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Well the City was an odd place yesterday.  I think I received two emails all day when I usually get a couple of hundred and the office felt like a graveyard.  A lot of people now very nervous for job security at a time when the markets were doing pretty well and recruitment buzzing.  Difficult to comprehend really.

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Put it however you like. They still don't have to play ball - even though probably it's not the best idea going forward.

 

The Leave voters and the campaign that drove them delivered the decision, it's entirely up to them to make sure the conclusion of it all is a good one. And for what it's worth, I hope they do.

sorry mate.. it is up to all of us in a democracy to accept the settled will of the british people and work together to make our country this best it can be..that is the grown up thing to do and its in the best interest of all of us..

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sorry mate.. it is up to all of us in a democracy to accept the settled will of the british people and work together to make our country this best it can be..that is the grown up thing to do and its in the best interest of all of us..

 

I agree. Doesn't mean that others do, or indeed that they should.

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sorry mate.. it is up to all of us in a democracy to accept the settled will of the british people and work together to make our country this best it can be..that is the grown up thing to do and its in the best interest of all of us..

Great idea, and how do you plan on implementing that, because in my experience working together usually entails 2 people working and 8 people telling them they're doing it wrong. 

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People voted against the EU because they didn't like the EU all this analysing is just excuse making.

It's a view and you can hold that one if you wish - but I prefer to go with the theory that there are always many factors that go into people's discussion making, many of them subconscious ones that a person wouldn't even know were a factor.

You also have to consider with your viewpoint - did people not like the EU in full knowledge of what it was about, or did they not like the EU as they perceived it from the information given to them?

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sorry mate.. it is up to all of us in a democracy to accept the settled will of the british people and work together to make our country this best it can be..that is the grown up thing to do and its in the best interest of all of us..

lol

Because you'd have been advocating we all work together to ensure the EU can be the best it can be in the event of a remain vote, I'm sure.

Was it UKIP or someone who never sent a single representative to an EU meeting? Something like that. A shining example of trying to make the best out of whatever situation you find yourself in.

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Great idea, and how do you plan on implementing that, because in my experience working together usually entails 2 people working and 8 people telling them they're doing it wrong. 

 

:dry:

 

I agree. Doesn't mean that others do, or indeed that they should.

But isn't this how every General Election has finished in recent times 36% the Tories got but they're running the country.

 

Did you expect the other 63% to say **** it you're on your own.

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But isn't this how every General Election has finished in recent times 36% the Tories got but they're running the country.

 

Did you expect the other 63% to say **** it you're on your own.

 

Yep, I do. I don't like it, but I've come to expect it. I think it's pretty obvious.

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Two things which I find interesting:

 

The often-cited YouGov study that is presented by the somewhat bitter losers of the vote is based on a poll with 1'600 participants. You seriously want to tell me that it's supposed to be representative of the whole voting community? lol

 

Then we have the votes done by income group/education level/gender:

How_Britain_voted.jpg

AB are senior management

C1 are academics

C2 are handimen

DE are working force without a specific education

 

I find the C1 and C2 results rather interesting. You can sense that the ones in the working force are the ones directly affected by the EU's imposed free movement of people treaty.

 

Also, you can assume that in the youngest age group (the 18- to 24-year olds), you'll find many a student with little to no understanding for the job market or with little to no working experience.

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Because you'd have been advocating we all work together to ensure the EU can be the best it can be in the event of a remain vote, I'm sure.

Was it UKIP or someone who never sent a single representative to an EU meeting? Something like that. A shining example of trying to make the best out of whatever situation you find yourself in.

sneer at the peoples decision all you want..   the fundamental mistake the politicians have made over the last 40 years is they forgot they are there to serve the people.   not for the people to serve the politicians and the system... I fear we are going to witness the biggest and longest whinge in history of whinging from remainers..

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sneer at the people decision all you want.. the fundamental mistake the politicians have made over the last 40 years is they forgot they are there to serve the people. not for the people to serve the politicians and the system... I fear we are going to witness the biggest and longest whinge in history of whinging from remainers..

It wasn't a vote of confidence in our politicians though was it johnny. It was a vote over whether or not you wanted to stay in the EU. There will still be politicians. If anything you have given the politicians you don't trust more power, not less.

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So the leader of our country said stay in Europe ...    the leader of the most powerful country in the world said stay in Europe ...   Gary Lineker who is a bright lad, said stay in Europe ...    and our very own Noddy (Nod. E), who as some of you may know is a big business man and has a brain that is bigger than a normal persons, said stay in Europe .....      yet we voted out !!!

 

What was it Abe Lincoln said about fooling some of the people some of the time ....   ??

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You can abuse me for saying this, but i know for a fact some of the leave votes are purely "fvck foreigners" votes.

 

Renders my considered vote either way useless.

 

I just dont see why this was left to people to decide.

 

Cameron agreed to a referendum to protect his chances of a majority at the last election as UKIP were perceived to be a threat, particularly to the Tory vote.

 

He has been hoist by his own petard.

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sneer at the people decision all you want..   the fundamental mistake the politicians have made over the last 40 years is they forgot they are there to serve the people.   not for the people to serve the politicians and the system... I fear we are going to witness the biggest and longest whinge in history of whinging from remainers..

 

So you take the general election last year to vote for politicians that will serve the people; Thursday wasn't a vote for whether you wanted Cameron or Johnson as PM or what sort of tory party you want, or even whether you want the socialist or blairite wing of the labour party leading them. It was a vote for whether you wanted to remain in the EU. Anyone voting on the pretext of the former wasted their voice.

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So we have a referendum, done democratically and we have an outcome. A clear outcome.

Now I read that people are marching in London, demanding that we have a 2nd referendum.

How does this work then? What would happen if there WAS a 2nd referendum? And if the remain campaign won? Would the 'leavers' demand a third? What are we talking about here...best of 5?

The public have voted, the decision is made. It might be the wrong one, or the right one. There might be winners and losers.

But for fooks sake...stop moaning, stop whingeing, stop campaigning and GET ON WITH IT.

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In think we're in a bit of a sticky situation. Infact, We're in the stickiest situation since sticky the stick insect got stuck on a sticky bun.

Always liked that one.

 

What happened to sticky ? ...    did he break free ? ...

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In a sea of uncertainly one thing that is for sure is that we'll never see another reaction to an election/plebiscite like this again. It's the made the Scottish Nationalists response in 2014 look dignified.

 

Not party political or a right/left issue either, I've had Conservative remainers on my timeline say we should take away all benefits and children off people on council estates who don't have a job, flood the coastal towns with migrants before we leave and one last night even said we should "blow up the NHS" (not sure how that works?) to punish the working class for their vote so they can't afford to be treated if they are ill. On the Labour side I've seen that old people should be killed off at 70, votes for student should count double as one is for the future and that people should be banned for going on holiday in Europe as a punishment.

 

Fair play to the guys on here who took it with grace, special mention for purpleronnie, he was probably the most passionate supporter on here of the EU.

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