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7 minutes ago, maddog said:

The problem with Kelechi is he doesn't have a brain.

 

Not just the lack of a football brain, his head is completely hollow. And without any sort of brain he can't ever be expected to be good at football. 

 

He's just massively brain-dead. You'll struggle to find a dumber premier league player. 

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I'd loan him out next season, give him some games and confidence and then we can either bring him back or cash in.

 

I'm sorry, I'm completely unimpressed with him. He'll occasionally show flashes of quality, then looks completely useless.

 

For the money we paid, I demand better.

 

Next season I'd like to see us sign in someone like Rondon to go alongside Vardy, Okazaki and a proper number 10.

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Kelechi is not to blame for his situation. He's a Striker who's being asked to play a specialist role and trying to learn on the Job.

The pass to Mahrez was poor but Mahrez should have passed it to Albrighton who was in the clear in the middle.

Then Morgan had a chance to step up and leave Morato offside. We had 3 players back and they couldn't stop Morato.

 

 

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Iheanacho needs loaning out, not playing sporadically & as a sub

 

He's nowhere near good enough to start for us, get him at a top Championship club or someone like Brighton/Huddesfield/Swansea

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25 minutes ago, maddog said:

The problem with Kelechi is he doesn't have a brain.

 

Not just the lack of a football brain, his head is completely hollow. And without any sort of brain he can't ever be expected to be good at football. 

 

He's just massively brain-dead. You'll struggle to find a dumber premier league player. 

Couple that with almost no effort...

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2 hours ago, SecretPro said:

He's a poaching number 9. If we continue to play him as a 10 we will be saying the same shit in three years time. 

Part of the problem is that Vardy is hard to play alongside, with Shinji about the only one who can. Ianacho, Slimani, Ulloa have all struggled with his style of play, as indeed does the England team. 

 

451 doesn't seem to work as Vardy is either isolated or misses out on crosses, as this is not his technique. 

 

Aprt from Shinji, Puel seems to have had the best from Vardy by playing 4231 with three wingers behind Vardy, when Mahrez or Gray are in the central position, but not Albrighton. It would be interesting to see Diabete there too. 

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Never ever been a no.10. Generally poor so far but what do we expect when we take someone renowned for his movement and finishing in the box and get him playing 40 yards from goal? That said, no excusing some of his passing or touches. Still a young lad and hopefully we stick with him, or someone else will have a very promising striker on their hands

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32 minutes ago, maddog said:

The problem with Kelechi is he doesn't have a brain.

 

Not just the lack of a football brain, his head is completely hollow. And without any sort of brain he can't ever be expected to be good at football. 

 

He's just massively brain-dead. You'll struggle to find a dumber premier league player. 

Schlupp.

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His movement is so poor, constantly moves into the same space another player is occupying, for their their first it was a terrible pass to Mahrez but he could have made amends by pulling in to the space on the right hand side of the pitch to give Riyad an option and create some space centrally but no he trotted behind a players cover shadow and into Vardy's space. The lad's talented but doesn't think on the pitch.

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3 hours ago, Phube said:

 

Quite, it wasn’t a good attacking pass... but it was a good pass to Mahrez, who had time on the ball and then lost it taking on 3 Chelsea players...

It wasn't a good pass at all. A good pass is one that Mahrez can run onto, not stop and wait for.

 

Having watched it back I think it's very harsh for people to say the goal's his fault but it did start with even more poor play from him.

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3 hours ago, lgfualol said:

We should just stop buying strikers for the okazaki role that are better as number 9s.

Absolutely ridiculous that we keep doing it. Slimani isn't a 10. Iheanacho isn't a 10. Mahrez isn't, Gray isn't, Diabate isn't.

 

Okazaki is the only one in the entire squad and he's the most unconventional number 10 I've ever seen.

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1 hour ago, Tuna said:

I'd loan him out next season, give him some games and confidence and then we can either bring him back or cash in.

 

I'm sorry, I'm completely unimpressed with him. He'll occasionally show flashes of quality, then looks completely useless.

 

For the money we paid, I demand better.

 

Next season I'd like to see us sign in someone like Rondon to go alongside Vardy, Okazaki and a proper number 10.

To keep shelling out millions on players only to farm them out on loan because they are ‘deemed‘ not good enough, really is not the answer.  A root and branch clear out in recruitment may be a more sensible option.  Far to many mistakes have been made and masked by some undeniable successes.  But does 4 Turkeys = 1 Diamond?

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When we have people on the wing who cannot beat the first man when crossing then what's the point of players like Iheanacho being in the box. Unfortunately our play means strikers have to come almost back to halfway to give options to our non-existent midfield. Strikers are doing two jobs and Iheanacho was definitely not playing like that at Man City where he got chances served on a plate. He has had to adapt but has barely played, not gonna happen immediately.

 

I think once we have a full pre-season with the squad and Puel gets some more players that he wants/needs (certainly a right back that knows what they're doing going forward), then I think people like Iheanacho will come good.

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10 hours ago, maddog said:

The problem with Kelechi is he doesn't have a brain.

 

Not just the lack of a football brain, his head is completely hollow. And without any sort of brain he can't ever be expected to be good at football. 

 

He's just massively brain-dead. You'll struggle to find a dumber premier league player. 

I remember looking at his thread on the Man City forum when we were buying him.  Sadly Man City fans all said the same thing.

 

Perhaps in a slightly nicer way though.

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8 hours ago, Dan LCFC said:

Absolutely ridiculous that we keep doing it. Slimani isn't a 10. Iheanacho isn't a 10. Mahrez isn't, Gray isn't, Diabate isn't.

 

Okazaki is the only one in the entire squad and he's the most unconventional number 10 I've ever seen.

Okazaki had never played as a second striker or no. 10 before coming here.  Very much a no.9 for Mainz,

 

Iheanacho described himself as a no 10 striker.

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8 hours ago, mozartfox said:

To keep shelling out millions on players only to farm them out on loan because they are ‘deemed‘ not good enough, really is not the answer.  A root and branch clear out in recruitment may be a more sensible option.  Far to many mistakes have been made and masked by some undeniable successes.  But does 4 Turkeys = 1 Diamond?

I agree and it's even more galling when you pay £1m and  £400,000 for two brilliant diamonds but tens of millions on turkey's!  The point has been well made that this is more about buying square pegs for round holes rather than really poor players. It's about poor knowledge in recruitment. None of us are experts but dozens of us on here have a reasonable knowledge of the difference between a number 9 and number 10! Vardy,  Slimani, Iheanacho, Ulloa and Musa are 9s,  how difficult can it be?

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He wasn't great but I don't think he was ridiculously terrible. We've knew from day one he is not a number 10, not in a team like ours anyway, despite what everyone was saying in the summer. He just not a natural at anything we want from someone in that position. Silva is our best bet in this role at the minute with the way Puel wants to play but he's too lightweight, we need to just stick him in there until the summer and see if he can grow into it.

 

For the first goal he slowed down the counter attack, after initially doing really well but he didn't lose the ball. Mahrez shouldn't be trying to take on 3 players, because it was a counter attack Iborra had raced out of his position to get in the box meaning we were open in the midfield.  

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He’s a number 9 and should be getting the last 10 - 15 minutes for Vardy in games we are winning to bleed him in as our future starter.

 

If we are playing anybody in a 10 role we only have one player who can nearly play here and that’s Shinji. Nobody else in our current squad fits this bill.

 

We need LB RB Dragovic,a number 10 and a winger this transfer window.

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35 minutes ago, RowlattsFox said:

For the first goal he slowed down the counter attack, after initially doing really well but he didn't lose the ball. Mahrez shouldn't be trying to take on 3 players, because it was a counter attack Iborra had raced out of his position to get in the box meaning we were open in the midfield.  

This...!   

 

Strange that it was Mahrez who actually lost the ball and yet Nacho gets the blame simply because it wasnt the greatest pass ever...?!?

The pass was poor, slowed our momentum and stopped our attack.....but it didnt lose us the ball and it didnt present them with a goal scoring opportunity...!

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12 hours ago, NewEnglandFox said:

For a so called poacher, it's amazing how often he is nowhere to be found in the box. It's like he'd rather move to where he can find 2 yards of space which is usually outside the box. Today while there was a point where Maguire was in the box and Iheanacho was not.

Something to do with playing him as a 10 maybe?

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3 hours ago, murphy said:

Okazaki had never played as a second striker or no. 10 before coming here.  Very much a no.9 for Mainz,

 

Iheanacho described himself as a no 10 striker.

Both true statements but having watched them both my own conclusion is that Okazaki is definitely better as a 10 and Iheanacho a 9.

 

3 hours ago, Swan Lesta said:

He’s a number 9 and should be getting the last 10 - 15 minutes for Vardy in games we are winning to bleed him in as our future starter.

 

If we are playing anybody in a 10 role we only have one player who can nearly play here and that’s Shinji. Nobody else in our current squad fits this bill.

 

We need LB RB Dragovic,a number 10 and a winger this transfer window.

I agree and think we need to stop trying to play him with Vardy. He isn't the solution to the Vardy / Slimani problem of not being able to play together, he's another one to throw into the equation.

 

I see it now as Okazaki, then one of Vardy, Slimani or Iheanacho. Obviously Slimani isn't here so it's Vardy or Iheanacho, and it's very hard to justify dropping Vardy so Iheanacho then misses out. It's very similar to the Slimani situation. Newcastle is ideal for Slimani really but he just hasn't been fit.

 

Iheanacho hasn't yet really shown any use as a starter or a sub, bar the West Brom game last week where I'll say he was really impressive.

 

If we sell Slimani I'd keep Iheanacho but as back-up and someone we give a bit of time to, but not as the main starter.

 

And for god sake PLEASE sign another player who can play where Okazaki does.

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With the way Puel wants to play Okazaki isn't a number 10 either. We need someone who can receive the ball to feet, control it effectively on the turn and also floats around picking up different positions in between the lines. But he also needs to work hard and get in the box.

 

I think Diabate deserves a shot in the position.

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54 minutes ago, Dan LCFC said:

And for god sake PLEASE sign another player who can play where Okazaki does.

Should have been done in the Summer. We need one more than ever with Mahrez going. Okazaki, though our best match with Vardy, can't get the assists/goals needed. 

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