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Time added on - it's becoming a joke

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26 minutes ago, TheUltimateWinner said:

absolute joke time keeping today 

 

2 mins first half and 3 mins second?! Give over 

 

First halfnwss laughable, we had a lengthy injury break and also the cutfifle with the disallowed goal.

There was the Clucas "injury" in the first minute as well. Took at least 2 minutes to restart from that.

 

First half should have been 4 mins at the absolute minimum.

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First half was nearer five mins wasted with the two injuries and disallowed goal and with their time wasting and substitutions should have been minimum four mins at the end. 

 

Also why blow up both halves when a team (albeit us) has the ball near their box going forward. Referee could easily play another 15 seconds or so; as as said their was definitely longer than a total of five minutes lost in that game. 

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7 minutes ago, BoyJones said:

First half was nearer five mins wasted with the two injuries and disallowed goal and with their time wasting and substitutions should have been minimum four mins at the end. 

 

Also why blow up both halves when a team (albeit us) has the ball near their box going forward. Referee could easily play another 15 seconds or so; as as said their was definitely longer than a total of five minutes lost in that game. 

You're right about the lack of time added on. Having said that, whether a team is attacking or not makes no difference, if time is genuinely up, the ref should blow up.

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4 minutes ago, martyn said:

You're right about the lack of time added on. Having said that, whether a team is attacking or not makes no difference, if time is genuinely up, the ref should blow up.

I understand the point about when times up, it's up - but as it's the referees subjective decision and they always tend to underestimate, feel it's common sense in a match with so much time lost to take a sensible view - even if we are defending! 

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2 minutes in the first half was incredible. I went to the toilet at 32 minutes, came back at 35 and they were carrying Fer off plus Clucas and Naughton were down for nearly 2 minutes in the first 5.

 

How do they work this out?

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On 27/01/2018 at 14:47, Webbo said:

If we were losing 5-1 would we really want extra time?

It’s not a case of wanting extra time .... but the play to the actual game time and not some magical, mystical ‘Fergie’ time ... win or lose, it still is just a game and the rules of the game should be observed!?

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It has just become arbitrary and probably influenced by Tv, don't want too much injury time to spoil the insightful half time chat and adverts.

 

Football rules are full of guidelines rather than hard and fast rules. Such as a booking for persistent fouling, "deliberate" handball/unnatural position. Timekeeping is another one.

 

A simple definition such as every stoppage has 10/20/30* seconds to restart, if not restarted in that time the clock stops (and it stops on the stadium clock where possible) this shouldn't be too difficult. If the restart is not done in that time then it can be a booking.

 

*exact timing to be determined

 

 

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5 hours ago, Captain... said:

It has just become arbitrary and probably influenced by Tv, don't want too much injury time to spoil the insightful half time chat and adverts.

 

Football rules are full of guidelines rather than hard and fast rules. Such as a booking for persistent fouling, "deliberate" handball/unnatural position. Timekeeping is another one.

 

A simple definition such as every stoppage has 10/20/30* seconds to restart, if not restarted in that time the clock stops (and it stops on the stadium clock where possible) this shouldn't be too difficult. If the restart is not done in that time then it can be a booking.

 

*exact timing to be determined

 

 

Whether you play 1 min or 10 min injury time they still get a 15 min break so how does that affect insightful chat and adverts? 

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4 hours ago, Otis said:

The same as the Goalkeeper 6 second rule, this is never ahered to. Goalies regularly hold onto the ball for 10-15 seconds. The amount of time wasted is huge, are fans being short changed.

Sadly that is a perfect example of how many of these “innovations” have fallen away because refs won’t follow simple instructions. It was a clear rule, 6 seconds, and never been properly applied. 

 

Same with rules around dissent, grappling in the box at a corner, fouls in the area, timewasting. So many things they can improve on and simply but time and again they don’t.

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  • 4 weeks later...

Schmeichel was counting on his fingers the amount of time their keeper held the ball and all the officials didn’t care

 

The annoying thing is as soon as they’re booked they’d stop. Seems there’s no ref who has the Ball’s to call teams out on it. It isn’t even ballsy to card someone though, it’s unsporting and deserves punishing.

 

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I'd actually be interested to know what guidelines are given for refs/4th officials as regards time added on. I always thought it was 30 seconds per sub to be added on plus any other stoppages. So if all subs are used that's a minimum of 3 minutes. So realistically it should be minimum 4 minutes per game at the end as every game will have some sort of stoppage on top of subs. Easy to argue when you are losing like we were today and we would have all been shouting for 6/7 minutes to be added on but if it was the other way round we'd have been wanting the 4th official to put up 2 minutes. Just like with everything else in football, you get some things go for you and some things go against you. Added on time certainly went for us today

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We'll never be satisfied until we have an official timekeeper like Rugby League. We should take this element away from the referee, dispense with the 4th official and have someone who doesn't nothing but keep a stop watch on proceedings and instruct the ref when to blow the final whistle. At least by adopting that system supporters will not get short changed!!

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