Suzie the Fox Posted 31 January 2018 Share Posted 31 January 2018 1 minute ago, the fox said: the offer came in late, it's not his fault. i'm sure if the owners promised to let him go in the summer for 65 million like they promised him to let him go for 50 mil............. oh wait, they won't. it's a buessnis, you can't ask for him to be loyel when all you think about is buessnes and profit Im pretty sure the owners said they would let him go for a reasonable offer. I doubt very much they set a specific £xxvalue on him. (Only tabloids quoting that price.) Inthe summer the price was £50m but as you know he has played consistently well since that point, and with the market as it is, his value will be increased. Thus the reasonable fee that was promised will have risen. Yes it is a business and for that reason he should realise we want max ££ for him. Especially as its the last day of the window and we have little to no hope of replacing him for any amount. Regarding your earlier comment that Vardy would leave if Man City came asking, I dont believe that and the only evidence we have is that he has already turned down 1 of the big 6. So would suggest that loyalty has not completely gone from the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Prussian Posted 31 January 2018 Share Posted 31 January 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, the fox said: but the man city offer was late, he put a transfer request in the summer and i don't think he took it off. we will miss his creativity, he was doing the work of 2 players, i don't think we will keep the 4-4-2, i think the team will try to use a 4-3-3 or something like that We never play in a classic 4-4-2 - Okazaki usually retreats as a CF, so it's a 4-4-1-1. Sorry for being pedantic. And Mahrez doesn't "do the work of 2 players", has never done so. He's a creative player with flair who can make two opposing players sweat at once. Or even three (always remember fondly how he made three Villa defenders bow down in front of him, ha). You talk as if Mahrez has already left - my feeling is that he'll (have to) stay until the summer. Edited 31 January 2018 by MC Prussian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the fox Posted 31 January 2018 Share Posted 31 January 2018 1 minute ago, Cardiff_Fox said: Still awaiting proof that the club made any quote of that regard. Press articles suggested £50 million. I am definitely having Greggs sandwiches for lunch today - symbolic. there is non, just like there is no proof of his bad attitude (on the pitch) or him playing bad last season on purpose. it depends on which side you believe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dylanlegend Posted 31 January 2018 Share Posted 31 January 2018 11 minutes ago, the fox said: of course! i'm in it for the long run, if he leaves today, you will find me tomorrow in the general discussion thread arguing about something Fair enough, I was just interested to know. Nice to know people from all over the world are falling in love with our club 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mancunianfox Posted 31 January 2018 Share Posted 31 January 2018 Just now, Callabinho said: Completely different players, so is unfair to compare. But Sane is probably better suited to their style thanks to his outrageous pace. Fair point. Just annoys me that according to some one of our greatest ever players is only good enough to warm the bench at another club. A bit small time. To be honest I don't think he will go there but if he did he would be a great signing for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sylofox Posted 31 January 2018 Share Posted 31 January 2018 With slim gone to Newcastle if Mahrez leave's as well how many members will FT lose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeGuy Posted 31 January 2018 Share Posted 31 January 2018 14 minutes ago, ARTY_FOX said: It's the timing of the transfer request that's pissed people off I think. He could have done it at the beginning of the window and not waited until a day before it shuts. Diabate isn't a direct replacement either. There were no bids at that time. Nothing he can about that. Blame Guardiola or the twt who ruined Sane's day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the fox Posted 31 January 2018 Share Posted 31 January 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Suzie the Fox said: Im pretty sure the owners said they would let him go for a reasonable offer. I doubt very much they set a specific £xxvalue on him. (Only tabloids quoting that price.) Inthe summer the price was £50m but as you know he has played consistently well since that point, and with the market as it is, his value will be increased. Thus the reasonable fee that was promised will have risen. Yes it is a business and for that reason he should realise we want max ££ for him. Especially as its the last day of the window and we have little to no hope of replacing him for any amount. Regarding your earlier comment that Vardy would leave if Man City came asking, I dont believe that and the only evidence we have is that he has already turned down 1 of the big 6. So would suggest that loyalty has not completely gone from the game. and they are the ones who decide which offer is reasonable, 80 million could be unreasonable for them, let's not act like riyad is the devil here. the owners don't care if he is happy or not, they won't cater to him but they expect him to be loyel , what a joke. vardy turned down arsenal not man city, and i'm sure he did all the arsenal talk to get a better contract. it was smart and cunning, he knows that the owners will lowball him. he ate them for lunch before they can have him for dinner Edited 31 January 2018 by the fox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chocolate Teapot Posted 31 January 2018 Share Posted 31 January 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, sylofox said: With slim gone to Newcastle if Mahrez leave's as well how many members will FT lose? @Eagle10 has agreed a loan deal to toonforum.co.uk with a view to a permanent in the summer, the admin's on here have paid an administration charge to remove him immediately. Edited 31 January 2018 by Abrasive fox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the fox Posted 31 January 2018 Share Posted 31 January 2018 3 minutes ago, sylofox said: With slim gone to Newcastle if Mahrez leave's as well how many members will FT lose? about 3, i'm still gonna be here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HankMarvin Posted 31 January 2018 Share Posted 31 January 2018 7 minutes ago, Suzie the Fox said: Im pretty sure the owners said they would let him go for a reasonable offer. I doubt very much they set a specific £xxvalue on him. (Only tabloids quoting that price.) Inthe summer the price was £50m but as you know he has played consistently well since that point, and with the market as it is, his value will be increased. Thus the reasonable fee that was promised will have risen. Yes it is a business and for that reason he should realise we want max ££ for him. Especially as its the last day of the window and we have little to no hope of replacing him for any amount. Regarding your earlier comment that Vardy would leave if Man City came asking, I dont believe that and the only evidence we have is that he has already turned down 1 of the big 6. So would suggest that loyalty has not completely gone from the game. Re vardy turning down previous offer. that was slightly different because the club matched the terms being offered, not sure that would be the case at 31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumbleFox Posted 31 January 2018 Share Posted 31 January 2018 As long as we invest the money wisely it might be, long term, a blessing in disguise. If we could get somewhere close to £80 we really could strengthen the squad. When Spurs sold Bale they went to the next level. I don;t want him to leave but I also don;t begrudge him a move. He has played amazingly well this season and his attitude seems to have been spot on. He hasn't re-agitated for a move but anyone would be unsettled by an offer from Man City, only a couple of teams in the world can compete with their current pulling power. To make the offer like they have is really fvcking annoying but I blame them more than Riyad. I think, on paper, we have the best squad I can ever remember and I genuinely think we are healthier than we have ever been. With an £80 injection (with the RIGHT players of course) we really could set ourselves up to become a properly, established top 7 team and when can we have said that recently? Of course no team wants to lose their most skilful player but if he wants to go then so be it, I cannot really blame him. Footballers careers are short and often they have to seize the moment, and the swell of momentum to move at the right time else they risk missing out and forever thinking "what if". No one was spaffing abuse on Maguire when he left Hull after relegation or Gray when we took him from Birmingham. It is the natural order of things and we can't expect to sign any player we want from "lesser" teams then cry like mungerongoroids when a bigger team comes in for one of ours. It lacks class. If he goes, I will be sad but we will move on and if we re-invest wisely (and that is the big IF here) we can move up another level. X 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4everfox Posted 31 January 2018 Share Posted 31 January 2018 We should tell Man City that we want £80 million plus Patrick Roberts, who also plays on the right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livid Posted 31 January 2018 Share Posted 31 January 2018 Things were just falling nicely into place. I feel frustrated. I remember when Collymore and Heskey briefly linked up together and Heskey pretty much immediately set off for Liverpool. I know the club is in a better position now but it’s just that feeling that whilst we have won ‘their’ league and we play in the same league as them, we are still in a league apart. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the fox Posted 31 January 2018 Share Posted 31 January 2018 8 minutes ago, MC Prussian said: We never play in a classic 4-4-2 - Okazaki usually retreats as a CF, so it's a 4-4-1-1. Sorry for being pedantic. And Mahrez doesn't "do the work of 2 players", has never done so. He's a creative player with flair who can make two opposing players sweat at once. Or even three (always remember fondly how he made three Villa defenders bow down in front of him, ha). You talk as if Mahrez has already left - my feeling is that he'll (have to) stay until the summer. he does though. he is our second best scorer and our best creator playing as a RM in a 4-4-2. think silva will slot in as a 3rd mid to try and create, with a front 3 of gray/marc, vardy and diabate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sylofox Posted 31 January 2018 Share Posted 31 January 2018 3 minutes ago, the fox said: about 3, i'm still gonna be here The deals not as good as it first appeared Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerrytaggart Posted 31 January 2018 Share Posted 31 January 2018 Sell him to Roma for 32M and tell Man City to go **** themselves. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the fox Posted 31 January 2018 Share Posted 31 January 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, sylofox said: The deals not as good as it first appeared oh come on, sylo. you hurt muh feelings Edited 31 January 2018 by the fox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain... Posted 31 January 2018 Share Posted 31 January 2018 What actually is a transfer request? My understanding is the main impact of handing in a transfer request is that by doing so you forfeit a loyalty payment that is paid to players when they are sold, this is a standard contract clause. By handing in a transfer request you are saying you want to leave rather than the club want to sell, so the club will save money and the player will lose out on money and the club can accept a lower bid. It doesn't mean the club are obliged to sell him, it doesn't mean he doesn't want to play/won't play for his current club. It is a statement of consent, rather than intent, to help a bid go through. If you are sold without giving consent, then you get a loyalty payment because the club has sold you against your wishes, in theory, in practice most footballers don't hand in a transfer request because they get more money and don't get called a snake by their fans. We didn't sell Drinky because he handed in a transfer request, we sold him because they met our valuation and we had a replacement lined up and he wanted to go, the transfer request just made it a better deal for us. The difference with Mahrez is there is no replacement lined up, in many ways he is irreplaceable and we are in a good position to kick on. We really shouldn't be looking at handing in a transfer request as a betrayal, it is a benefit to us, and if more players did it rather than try and squeeze as much money as possible out the deal it may not have the same stigma. But also, please don't go Mahrez! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Nacho Posted 31 January 2018 Share Posted 31 January 2018 (edited) If he was to go I would want another player coming the other way. Edited 31 January 2018 by Ian Nacho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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filbertway Posted 31 January 2018 Share Posted 31 January 2018 1 minute ago, TheUltimateWinner said: The longer Man City drag it out, the less likely we are to sell to them. I'm assuming we've learned our lesson... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishfoxkev Posted 31 January 2018 Share Posted 31 January 2018 See Sky have Michelle Owen as their reporter at Leicester...easier on the eyes than the normal Rob Dorsett who is at Stoke...Also she is outside the Stadium rather than at the training ground....probably cos there’s no new incomings expected.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antoine Posted 31 January 2018 Share Posted 31 January 2018 Maybe Man City doing it just on purpose to weaken his mind and ability to perform because they know him he is sensitive to an eventual transfer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chocolate Teapot Posted 31 January 2018 Share Posted 31 January 2018 'Leicester are denying me my opportunity and they're holding back my career, I'll never play for them again' Incoming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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