Popular Post OhYesNdidi Posted 23 July 2018 Popular Post Share Posted 23 July 2018 14 minutes ago, ian_marshall said: I do like Maguire, his composure on the ball and under pressure is probably up there with the very best defenders in the game currently. However, as a defender I'm not overly convinced that he's as good as all of the hype suggests. For me his positional awareness and concentration levels aren't that great. He reminds me a lot of when Michael Keane was on loan to us, he looks the business but the stats don't backup the illusion that the defence has actually improved. Call me old fashioned but I like defenders to defend first and foremost. I am an advocate of having player's at the back who are comfortable on the ball and don't panic under pressure, hence why I'd rather not see Wes in the first team, but conversely in my eyes they also don't have to be Franz Beckenbauer so long as they are capable of offloading a simple 5 yard ball into the midfield. If we get a decent offer for Maguire and it works for all parties I wouldn't be too concerned if he chose to leave so long as it allows us to find a replacement and maybe strengthen elsewhere. For me there are plenty of realistic alternatives that we could look to acquire so I don't think it would be the end of the world. Player's like Tarkowski, possibly Keane, Mawson, and Gibson to name just a few would all fill the gap left behind by Maguire should he go. Most Everton fans think Keane is the worst CB They've had for some time. Looks like he's been found out now as he's not playing on his 18 yard box anymore like he was for Burnley - same applies when buying Tarowski. Gibson has looked very average for Boro last season and is about 4 inches smaller than Harry and Mawson would cost £30m and he is not worth that at all. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Quick Brown Fox Posted 23 July 2018 Share Posted 23 July 2018 If he was to go to Utd I'd be asking for Smalling (and possibly a youngster for the development squad) to be coming the other way as part of the deal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonnieTodger Posted 23 July 2018 Share Posted 23 July 2018 Imagine if Maguire went for more than Mahrez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Maul Posted 23 July 2018 Share Posted 23 July 2018 Don't sell at any price. It's about more than just how good we are at the back- it's about not being perceived as a selling club and standing our ground. Make it clear to Harry and Man United that he won't be going this summer and we won't be entertaining offers. Maybe next summer, if there's still interest there, but we won't be selling 2 key players against our will in one window. I'm confident that's how the owners will be approaching it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard Posted 23 July 2018 Share Posted 23 July 2018 3 hours ago, Ric Flair said: It's the worry of Vardy wanting out if we get tempted to take the cash that bothers me. Vardy will be going nowhere, he's too old to to command a transfer fee we will accept. A little over two weeks left in this window and Vardy will be 32 by the time the January window comes around. That ship has just about left port for Vardy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barwell Fox Posted 23 July 2018 Share Posted 23 July 2018 3 minutes ago, Gerard said: Vardy will be going nowhere, he's too old to to command a transfer fee we will accept. A little over two weeks left in this window and Vardy will be 32 by the time the January window comes around. That ship has just about left port for Vardy. Teams in China and USA may disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard Posted 23 July 2018 Share Posted 23 July 2018 2 hours ago, OhYesNdidi said: Most Everton fans think Keane is the worst CB They've had for some time. Looks like he's been found out now as he's not playing on his 18 yard box anymore like he was for Burnley - same applies when buying Tarowski. Gibson has looked very average for Boro last season and is about 4 inches smaller than Harry and Mawson would cost £30m and he is not worth that at all. I agree, Morgan and Huth looked like worldies for us in our title winning season with two narrow full backs and a hard working midfield being close to them when we were defending. No space in our defence and they invariably dealt with any cross that came in the box. Be wary of overrating Burnley centre halves as they play in ideal conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard Posted 23 July 2018 Share Posted 23 July 2018 1 minute ago, Barwell Fox said: Teams in China and USA may disagree. Serious question but when was the last time a PL club sold a player to a Chinese or American club that they would have preferred to keep? Those countries are for players in semi retirement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKCJ Posted 23 July 2018 Share Posted 23 July 2018 23 minutes ago, Gerard said: Serious question but when was the last time a PL club sold a player to a Chinese or American club that they would have preferred to keep? Those countries are for players in semi retirement. Probably Oscar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard Posted 23 July 2018 Share Posted 23 July 2018 1 minute ago, AKCJ said: Probably Oscar. He pretty much unperformed and they got £60m IIRC? It was a sell all day long for Chelsea. It would be like us getting a £40m bid for Slimani. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKCJ Posted 23 July 2018 Share Posted 23 July 2018 2 minutes ago, Gerard said: He pretty much unperformed and they got £60m IIRC? It was a sell all day long for Chelsea. It would be like us getting a £40m bid for Slimani. I don't think a PL club has ever sold a player they'd prefer to keep in that case. Oscar definitely wasn't under performing, even if £60m was an offer they couldn't refuse they'd have preferred to keep him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhYesNdidi Posted 23 July 2018 Share Posted 23 July 2018 Stinks of man united trying to un settle Maguire before the opening day of the season - doubt Maguire will be starting that game anyway. They did the same to Jose Fontè before the 16/17 season before Southampton opened the season away at old Trafford. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheffield_fox Posted 23 July 2018 Share Posted 23 July 2018 3 minutes ago, OhYesNdidi said: Stinks of man united trying to un settle Maguire before the opening day of the season - doubt Maguire will be starting that game anyway. They did the same to Jose Fontè before the 16/17 season before Southampton opened the season away at old Trafford. Absolutely spot on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnderbyFox Posted 23 July 2018 Share Posted 23 July 2018 Quote Why should Everton swoop? The Toffees experienced inconsistency at the back last season, with Michael Keane struggling to maintain good form, while Ashley Williams fell out of favour. If Maguire was to join the Merseyside outfit then he would be an automatic starter, probably alongside Keane. Phil Jagielka remains the captain of the club, so even though his game time could end up limited, he remains an important figure. Mason Holgate is still perfecting his craft, so it is likely that Williams would be the defender sacrificed to make way for Keane. Do they have a chance? Everton have proven before that they are prepared to spend big in the transfer market, but they could struggle to compete with United. Financially, the Red Devils trump them, but the lure of moving to Old Trafford is likely to be far greater than a switch to Everton. Maguire could continue his upward trajectory by playing for a club competing in the Champions League and challenging for the title. The former Hull City centre-back proved on the global stage that he is ready to take that next step. With that in mind, Everton may have plenty of work to do to convince him to move to Merseyside. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 23 July 2018 Share Posted 23 July 2018 If we sell him, we are in danger of being viewed as a Southampton type club! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 23 July 2018 Share Posted 23 July 2018 24 minutes ago, EnderbyFox said: That's so deluded it's actually adorable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 23 July 2018 Share Posted 23 July 2018 Wow - The toffees are almost as deluded as some of our fans !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovejoy Posted 23 July 2018 Share Posted 23 July 2018 Whichever Everton spastic wrote that is right up there with Steve Bull claiming Wolves should sign Vardy for £30m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Fishwick Posted 23 July 2018 Share Posted 23 July 2018 20 hours ago, TK95 said: Dunno why I just have a feeling he loves us and won't go. Maybe I'm biased but it just feels different to Riyad or Kante who actively gave the impression they wanted to move on sorry mate but its one of the biggest clubs in the world, you don't really say no when they come knocking and he's had a taste of the big time this summer would agree with you if it was a sideways looking move like Everton 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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norwichfox Posted 23 July 2018 Share Posted 23 July 2018 Just reading through some of this thread puts me in mind of Moaninho unsettling Drinkwater by hinting that he may want him just before we played them....hmmmmm....what's our next premier league game? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 23 July 2018 Share Posted 23 July 2018 1 hour ago, coolhandfox said: If we sell him, we are in danger of being viewed as a Southampton type club! By everyone outside Leicester, we are viewed as a Southampton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARM1968 Posted 23 July 2018 Share Posted 23 July 2018 53 minutes ago, Beliall said: Are Man City in for him then? Man Utd are on a downward trajectory. Mardy Moaniho will be gone this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 23 July 2018 Share Posted 23 July 2018 1 minute ago, Babylon said: By everyone outside Leicester, we are viewed as a Southampton. Yes, your probably right.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fightforever Posted 23 July 2018 Share Posted 23 July 2018 11 minutes ago, Babylon said: By everyone outside Leicester, we are viewed as a Southampton. by chelsea anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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