Leeds Fox Posted 17 May 2018 Share Posted 17 May 2018 On 16/05/2018 at 22:25, sylofox said: Valuations are a joke. You may value your house at 200k. But if 20 view it and all offer 175k what's it's worth. Everyone selling over values and people not wanting to sell over over values. Any true value is what a buyer is willing to pay. If it’s worth £200k to the owner it’s irrelevant what it’s worth to the bidders. You don’t sell it and keep the house that you value at £200k. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sylofox Posted 17 May 2018 Share Posted 17 May 2018 33 minutes ago, Leeds Fox said: If it’s worth £200k to the owner it’s irrelevant what it’s worth to the bidders. You don’t sell it and keep the house that you value at £200k. FFS who said you sell it it's a hypothetical example. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Fox Posted 17 May 2018 Share Posted 17 May 2018 1 minute ago, sylofox said: FFS who said you sell it it's a hypothetical example. Well I was quite aware it’s a hypothetical situation as Harry Maguire isn’t a house worth £200k. I didn’t say it was anyone’s intention to sell. Back onto the hypothetical situation you brought up. I have a house worth £200k that I’m not actively looking to sell, 20 people offer me £175k for it. I’m not going to sell it am I? Someone offers me £250k for it and I might consider my options. It seems simple to me. Value is a matter of opinion with something such as a footballer. A buyer is unlikely to want to pay the amount that the owner values their player. If he’s worth £70m (for arguments sake) to LCFC and Man City, Liverpool and Spurs offered us £50m, it doesn’t mean he’s worth £50m, that’s just what they want to pay. Nor does it mean he’s worth £75m, that’s only what he’s worth to us. Seen as he’s contracted to us, it’s irrelevant what clubs bid for him unless it matches our valuation. That was my original point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch Posted 18 May 2018 Share Posted 18 May 2018 I'e always thought that players have two values. They have their transfer value and they have their value to their team. Maguire for example would be worth more to is than what he would to UTD as he could make that differance between mid table and Europe. He would be worth even more to wolves, say as he could mean the differance between finishing next year safe from relegation and going down. A players true value is somewhere inbetween what that player is worth to the two teams. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WigstonWanderer Posted 18 May 2018 Share Posted 18 May 2018 Good players that we have on contract are generally worth more to us than to a top 6 team because it is much easier for such clubs to sign top players than it is for us to convince a replacement to sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTY_FOX Posted 18 May 2018 Share Posted 18 May 2018 9 hours ago, Leeds Fox said: Well I was quite aware it’s a hypothetical situation as Harry Maguire isn’t a house worth £200k. I didn’t say it was anyone’s intention to sell. Back onto the hypothetical situation you brought up. I have a house worth £200k that I’m not actively looking to sell, 20 people offer me £175k for it. I’m not going to sell it am I? Someone offers me £250k for it and I might consider my options. It seems simple to me. Value is a matter of opinion with something such as a footballer. A buyer is unlikely to want to pay the amount that the owner values their player. If he’s worth £70m (for arguments sake) to LCFC and Man City, Liverpool and Spurs offered us £50m, it doesn’t mean he’s worth £50m, that’s just what they want to pay. Nor does it mean he’s worth £75m, that’s only what he’s worth to us. Seen as he’s contracted to us, it’s irrelevant what clubs bid for him unless it matches our valuation. That was my original point. If he was a house though what type of house would he be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozartfox Posted 18 May 2018 Share Posted 18 May 2018 11 minutes ago, ARTY_FOX said: If he was a house though what type of house would he be? Well Wes would be a 'detached' - being quite often detached from the rest of the defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted 18 May 2018 Share Posted 18 May 2018 On 16/05/2018 at 12:26, Jon the Hat said: We should be building around Maguire, Ndidi, Vardy and Ihenacho, sod selling any of them. Quite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTY_FOX Posted 18 May 2018 Share Posted 18 May 2018 1 hour ago, mozartfox said: Well Wes would be a 'detached' - being quite often detached from the rest of the defence. If say he's more a thatched cottage. Old and tends to keep having problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxy-Lady Posted 18 May 2018 Share Posted 18 May 2018 11 hours ago, Leeds Fox said: Well I was quite aware it’s a hypothetical situation as Harry Maguire isn’t a house worth £200k. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 18 May 2018 Share Posted 18 May 2018 As we have shown with Mahrez, we only sell when our valuation has been met. If he has a good world cup, I can't see why he would be worth any less than Van Dijk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamlcfcbevo85 Posted 18 May 2018 Share Posted 18 May 2018 (edited) 39 minutes ago, coolhandfox said: As we have shown with Mahrez, we only sell when our valuation has been met. If he has a good world cup, I can't see why he would be worth any less than Van Dijk. Hes worth much more than van dijk. I'd rather have a unfit harry maguire to a fully fit van dijk he's just a average CB nothing special Edited 18 May 2018 by adamlcfcbevo85 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 18 May 2018 Share Posted 18 May 2018 26 minutes ago, adamlcfcbevo85 said: Hes worth much more than van dijk. I'd rather have a unfit harry maguire to a fully fit van dijk he's just a average CB nothing special Blimey - how long have you got Adam ........ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuna Posted 18 May 2018 Share Posted 18 May 2018 Don't see why he'd want to leave unless offered regular first team football elsewhere. He's become a regular In the England team with us and will start 38 games each season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxpleasure Posted 18 May 2018 Share Posted 18 May 2018 7 hours ago, ARTY_FOX said: If he was a house though what type of house would he be? Brick shithouse 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPH Posted 18 May 2018 Share Posted 18 May 2018 My concern is that any club interested in him will of instructed any players that are in the England world cup squad to 'remind' Harry of how great it is at their club and we won't be around to protect his delicate ears... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 18 May 2018 Share Posted 18 May 2018 1 hour ago, Tuna said: Don't see why he'd want to leave unless offered regular first team football elsewhere. He's become a regular In the England team with us and will start 38 games each season. Money, Trophies, Champions League football.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 18 May 2018 Share Posted 18 May 2018 1 hour ago, adamlcfcbevo85 said: Hes worth much more than van dijk. I'd rather have a unfit harry maguire to a fully fit van dijk he's just a average CB nothing special Good chance he's going to have a Champions League winners medal in his top pocket. The bloke has imerged into a leader at Liverpool and has changed the look of their back four You think Harry is worth more than 75m? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamlcfcbevo85 Posted 18 May 2018 Share Posted 18 May 2018 1 hour ago, st albans fox said: Blimey - how long have you got Adam ........ Ask any Liverpool fan you know who they would rather have van dijk or maguire I bet you most or if not all say maguire. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 18 May 2018 Share Posted 18 May 2018 1 minute ago, adamlcfcbevo85 said: Ask any Liverpool fan you know who they would rather have van dijk or maguire I bet you most or if not all say maguire. Why don't you go here and ask them https://forums.liverpoolfc.com/index.php let me know how you get on..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumbleFox Posted 18 May 2018 Share Posted 18 May 2018 No way is the big, beautiful bastard leaving. Close thread. X 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEnglandFox Posted 18 May 2018 Share Posted 18 May 2018 9 hours ago, ARTY_FOX said: If he was a house though what type of house would he be? Too easy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RODNEY FERNIO Posted 18 May 2018 Share Posted 18 May 2018 Seems like a happy Harry to me .... if we've got an unhappy Harry we've got a problem .. the team going forward is going to be built around him and I'm sure he's been told this in no uncertain terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTY_FOX Posted 18 May 2018 Share Posted 18 May 2018 1 hour ago, coolhandfox said: Money, Trophies, Champions League football.... Worked wonderfully for Drinkwater. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTY_FOX Posted 18 May 2018 Share Posted 18 May 2018 1 hour ago, coolhandfox said: Good chance he's going to have a Champions League winners medal in his top pocket. The bloke has imerged into a leader at Liverpool and has changed the look of their back four You think Harry is worth more than 75m? Well he's better than Van dijk soooo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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