Super_horns Posted 5 October 2018 Share Posted 5 October 2018 Brighton know how to get a result at home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacamion Posted 5 October 2018 Share Posted 5 October 2018 I know it's awfully tempting to hypothesise whether you would rather sign G Murray or M Arnautovic. I confirm, I would rather set myself on fire. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishfoxkev Posted 5 October 2018 Share Posted 5 October 2018 Sky Sports giving lot of airtime to a report in tomorrow’s Mirror that Mourinho will ba sacked regardless of United’s result this weekend ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxfanazer Posted 5 October 2018 Share Posted 5 October 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, fuchsntf said: A bit like 14 other teams,in the PL...Wolves n Foxes alike.. Can we create some kind of swear jar where everytime somebody mentions wolves in this thread they have to donate a pound to FoxesTalk or some charity Edited 5 October 2018 by foxfanazer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKCJ Posted 5 October 2018 Share Posted 5 October 2018 (edited) So sick of Gary Neville making out that Man United are somehow above other clubs for having some dreamt up ideology of not sacking managers. They, like every other club in the world, will sack their manager when it's not going well enough. Man United had the luxury of having comfortably the greatest manager ever to walk the Earth lead their club during a 25 odd year period where they were the regularly the best team in the Country/Europe. Such title cannot be bestowed on the three that have followed him. Man United are in a considerable mess and Mourinho is clearly the problem. Edited 5 October 2018 by AKCJ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKCJ Posted 5 October 2018 Share Posted 5 October 2018 12 minutes ago, foxfanazer said: Can we create some kind of swear jar where everytime somebody mentions wolves in this thread they have to donate a pound to FoxesTalk or some charity You just mentioned the W word to be fair. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKCJ Posted 5 October 2018 Share Posted 5 October 2018 52 minutes ago, Vacamion said: I know it's awfully tempting to hypothesise whether you would rather sign G Murray or M Arnautovic. I confirm, I would rather set myself on fire. I'd have Arnautovic here every day of the week. Proper arsehole and you don't know what sort of a player is going to turn up, but on his day (which is becoming more and more common) he is next to unplayable. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxfanazer Posted 5 October 2018 Share Posted 5 October 2018 17 minutes ago, AKCJ said: You just mentioned the W word to be fair. Ah dammit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxfanazer Posted 5 October 2018 Share Posted 5 October 2018 17 minutes ago, AKCJ said: I'd have Arnautovic here every day of the week. Proper arsehole and you don't know what sort of a player is going to turn up, but on his day (which is becoming more and more common) he is next to unplayable. Yeah quality player, don’t understand why anybody would turn a player with his ability down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reg Vardy Posted 5 October 2018 Share Posted 5 October 2018 Vardy and Arnautovic.....be awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weller54 Posted 5 October 2018 Share Posted 5 October 2018 30 minutes ago, foxfanazer said: Can we create some kind of swear jar where everytime somebody mentions wolves in this thread they have to donate a pound to FoxesTalk or some charity Dances with Wolves is my favourite film. Oops... Don't mention the W word!.. I mentioned it once but I think I got away with it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Posted 5 October 2018 Share Posted 5 October 2018 38 minutes ago, AKCJ said: So sick of Gary Neville making out that Man United are somehow above other clubs for having some dreamt up ideology of not sacking managers. They, like every other club in the world, will sack their manager when it's not going well enough. Man United had the luxury of having comfortably the greatest manager ever to walk the Earth lead their club during a 25 odd year period where they were the regularly the best team in the Country/Europe. Such title cannot be bestowed on the three that have followed him. Man United are in a considerable mess and Mourinho is clearly the problem. Also this ‘Man Utd way’ of playing that Neville, Scholes, etc bang on about is a load of bollocks. There is no ‘Man Utd way’, it was the Fergie way. Now Fergie’s retired they won’t be able to play how they used to, regardless of who the manager is. Actually kind of similar to our situation... Lots of fans (including myself) mourn for the 15/16 playstyle but reality is it cannot be replicated! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ithuriel Posted 5 October 2018 Share Posted 5 October 2018 22 minutes ago, weller54 said: Dances with Wolves is my favourite film. Oops... Don't mention the W word!.. I mentioned it once but I think I got away with it! What was the W word again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtmcfly Posted 5 October 2018 Share Posted 5 October 2018 21 minutes ago, ithuriel said: What was the W word again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingsX Posted 6 October 2018 Share Posted 6 October 2018 2 hours ago, foxfanazer said: Can we create some kind of swear jar where everytime somebody mentions wolves in this thread they have to donate a pound to FoxesTalk or some charity One obsession gives way to another. How long do these cycles usually run? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan LCFC Posted 6 October 2018 Share Posted 6 October 2018 4 hours ago, AKCJ said: So sick of Gary Neville making out that Man United are somehow above other clubs for having some dreamt up ideology of not sacking managers. They, like every other club in the world, will sack their manager when it's not going well enough. Man United had the luxury of having comfortably the greatest manager ever to walk the Earth lead their club during a 25 odd year period where they were the regularly the best team in the Country/Europe. Such title cannot be bestowed on the three that have followed him. Man United are in a considerable mess and Mourinho is clearly the problem. It's far more than just him. The entire culture of the club is wrong. They're finally paying the price for prioritising pandering to glory hunters over building a successful team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan LCFC Posted 6 October 2018 Share Posted 6 October 2018 That was Brighton's first win in over 7 months that wasn't against Manchester United 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VLC86 Posted 6 October 2018 Share Posted 6 October 2018 5 hours ago, AKCJ said: So sick of Gary Neville making out that Man United are somehow above other clubs for having some dreamt up ideology of not sacking managers. They, like every other club in the world, will sack their manager when it's not going well enough. Man United had the luxury of having comfortably the greatest manager ever to walk the Earth lead their club during a 25 odd year period where they were the regularly the best team in the Country/Europe. Such title cannot be bestowed on the three that have followed him. Man United are in a considerable mess and Mourinho is clearly the problem. I didn’t see Neville’s latest rant but if you look into what he’s saying you can understand it. His point isn’t as simple as should Mourinho stay or go but if the board had a philosophy when looking for a new manager would they have appointed him in the first place and because they have, they should have known what to expect. If you compare that to us appointing Puel, Rudkin gets a load of shit from fans but if you think it’s actually his philosophy that has seen him go for someone like Puel and has had the balls to stick with him which is seeing us see a lot of players given a chance where they previously wouldn’t and players playing for England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnegan Posted 6 October 2018 Share Posted 6 October 2018 11 hours ago, AKCJ said: So sick of Gary Neville making out that Man United are somehow above other clubs for having some dreamt up ideology of not sacking managers. They, like every other club in the world, will sack their manager when it's not going well enough. Man United had the luxury of having comfortably the greatest manager ever to walk the Earth lead their club during a 25 odd year period where they were the regularly the best team in the Country/Europe. Such title cannot be bestowed on the three that have followed him. Man United are in a considerable mess and Mourinho is clearly the problem. I agree with the fact it's awful the rumor has been leaked but it's also a little excessively cynical of him to seem to assume it was leaked somehow deliberately, United are the biggest sporting machine in Europe and one of the biggest in the world, they can't move without the press all over everything, they'd always struggle for complete secrecy. I also found it irritating that he yet again joined in with this targeting of the board suggesting that they're to blame for hiring bad managers. They hired Jose Mourinho. Jose ****ing Mourinho, aye I think he lost the plot a fair few years ago and yes it does transpire that he is now the problem but it's not like they hired Sam Allardyce, I think most people would have agreed he was a manager worthy of a massive club when he started. Hindsight's a wonderful thing, etc. I mean since SAF they've had Moyes, who he sounded out as his replacement (which was admittedly a mistake letting him choose but a mistake that almost the entire footballing world went along with), Louis van Gaal who had enormous pedigree and Jose Mourinho who is one of the most decorated active managers on the planet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ealingfox Posted 6 October 2018 Share Posted 6 October 2018 20 minutes ago, Finnegan said: I agree with the fact it's awful the rumor has been leaked but it's also a little excessively cynical of him to seem to assume it was leaked somehow deliberately, United are the biggest sporting machine in Europe and one of the biggest in the world, they can't move without the press all over everything, they'd always struggle for complete secrecy. I also found it irritating that he yet again joined in with this targeting of the board suggesting that they're to blame for hiring bad managers. They hired Jose Mourinho. Jose ****ing Mourinho, aye I think he lost the plot a fair few years ago and yes it does transpire that he is now the problem but it's not like they hired Sam Allardyce, I think most people would have agreed he was a manager worthy of a massive club when he started. Hindsight's a wonderful thing, etc. I mean since SAF they've had Moyes, who he sounded out as his replacement (which was admittedly a mistake letting him choose but a mistake that almost the entire footballing world went along with), Louis van Gaal who had enormous pedigree and Jose Mourinho who is one of the most decorated active managers on the planet. I dunno, plenty of people were sceptical about his appointment when it was first rumoured. We'd seen before how his schtick went down at a genuinely big club when at Madrid, he's clearly more suited to smaller, more tinpot clubs like Chelsea. He's been run out of town within three years too many times now to avoid the conclusion that he's a limited manager a bit too overreliant on the chequebook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 6 October 2018 Share Posted 6 October 2018 I see people blaming their recruitment team for loads of duff signings. But it's not like he's not had his input is it, would many other managers have been rushing out and getting in what they have. They've bought players to suit his boring functional system. He's the one choosing to keep the likes of Felani as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuchsntf Posted 6 October 2018 Share Posted 6 October 2018 14 hours ago, Izzy Muzzett said: Poor that from West Ham. 65% possession and 16 shots away from home but very wasteful in front of goal Like their bubbles...start and float so beautifully,then fade and burst,when they reach the sky... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surrifox Posted 6 October 2018 Share Posted 6 October 2018 1 hour ago, Babylon said: I see people blaming their recruitment team for loads of duff signings. But it's not like he's not had his input is it, would many other managers have been rushing out and getting in what they have. They've bought players to suit his boring functional system. He's the one choosing to keep the likes of Felani as well. His input would have been spending £75 mill plus on Harry Maguire or Alderweireld . I can see the money men challenging the wisdom of that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danizen Posted 6 October 2018 Share Posted 6 October 2018 (edited) I wouldn't be surprised if Mourinho put one of his few allies up to it. Leak a story about him getting sacked so the club are then forced to either deny it or say nothing and confirm it's true. He wanted to know where he stood and this was the best way to do it. Ordinarily, I'd think this was too cynical but I don't think you can be too cynical when talking about Mourinho. Edited 6 October 2018 by Danizen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UniFox21 Posted 6 October 2018 Share Posted 6 October 2018 Don't think you can point the finger at anyone in this situation. Man Utd knew the type of guy they were bringing in, Jose plays a defensive style and was known for parking the bus or with less possession. He's then brought into a team where he's expected to play attacking, expressive football. Now Jose must've known this when he took the job, so either he isn't abke to successfully play that style of football or doesn't want to. He can't say he doesn't have the players, given he's had huge amounts of money chucked at the team. Something is wrong behind the scenes, no one from the board to the players are on the same page. People seem to be pulling in different directions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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