The Doctor Posted 31 December 2018 Share Posted 31 December 2018 1 hour ago, st albans fox said: Can’t believe the four or so sides around us will be as bad as we were second half last season ........ Assuming by second half you mean in the new year - we took 20 points from 16 games. 1.25 points per game, or 25 points by now if we'd produced the same form this season - Everton and West Ham are only 2 points up on that. Everyone is that bad, that inconsistent. People have delusions of grandeur if they think midtable is better than that and we're better than midtable - we've only finished in the top 7 four times in our history and once since 1929 59 minutes ago, themightyfin said: We are not a huge club we are not an established tip 6 as som tend to think. We have finished in the top 6 only once in our history... while I agree with your point, for pedantry we finished 3rd and 2nd in consecutive seasons 90 years ago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post katieakita Posted 31 December 2018 Popular Post Share Posted 31 December 2018 Big Midland clubs like Villa, Stoke, WBA, Derby and Forest would all change places with us. Time and time again the owners have made the right decisions or corrected the mistakes at their own expense. They have a plan and it is a long term plan. All clubs aim for the top, is there any indication that the club is settling for mid table stability in the PL something any of the above would snap your hands off for. The investment in the infrastructure is up there with the very best. Cannot think any supporter of Puel thinks he will have a tenure like Wenger or Fergie here but the club is IMVHO heading in the right direction. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ttfn Posted 31 December 2018 Share Posted 31 December 2018 1 hour ago, Babylon said: This is a major plus, people said he wasn't capable of even making us more solid and for a while that looked like the case. But we are, we've improved from open play N'didi massively from defensive set pieces. (And that's with more attacking defenders) Like you say, if we can now work on that side of it and we can get some improvement there, we are laughing. I'm just not sure we have the players for it currently. You know you post too much when you get autocorrected from “and” to “N’didi”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 31 December 2018 Share Posted 31 December 2018 2 hours ago, l444ry said: No one ever said things are easy but why should a club that won the Premiership a couple of years ago erect a mid table glass ceiling now. We. Don't. Spend. The. Required. Money. Without it, the best you get are freak seasons, not any form of consistency. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l444ry Posted 31 December 2018 Share Posted 31 December 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Babylon said: We. Don't. Spend. The. Required. Money. Without it, the best you get are freak seasons, not any form of consistency. Agree to some extent. A serious tilt at the Europa League should be within our budget though. More aimed at those that defend Puel's work.by saying we can only aspire to being a mid table side, we are where we should be, crap squad etc. Think we should be half glass full in our aspirations. Edited 31 December 2018 by l444ry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 31 December 2018 Share Posted 31 December 2018 5 hours ago, F1_AN said: Strikes me Puel has no interest in what’s being said around him which in some ways is commendable however we’ve seen how that played out for Jose who couldn’t move from his default approach despite it failing to deliver over and over. I assume Stowell just keeps his head down. He’s being through so many managers he must just go with the flow. Mir must be difficult to be in a job like that day to day with little or no positive interaction coming towards you (fans or players) "Failing to deliver", whilst I know you are talking about Jose, you seem to be drawing comparisons. We are 8th, as far as position goes for a club like us that's delivering. This isn't Man U spending billions and looking utter pish in sixth. I'll accept the entertainment argument, but position is not a problem and when you look around the league, results are on trend with those you'd expect to be challenging with us for the 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 31 December 2018 Share Posted 31 December 2018 1 minute ago, l444ry said: Agree to some extent. A serious tilt at the Europa League should be within our budget though. More aimed at those that defend Puel's work.by saying we can only aspire to being a mid table side, we are where we should be, crap squad etc. Think we should be half glass full. We are 8th a point off 7th, is that not a "a serious tilt", because we ain't getting higher than that without a big 6 club imploding. Everton have spent one or two hundred million more than us recently, West Ham have pumped in huge amounts the last year. We have no more right than they do to finish 7th. We are a 7th-11th type team, who will fluctuate between those position depending on numerous factors not all in our control. It's not what you or I want, but that's the realism of it at this moment in time. There isn't a single club who has done what many seem to expect us to do without consistent investment well above our rivals. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceirboy Posted 31 December 2018 Share Posted 31 December 2018 (edited) I'm happy with 8th, I'd be happy with 1 place above the last 3 to be fair. But if we are going to be near the bottom three, I want to see some decent football in the mean time. Edited 31 December 2018 by Ceirboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l444ry Posted 31 December 2018 Share Posted 31 December 2018 2 minutes ago, Babylon said: We are 8th a point off 7th, is that not a "a serious tilt", because we ain't getting higher than that without a big 6 club imploding. Everton have spent one or two hundred million more than us recently, West Ham have pumped in huge amounts the last year. We have no more right than they do to finish 7th. We are a 7th-11th type team, who will fluctuate between those position depending on numerous factors not all in our control. It's not what you or I want, but that's the realism of it at this moment in time. There isn't a single club who has done what many seem to expect us to do without consistent investment well above our rivals. Can't see us finishing 7th as our football is so dire. I know all games count but where would we be without the Chelsea/Man City points bonus. Either side of those two games we played like relegation fodder. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted 31 December 2018 Share Posted 31 December 2018 19 minutes ago, l444ry said: Agree to some extent. A serious tilt at the Europa League should be within our budget though. More aimed at those that defend Puel's work.by saying we can only aspire to being a mid table side, we are where we should be, crap squad etc. Think we should be half glass full in our aspirations. The serious tilt at Europa League we can manage is 7th (and hope it's a European spot) or winning a cup. Being 1 point off 7th and having made 3 quarter finals under Puel, going out to a top 6 side each time, seems like a reasonable tilt to me? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 31 December 2018 Share Posted 31 December 2018 Just now, l444ry said: Can't see us finishing 7th as our football is so dire. I know all games count but where would we be without the Chelsea/Man City points bonus. Either side of those two games we played like relegation fodder. So is everyone else in there. We've all played the same teams and everyone has lost games they think they should be winning or sprung the odd surprise. We're higher than all of them but West Ham in the 10 game form guide. Wolves lost something like 5 or 6 on the trot didn't they not long ago. Bournemouth lost 8 in 10. Everton have struggled. Everton and West Ham fans are probably just as frustrated as we are with the ups and downs in performance. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxinsocks Posted 31 December 2018 Share Posted 31 December 2018 Just go puel.... you have nothing to offer us.... you do not inspire us.... you take albrighton off and leave gray on. You set us up so we can't break down Cardiff. ..or burnley or palace or Southampton reserves. We are a one club golfer and you won't let us use the one club we have. Please find yourself a new club and leave us be 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weller in Tights Posted 31 December 2018 Share Posted 31 December 2018 23 minutes ago, foxinsocks said: Just go puel.... you have nothing to offer us.... you do not inspire us.... you take albrighton off and leave gray on. You set us up so we can't break down Cardiff. ..or burnley or palace or Southampton reserves. We are a one club golfer and you won't let us use the one club we have. Please find yourself a new club and leave us be Aren’t opinions bizarre. With regards Puel, who knows what’s best. At times I think, let’s have a change but at other times I think, we’re not far off being a decent team and he will give youth a chance. If he goes, who do we realistically get? I’m just not sure. But with regards Albrighton !? he was appalling in the Cardiff game! Don’t get me wrong, any member of the team that created the greatest memory of my life is a god and always will be. But he was appalling against Cardiff. And although Gray was no better, he does have a touch of skill in his locker that he can occasionally pull out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Oxlong Posted 1 January 2019 Share Posted 1 January 2019 (edited) Things must be on the up. There’s been no calls for him to be sacked since last year Edited 1 January 2019 by Mike Oxlong 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Quick Brown Fox Posted 1 January 2019 Share Posted 1 January 2019 6 minutes ago, Mike Oxlong said: Things must be on the up. There’s been no calls for him to be sacked since last year Sack the cvnt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Nacho Posted 1 January 2019 Share Posted 1 January 2019 Just now, browniefox said: Sack the cvnt. First one of the year. Something tells me you won't be the last Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Quick Brown Fox Posted 1 January 2019 Share Posted 1 January 2019 Just now, Ian Nacho said: First one of the year. Something tells me you won't be the last Be interesting to see if the rumours are true. I am fully in the Puel out camp and have been for a long time. I personally am fed up of the boring football he has us playing and constantly paying defensive football really gets on my tits, If he can learn to adapt to attack the smaller teams then maybe I could turn around my views but he's had time and still hasn't changed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Fox Posted 1 January 2019 Share Posted 1 January 2019 https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/rafa-benitez-leicesters-radar-claude-13798146 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumbleFox Posted 1 January 2019 Share Posted 1 January 2019 Can we close this as a New Year Gift? He can't be "facing the sack" all season surely? X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Oxlong Posted 1 January 2019 Share Posted 1 January 2019 14 minutes ago, browniefox said: Sack the cvnt. Fail Too equivocal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volpeazzurro Posted 1 January 2019 Share Posted 1 January 2019 5 hours ago, l444ry said: No one ever said things are easy but why should a club that won the Premiership a couple of years ago erect a mid table glass ceiling now. We should be pushing for Europe as a target and paying watchable football as a minimum with our Owners. Because the best players that help us win that left. We replaced them with a bunch of expensive duffers. We're now reconstructing. Have you been living under a rock? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosbehFox Posted 1 January 2019 Share Posted 1 January 2019 The language some display on either side of the Puel in and Puel out camps is atrocious. Says a lot about your own personality. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mod hero Posted 1 January 2019 Share Posted 1 January 2019 7 minutes ago, Cardiff_Fox said: The language some display on either side of the Puel in and Puel out camps is atrocious. Says a lot about your own personality. C unts mate 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weller54 Posted 1 January 2019 Share Posted 1 January 2019 7 hours ago, volpeazzurro said: Because the best players that help us win that left. We replaced them with a bunch of expensive duffers. We're now reconstructing. Have you been living under a rock? Gibraltar isn't a bad place to live! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mugshot Posted 1 January 2019 Popular Post Share Posted 1 January 2019 Happy new year! My take on Puel is... We we won the premier league on a style of soaking up pressure and hitting teams on the counter at rapid pace. We had a style that suited the team but realistically was not a style that could continue year after year because A) teams were finding us out and B) physically the players could not keep up the intensity. Puel is trying to support transitioning the team in both personnel and style. The personnel because we have key players leave (Kante/Mahrez/Drinkwater) and the rest of the title winning team are aging. This means that whilst there have been players bought who are not right for the team/squad, there are a number of young players being bloodied in to the team ready for (hopefully) greater things in the future. In the defense and midfield I believe we can be excited by what we have in our young under 23 players (Chilwell, Soyuncu, Benkovic, Hamza, Maddison, Gray to name a few.... we still have kaputska and others) so the problematic area at the moment is unearthing the Vardy replacement, which to be honest is like getting blood out of a stone because he is unlike any of the other PL frontmen and a replacement that is known would cost a fortune IF we could get them to join Leicester vs. the top 6. The later in style is needed to build for the future so we have a plan A and B. Think the last three matches. The problem here is that we have all enjoyed a fast paced, frenetic and extremely enjoyable brand of football in recent times and now Puel wants a more possession based approach that is less exciting when not mixed with an attack group cutting opposition defense to ribbons. This is also whilst transitioning to a young team, many of which on their first/second seasons in the prem. My view is that looking at Puel at an overall level of moving the team from the title winning personnel and style to a new group of young exciting players and adapting our style, he is doing a decent job. This is going to take a season or two to happen for us to hopefully be back challenging the top 6 who are just gaining in strength aince we won the league. Its the 1st Jan and we are 8th, one point off 7th with a very young and exciting team... the future is exciting and Puel, whilst at times not being dynamic or playing a dynamic brand of football that excites is quietly going about this transition and doing it well so far so I’m Puel in. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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