Cricket 2019

[Vlad the Fox]

8 hours ago, StanSP said:

Love this. 

 

Imagine how he must feel at that point, the release of tension, the adrenaline pumping through his veins, the atmosphere and the noise. Imagine the hit. You’d feel like a god. Incredible innings, the greatest under the circumstances. What a match. Go on and bring the ashes home now.

[stripeyfox]

What an amazing game. Absolutely incredible. I didn't think the sheer drama of the World Cup Final could be topped but that last few balls - Lyon dropping the ball, Stokes lbw not given. 2 runs to win, 1 wicket to win. Incredible stuff.

 

Now we just need a win and a draw to see it home. No margin for error, defeat in either of the next two tests and it's all over.

 

 

[surrifox]

13 minutes ago, stripeyfox said:

What an amazing game. Absolutely incredible. I didn't think the sheer drama of the World Cup Final could be topped but that last few balls - Lyon dropping the ball, Stokes lbw not given. 2 runs to win, 1 wicket to win. Incredible stuff.

 

Now we just need a win and a draw to see it home. No margin for error, defeat in either of the next two tests and it's all over.

 

 

I don’t see either of the remaining games ending in a draw unless the weather plays a massive part , neither  side bat well enough over 5 days. 

[Mickey O'Neil]

I know bugger-all about cricket. I’ve only ever watched it once (20/20) and that was in a bar in India a few years ago. 

 

However, I’ve just watched that Ben Stokes thingy on the BBC Sport website and even I found it interesting and enjoyable. 

[deejdeej]

Cricket has been the best thing about this summer by a country mile, even my 9 year old has been hooked!

[StanSP]

1 hour ago, Vlad the Fox said:

Imagine how he must feel at that point, the release of tension, the adrenaline pumping through his veins, the atmosphere and the noise. Imagine the hit. You’d feel like a god. Incredible innings, the greatest under the circumstances. What a match. Go on and bring the ashes home now.

I just love the fact he knows he's nailed it as soon as he's hit it. He knows the job is done. What a feeling. 

[stripeyfox]

5 minutes ago, deejdeej said:

Cricket has been the best thing about this summer by a country mile, even my 9 year old has been hooked!

ha ha. I know the feeling. I've been fencing questions from my 11 and 8 year old sons about cricket for the last few weeks. I've done my best to answer them but sometimes it's just a case of "cricket has some really obscure rules which no one actually understands"!

 

Driving home last night and explaining to them what "rotating the strike" means, whilst they are asking "why don't they save a good batsman for the end?" 

 

 

 

[fuchsntf]

Just Stop and think a moment...

 

If we were in Australias position....What would the pundits,Panels and all English fans thinking....!!!s

Butler was unfortunately ran out,the rest of the innings Australia made some poor  mistakes  and poor decision making.

I Haven yet Read any of the OZ Media reports....but I supose we could tilt them to show,'if the Boot was in the other foot'

 

 

 

[deejdeej]

19 minutes ago, stripeyfox said:

ha ha. I know the feeling. I've been fencing questions from my 11 and 8 year old sons about cricket for the last few weeks. I've done my best to answer them but sometimes it's just a case of "cricket has some really obscure rules which no one actually understands"!

 

Driving home last night and explaining to them what "rotating the strike" means, whilst they are asking "why don't they save a good batsman for the end?" 

 

 

 

Some of the questions can be very hard to explain 

[Tanya]

I was in awe watching it. Not only was that last hour mesmirizing, it's even more impressive because Stokes started his innings so slowly.

 

Lot of bitterness here in Aus about the fielding and captaincy but that will be a footnote when we look back at this innings. One for the ages.

 

Now I'm looking forward to another two chancesto retain the Ashes. Cracking series so far. 

[Stinkenzo]

What timezone is Izzy in?

[Guest ttfn]

6 hours ago, leicsmac said:

Now in the cold light of day, a little conundrum:

 

Assuming that Jimmy is going to be fit for the Fourth Test, do you bring him into the side, and if you do, which bowler makes way for him (really don't think he should come in for a batsman given how fragile our batting already is)? Broad? Archer? Woakes?

I suppose another way of looking at it is that the batsmen are scoring so few runs at the moment, bringing Anderson in for, say, Buttler is unlikely to make a material difference to our batting.

 

Weirdly Root doesn’t seem to trust Woakes at the moment though, some curiously short spells for him throughout the series so you’d have thought he’d drop out. Arguably that makes our batting weaker than bringing Anderson in for Buttler or Roy though.

[Goober]

If Jimmy is fit we have to go Jimmy, Broad, Archer for me. Stokes awesome with the ball in the 2nd innings too and I've been very encouraged by Leach. Sad to drop Woakes as he's a really valuable and reliable player but he's not really turned up with bat or ball this series.

[SouthStandUpperTier]

They'd be absolutely brain dead to bring Jimmy back in unless they are 100% sure he can make it through a 5-day test. If he breaks down in the middle of a test again they are screwed.

[Lionator]

12 minutes ago, SouthStandUpperTier said:

They'd be absolutely brain dead to bring Jimmy back in unless they are 100% sure he can make it through a 5-day test. If he breaks down in the middle of a test again they are screwed.

The bowling isn't the issue for me, we can get 20 wickets comfortably but so can the Aussies (not yesterday though ha). If we bring Jimmy in presumably for Woakes, our tail will start at 8 and we wont get enough runs given that Smith will be back. If it gets to the Oval needing to win then I think Jimmy is a risk worth taking. 

[Corky]

1 hour ago, ttfn said:

I suppose another way of looking at it is that the batsmen are scoring so few runs at the moment, bringing Anderson in for, say, Buttler is unlikely to make a material difference to our batting.

 

Weirdly Root doesn’t seem to trust Woakes at the moment though, some curiously short spells for him throughout the series so you’d have thought he’d drop out. Arguably that makes our batting weaker than bringing Anderson in for Buttler or Roy though.

Lots of talk that Woakes is carrying a knee injury. It might be the perfect excuse to get Anderson back in without needing to drop Broad or Archer.

[Livid]

I’m not getting the video review system in cricket.

 

It’s been brought into football, regardless of whether or not you agree with It, to cut out errors and mistakes by referees over the entirety of the game. 

 

Yesterday I saw a sport where because Australia had used up their reviews an abysmal LBW call by the on field umpire was allowed to stand. 

 

I know we won and it was the same for both teams but If we are going to use video assistance in sport we have to go all in. 

[trabuch]

1 minute ago, Livid said:

I’m not getting the video review system in cricket.

 

It’s been brought into football, regardless of whether or not you agree with It, to cut out errors and mistakes by referees over the entirety of the game. 

 

Yesterday I saw a sport where because Australia had used up their reviews an abysmal LBW call by the on field umpire was allowed to stand. 

 

I know we won and it was the same for both teams but If we are going to use video assistance in sport we have to go all in. 

Australia burned their last review on a terrible lbw shout. It was their fault they didn't have the review. I thought it was fantastic, and the rules work just fine. Two wrong reviews is plenty if you aren't a bunch of panicky losers. Cricket authorities don't want the game totally umpired from off field.

[leicsmac]

4 hours ago, Voll Blau said:

Anderson for Woakes and someone, not sure who, for Roy. We should have been bolder this time out and our selections would have cost us The Ashes were it not for one of the most remarkable innings ever seen.

 

The momentum is with us, but we need to keep emotion out of who we go for in Manchester.

That's what I'd go for too, but tbh I would give Roy at least the rest of the series - there's been far too much revolving door when it comes to the openers in the past few years anyway.

 

2 hours ago, ttfn said:

I suppose another way of looking at it is that the batsmen are scoring so few runs at the moment, bringing Anderson in for, say, Buttler is unlikely to make a material difference to our batting.

 

Weirdly Root doesn’t seem to trust Woakes at the moment though, some curiously short spells for him throughout the series so you’d have thought he’d drop out. Arguably that makes our batting weaker than bringing Anderson in for Buttler or Roy though.

You might be onto something there, though I'd still want to stick with six specialist batsmen, an all-rounder and four bowlers if it was at all possible.

[AKCJ]

31 minutes ago, Livid said:

I’m not getting the video review system in cricket.

 

It’s been brought into football, regardless of whether or not you agree with It, to cut out errors and mistakes by referees over the entirety of the game. 

 

Yesterday I saw a sport where because Australia had used up their reviews an abysmal LBW call by the on field umpire was allowed to stand. 

 

I know we won and it was the same for both teams but If we are going to use video assistance in sport we have to go all in. 

DRS is designed to account for a shocking umpiring decision.

 

Like when Root smashed the ball onto his pads and was given out. The review is there to cover up those decisions.

 

Burning a review after that ball was pathetic captaincy from Paine. That ball was pitched in a different postcode to the stumps.

[AKCJ]

5 hours ago, Voll Blau said:

Anderson for Woakes and someone, not sure who, for Roy. We should have been bolder this time out and our selections would have cost us The Ashes were it not for one of the most remarkable innings ever seen.

 

The momentum is with us, but we need to keep emotion out of who we go for in Manchester.

Burns

Sibley

Denley

Root

Stokes

Bairstow

Foakes (wk)

Archer

Broad

Leach

Anderson

[Lester.14]

https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/cricket/ben-stokes-no-australia-i-wasnt-out-with-two-runs-required-a4221336.html

can someone explain or elaborate on this? is stokes wrong on this occasion? looked nailed on and if they hadnt used the review in the over before, he would of been gone.

while i understand the laws, and how the review system works. why do we even have on field umpires? when they can guarantee the correct decision everytime from upstairs, and cut out the need to ever review a decision?

with football, VAR is still a matter of opinion but with cricket it either is or isnt barring exceptional circumstances like the catch given but had appeared to bounce from one angle and not from the other (either in the second test or the first innings of the 3rd, not sure)

decisions given on umpires call can still be given without the need of an onfield umpire

shouldnt change something that works, however, i personally think it can be improved. use the technology, eradicate reviews and on field umpiring and get the decision right. gaffeney had 6!! overturned in one match

[Goober]

Anyone else think the Hawkeye got the LBW wrong anyway? Thought at the time that the ball tracker looked off and the more I see it the more convinced I am. There's no way the ball was coming back that much. Had it hooping back in a mile following the line of the ball AFTER it had flicked the front pad. Bit biased maybe but I think at worst it would've been umpire's call.

[Corky]

1 hour ago, Livid said:

I’m not getting the video review system in cricket.

 

It’s been brought into football, regardless of whether or not you agree with It, to cut out errors and mistakes by referees over the entirety of the game. 

 

Yesterday I saw a sport where because Australia had used up their reviews an abysmal LBW call by the on field umpire was allowed to stand. 

 

I know we won and it was the same for both teams but If we are going to use video assistance in sport we have to go all in. 

Their remaining review was a dreadful call, it was never out and was just desperation because they probably thought they wouldn't get another chance to use it.

 

Human error, how frustrating, is part of the game. We shouldn't take everything away from the officials. 

[Lester.14]

6 minutes ago, Corky said:

Their remaining review was a dreadful call, it was never out and was just desperation because they probably thought they wouldn't get another chance to use it.

 

Human error, how frustrating, is part of the game. We shouldn't take everything away from the officials. 

is the job of an official to be a part of the game? or to enforce the rules of the sport? or both?

i guess thats a matter of opinion in itself but to your comment "we shouldnt take everything away from the officials" id ask why? if it meant the correct application of all the laws at all times.