Sampson Posted 10 May 2022 Share Posted 10 May 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, StanSP said: He does, just not consistently or with discipline. Well his pressing stats (or lack of them) in this side stand out like a sore thumb. They are the worst by a player who isn't a centre back or Schmeichel (even worse than anchor men like Choudhury and Mendy). Basically presses half as much as the likes of Perez, Albrighton and Lookman in his same position. Also his pressures in the defensive third are 3 or 4 times less than those players. His pressing stats in the middle 3rd even are less than Vardy, Iheanacho and Daka's which shows just how little he tracks back. He even presses less than Vardy who we've all been told the past couple of seasons has been told to stay down the middle and conserve energy. This is for a 24 year old winger not a 35 year old centre back. Either he already has been instructed to have way less defensive responsibility than the likes of Lookman, Perez and Albrighton when they play in that position or he’s just an incredibly lazy player not pulling his weight. Those stats are per 90 mins btw. Edited 10 May 2022 by Sampson 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkie1999 Posted 10 May 2022 Share Posted 10 May 2022 45 minutes ago, Sampson said: What defensive duties? Barnes never presses or tracks back like our other wingers/attacking midfielders do. He was playing within 15 ft of Evans on sunday. Evans couldn't get a pass to him because he was so close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sampson Posted 10 May 2022 Share Posted 10 May 2022 6 minutes ago, yorkie1999 said: He was playing within 15 ft of Evans on sunday. Evans couldn't get a pass to him because he was so close. That’s because he was literally playing out of position at wing back. For the only time in his Leicester career as far as I remember. That isn’t his norm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Posted 10 May 2022 Share Posted 10 May 2022 8 minutes ago, Sampson said: That’s because he was literally playing out of position at wing back. For the only time in his Leicester career as far as I remember. That isn’t his norm. Barnes played LWB at Villa Park in the league cup semi final. With Chilwell playing as a LCB. Another Brendan masterclass that day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post moore_94 Posted 11 May 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 11 May 2022 21 goal contributions for the season with the 2 assists tonight One of only 5 players to reach 20 goal contributions in a season since we have been back in the Prem - Vardy, Mahrez, Maddison, Iheanacho are the others 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinowe Soorie Posted 11 May 2022 Share Posted 11 May 2022 Just now, moore_94 said: 21 goal contributions for the season with the 2 assists tonight One of only 5 players to reach 20 goal contributions in a season since we have been back in the Prem - Vardy, Mahrez, Maddison, Iheanacho are the others A few people have mentioned that we should sell him 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParkerPen Posted 11 May 2022 Share Posted 11 May 2022 shit get rid etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 11 May 2022 Share Posted 11 May 2022 Has long been a biggest source of providing goals. He's having nowhere near the season he's capable of and yet he still is producing in patches. Just needs a proper momentum boost from whoever the management team is in the summer and really work on getting back to his best. Loved how desperate he was to try and set up a 3rd for Vardy too, couple of times he was looking for him rather than go it alone as it opened up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLAN Posted 11 May 2022 Share Posted 11 May 2022 Let’s not pretend he wasn’t very poor again first half. First “assist” wasn’t anything really just Vardy getting lucky with a deflection. Second one was a decent run and pass. But Norwhich were abysmal. Let’s see some consistency please 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted 11 May 2022 Share Posted 11 May 2022 Much better with Justin on the left, gives the opposition more to think about. Still not sure why it's took so long but hopefully we stick with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoareyaaa Posted 11 May 2022 Share Posted 11 May 2022 1 hour ago, moore_94 said: 21 goal contributions for the season with the 2 assists tonight One of only 5 players to reach 20 goal contributions in a season since we have been back in the Prem - Vardy, Mahrez, Maddison, Iheanacho are the others sell him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoareyaaa Posted 11 May 2022 Share Posted 11 May 2022 1 hour ago, Kinowe Soorie said: A few people have mentioned that we should sell him Barmy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raj Posted 11 May 2022 Share Posted 11 May 2022 Great when he attacks with pace. Sell him!!!(See above post!!!)🤣🤣🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CloudFox Posted 11 May 2022 Share Posted 11 May 2022 1st half, not great. 2nd half reminded me of how lethal he and Vardy can be when they find a bit of form together. As I said in the Lookman transfer thread, I think it's really worth us signing Ade to compete with Barnes on the left. Really push Barnes to get back to the kind of form we saw from him in the 2nd half tonight. Love it when he's on-song like that. Just bulldozes through players with his pace and directness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 12 May 2022 Share Posted 12 May 2022 Vardy is the kind of striker that makes an intelligent enough run at the time that benefits Barnes. Iheanacho can be a bit unpredictable in that sense. Nonetheless, Barnes looked like he picked up a bit more confidence yesterday which can only be a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 12 May 2022 Share Posted 12 May 2022 Has to play again on Sunday - otherwise he will lose what little rhythm yesterdays second half has given him …….the kid is desperately out of form - his touch and decision making woeful. That cold easily change like a flick of a switch ……we may have seen that yesterday …..let’s see on Sunday ….l 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 12 May 2022 Share Posted 12 May 2022 (edited) Will benefit from having a class RW on the other side, far to easy for teams to double up on him as one of our main threats. How many players can have a average season off form in a team that's struggled and get 21 goal contributions, including 12 in the PL. Edited 12 May 2022 by coolhandfox 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les-TA-Jon Posted 12 May 2022 Share Posted 12 May 2022 12 hours ago, FLAN said: Let’s not pretend he wasn’t very poor again first half. First “assist” wasn’t anything really just Vardy getting lucky with a deflection. Second one was a decent run and pass. But Norwhich were abysmal. Let’s see some consistency please Nonsense. It was an assist. It was a great pass into the channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLAN Posted 12 May 2022 Share Posted 12 May 2022 1 hour ago, Les-TA-Jon said: Nonsense. It was an assist. It was a great pass into the channel Touching the ball prior to another player scoring a massively deflected goal may technically be an assist. The issue with Barnes is poor overall contribution in harder games which makes us weaker at a time when other players are below required levels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les-TA-Jon Posted 12 May 2022 Share Posted 12 May 2022 14 hours ago, moore_94 said: 21 goal contributions for the season with the 2 assists tonight One of only 5 players to reach 20 goal contributions in a season since we have been back in the Prem - Vardy, Mahrez, Maddison, Iheanacho are the others 13 minutes ago, FLAN said: Touching the ball prior to another player scoring a massively deflected goal may technically be an assist. The issue with Barnes is poor overall contribution in harder games which makes us weaker at a time when other players are below required levels Whoops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 12 May 2022 Share Posted 12 May 2022 11 minutes ago, FLAN said: Touching the ball prior to another player scoring a massively deflected goal may technically be an assist. The issue with Barnes is poor overall contribution in harder games which makes us weaker at a time when other players are below required levels There was an assist taken off him recently though that won't count in his stats where he'd been excellent for for the goal - the own goal at home to Roma as own goals don't count when you set them up for some reason. He's still delivering and yet we all know he can and will do so much better. Nobody can deny that regardless of his form he contributes goals and assists. Thankfully last night he looked much more dangerous once he'd had a hand in the goals, just a shame he wasn't as confident last weekend vs Everton as he had 3 chances I reckon with confidence he'd have buried. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLAN Posted 12 May 2022 Share Posted 12 May 2022 45 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: There was an assist taken off him recently though that won't count in his stats where he'd been excellent for for the goal - the own goal at home to Roma as own goals don't count when you set them up for some reason. He's still delivering and yet we all know he can and will do so much better. Nobody can deny that regardless of his form he contributes goals and assists. Thankfully last night he looked much more dangerous once he'd had a hand in the goals, just a shame he wasn't as confident last weekend vs Everton as he had 3 chances I reckon with confidence he'd have buried. Didn’t know that so I guess that’s swings and roundabouts. No doubt he had a decent second half but how long can he be allowed to remain so inconsistent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Hazels shorts Posted 12 May 2022 Share Posted 12 May 2022 Big season for him next year unless he gets the move he wants. (on 5.2M a year so maybe Newcastle favourites?) Has been poor by his own admission this season and the fact that Rodgers has dropped him on occasions for our loan RW'r and played our most creative player out of position on the RW (JM) suggests he feels the same. An outstanding championship player as proved at West Brom and plays well against poorer premiership sides (Norwich lost 12 out of last 14) . He's got to learn to do it against quality. Accommodating him has a detrimental effect on the choice of team and set up IMO. We have played 6 'right wingers'- Lookman is a better LW than RW, JM shouldn't be moved from 10 position and last seasons top scorer and Vardys support and 'legs' was dropped for HB following his injury and double Covid bouts Setting up last night with a fit (hypothetically) Fofana in a 3 with Dan/ Soyuncu and Evans (that would eliminate the need for the Mendy bail out) Wingbacks (choice of 5 if all fit) and Vardy (in his 36 year and needs support) with Iheanacho and forget the wing tinkering 1-3-4-1-2 trust me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sm1 Posted 12 May 2022 Share Posted 12 May 2022 Seems to have very good synergy with Thomas and has gone off the boil as Thomas has been sidelined. Although you cant argue with the stats, it just feels Barnes has more to give. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stadt Posted 12 May 2022 Share Posted 12 May 2022 (edited) All of our best football under Rodgers has featured Barnes. I used wyscout’s free trial recently and watched Barnes’ goals and assists from this season back. He’s at his best when we move the ball quickly, which we’ve done so infrequently this season it hampers his game. The goals against Leeds and Villa this season were textbook Barnes, strong running and two different sorts of excellent finishes. If we can look to isolate him against a fullback with a bit of space they usually can’t cope. I used to read a lot more coaching/tactical pieces than I do now but one of the main features of Guardiola’s philosophy is to deliberately build up to create superiorities on the pitch. Whether they’re quantitative (overloads) or qualitative (player quality mismatches eg. Pace, strength, skill)). We should look to build up on the right more often to create 1 v 1s on the left for Barnes. The last time Barnes was regularly in those circumstances was against West Ham, Coufal couldn’t hack it all and got dragged off on 67 minutes. Edited 12 May 2022 by Stadt 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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