SafewayFox Posted 30 December 2022 Share Posted 30 December 2022 At 25, I think the chance of Harvey learning some FIFA Street style tricks are long gone BUT can we please encourage someone to get closer to him? Barnes is at his best in two scenarios - 1) Grass to run into at pace 2) Playing one touch give and goes (triangle passes etc) Yet, with no other pace up top, we play him in and then expect him to beat 1/2 defenders which isn’t what he’s been good at during his time here. We may as well play Nacho up top and bemoan that he doesn’t rip all CB’s for pace like peak Vardy whilst we’re at it 🙈 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post worthosoriginals Posted 30 December 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 30 December 2022 2 minutes ago, lcfcdamo said: If people cant see this there stupid You mean like the people that dont know the difference between there and they're? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperEadem Posted 30 December 2022 Share Posted 30 December 2022 Shows how poor the squad is that we can’t give him some time out which I think he needs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom27111 Posted 30 December 2022 Share Posted 30 December 2022 1 minute ago, StanSP said: Off day today, but he still needs to play because we have no alternative. Not a good position to be in when players don't have to compete for their places. That might play a part in it, but the most obvious thing is that there's nobody on the opposite flank. Everything comes down his side. The amount of tactical analysis teams do nowadays, they just say "Keep Barnes quiet, we'll win" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nod.E Posted 30 December 2022 Share Posted 30 December 2022 6 minutes ago, lcfcdamo said: If people cant see this there stupid As stupid as not knowing their there/their/they'res? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ledecestre Posted 30 December 2022 Share Posted 30 December 2022 5 minutes ago, SemperEadem said: Shows how poor the squad is that we can’t give him some time out which I think he needs. Is it time out or some support by having another outlet? I mean I do think he holds the ball too long sometimes but all players have their foibles, and we don;t notice it as much when we're not trying to funnel everything through him to get forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ian Nacho Posted 30 December 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 30 December 2022 Not good enough sadly. We’ve been cutting him slack for some time now because he’s from Leicester. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLAN Posted 30 December 2022 Share Posted 30 December 2022 Not sure how lack of a right winger causes him to make poor decisions so often? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanf0x Posted 30 December 2022 Share Posted 30 December 2022 (edited) Good player on his day, but come across two of the best full backs in the league in the past 2 games and marked out the games Edited 30 December 2022 by alanf0x 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 30 December 2022 Share Posted 30 December 2022 3 minutes ago, FLAN said: Not sure how lack of a right winger causes him to make poor decisions so often? Because a proper right winger would stop him being doubled up on so regularly, giving him more time and space. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafewayFox Posted 30 December 2022 Share Posted 30 December 2022 Just now, FLAN said: Not sure how lack of a right winger causes him to make poor decisions so often? Without going on a 1,000 word rant to this. In simple terms - his decision making is made A LOT harder as any opposition defenders know to double up on Barnes as he’s our only outlet. Not excusing some of his decision making but folks on here saying to bin him off etc, genuinely scare me. He’s been our best winger since Mahrez by a country mile and his numbers back that up. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddo Posted 30 December 2022 Share Posted 30 December 2022 Why are some of you acting like he was double teamed he lost every 1v1 against Trent Alexander Arnold 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Nacho Posted 30 December 2022 Share Posted 30 December 2022 Don’t get me wrong, he is a Premier League player but he is nowhere at the levels we’re striving for. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom27111 Posted 30 December 2022 Share Posted 30 December 2022 1 minute ago, SafewayFox said: Without going on a 1,000 word rant to this. In simple terms - his decision making is made A LOT harder as any opposition defenders know to double up on Barnes as he’s our only outlet. Not excusing some of his decision making but folks on here saying to bin him off etc, genuinely scare me. He’s been our best winger since Mahrez by a country mile and his numbers back that up. We have no balance to the side. Maybe I worded it wrong by saying another winger would make Barnes a better player...it would give him better opportunities to do what he's good at, because he'd have more time and space. Maddison, Praet, Perez, or anyone else we currently have can't do that. It's shoehorning a cm into a wingers position. It doesn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafewayFox Posted 30 December 2022 Share Posted 30 December 2022 4 minutes ago, Eddo said: Why are some of you acting like he was double teamed he lost every 1v1 against Trent Alexander Arnold Read what most comments from people not throwing Barnes in the bin state? He has a poor game but those 1v1 with Trent that you reference were when we sprayed a long/direct ball for Barnes to run into with Trent then defending him perfectly. However, shock horror, if we had a similar threat down the right then how Trent and other Liverpool defenders set up would mean that Barnes would be at his best when either directly running past his FB or having a team mate closer to play quick 1-2’s with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kierzz Posted 30 December 2022 Share Posted 30 December 2022 12 minutes ago, alanf0x said: Good player on his day, but come across two of the best full backs in the league in the past 2 games and marked out the games Arnold.... One of the best defensive full backs in the league??! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Hazels shorts Posted 30 December 2022 Share Posted 30 December 2022 7 minutes ago, Ian Nacho said: Don’t get me wrong, he is a Premier League player but he is nowhere at the levels we’re striving for. He’s a great championship level player when was his last game against quality? 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adejo92 Posted 30 December 2022 Share Posted 30 December 2022 He just seems very one dimensional. Don't get me wrong, his finishing has improved hugely, but when he runs at defenders, he just looks so un-threatening. Doesn't seem to have any 'skill' as such, just seems to run at defenders and hopes that he can just clatter & deflect his way through an impossible path. Still, probably me being picky, I could think of a number of players i'd be changing and his name wouldn't come near to the list. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanf0x Posted 30 December 2022 Share Posted 30 December 2022 4 minutes ago, Kierzz said: Arnold.... One of the best defensive full backs in the league??! Man of the match tonight and didn’t let poor Harvey have a sniff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tom27111 Posted 30 December 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 30 December 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Bob Hazels shorts said: He’s a great championship level player when was his last game against quality? Could literally be applied to any member of our squad at the minute. Jesus, 2 months ago, a few were asking why he wasn't being mentioned for the World Cup squad. Whilst he's nowhere near that, he's better than a Championship player. He's not perfect, I'm not saying he is, but could we replace him for less than £20m? I'd say no. Especially considering he's a home grown player. We've been shite as a team for quite some time, apart from a few games before the break. I don't think Barnes should be anywhere near the top of the list of players being slated. Edited 30 December 2022 by tom27111 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalletFox Posted 30 December 2022 Share Posted 30 December 2022 34 minutes ago, SemperEadem said: Shows how poor the squad is that we can’t give him some time out which I think he needs. Lookman would have been the perfect option to get at Trent. Barnes was getting no joy so could have switched flanks or dragged him and Lookman would have had Trent dancing in circles. Such a missed opportunity for us not bringing him in permanently, very short sighted considering we now have funds to spend in Jan! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HybridFox Posted 30 December 2022 Share Posted 30 December 2022 (edited) He can tell us all about it, he's on Soccer AM tomorrow Edited 30 December 2022 by TK95 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmono84 Posted 30 December 2022 Share Posted 30 December 2022 His 1v1 against TAA was quite embarrassing. I don’t get what he was doing, he had about 5 yards on him, then Barnes got closer and closer to him and then tries to knock it on the outside of him, he pretty much tackled himself! If you’re gonna do that Barnes do it when you’ve got space to run into!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayfox Posted 30 December 2022 Share Posted 30 December 2022 46 minutes ago, SemperEadem said: Shows how poor the squad is that we can’t give him some time out which I think he needs. Shows how badly the squad has been maamged going back several windows when we play 433 and only have one winger. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParkerPen Posted 30 December 2022 Share Posted 30 December 2022 Made some poor decisions tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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