Mickyblueeyes Posted 4 May 2023 Share Posted 4 May 2023 Here comes the asset strip. I’m sorry but there is no way a team with a virtually new starting 11 next season stays up. No chance. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafewayFox Posted 4 May 2023 Share Posted 4 May 2023 30 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said: Here comes the asset strip. I’m sorry but there is no way a team with a virtually new starting 11 next season stays up. No chance. I don’t know, I’m hopeful there are three worse teams in the Championship next season mate 👀 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamble92 Posted 4 May 2023 Share Posted 4 May 2023 If we stay up the club are not letting this happen. I can't picture Villa spending £60 million on a player. If they were to then I think their fans would expect it to be on someone a lot more experienced and proven than Harvey Barnes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickyblueeyes Posted 4 May 2023 Share Posted 4 May 2023 9 minutes ago, SafewayFox said: I don’t know, I’m hopeful there are three worse teams in the Championship next season mate 👀 Hopefully. The last time we carried out as extensive a rebuild as this was under Micky. Martin Keown, Dion Dublin, Nathan Blake. And, the midfield maestro we chased all season in Gareth Williams. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royston. Posted 4 May 2023 Share Posted 4 May 2023 Feck me if Barnes goes for 60 mil then Maddison is worth twice as much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan LCFC Posted 5 May 2023 Share Posted 5 May 2023 5 hours ago, Pete52 said: If Barnes goes, and Maddison and Tielemans, then we’re definitely going down next season. Might as well not bother. I do agree with this. We've got a dilemma here and it's entirely because we stunted our run of making a sale each summer. We're now in a position where we're going to lose Tielemans for nothing, lose Soyuncu for nothing, have to sell Maddison because he has a year left - and then if we want to avoid a repeat of Maddison, we'd have to sell Barnes as well as he has two years left. But we're not going to be able to because that is just too big a hit for us to handle I think. We'd have to have our best window probably since summer 2015 to avoid the drop next season if we did this. So we're going to lose out on the premium for Barnes as well. We really have blown it. We need substantial changes at this club regardless of division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pliskin Posted 5 May 2023 Share Posted 5 May 2023 5 hours ago, Pete52 said: If Barnes goes, and Maddison and Tielemans, then we’re definitely going down next season. Might as well not bother. We need money, so the only way we can do this is to sell sellable assets. Unfortunately, it’s what we need to do. If we stay up, it’s going to be a ****ing busy ass summer. And they can’t even break up, they’re going to have to be on it from the last whistle. I expect there to be two scenarios drawn up, with a selection of players ready to go for, and I expect the conversations to have already started. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post theessexfox Posted 5 May 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 5 May 2023 (edited) We haven’t signed a good winger for 9 and a half years, I’m wary of our ability to start now EDIT: perhaps harsh on Albrighton, still like 8 and a half Edited 5 May 2023 by theessexfox 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudio Fannieri Posted 5 May 2023 Share Posted 5 May 2023 I would imagine we are currently preparing for both scenario’s, if we stay up and if we were to go down, therefore certain players will be available in the event of us getting relegated and I imagine Barnes would be one. The trouble is because of where we are we are unable to negotiate new contracts with anyone as we cannot make commitments on wages. As soon as it was clear this season was a relegation scrap we lost any opportunity to try and negotiate with players such as Maddison and Barnes. If we can secure 100m+ for Madders and Barnes that will be a decent start in reducing the turnover deficit and will also be a massive chunk of wages off the books too. However we also have to ensure our recruitment is absolutely top drawer to ensure we bounce back 1st time with a squad that has the capability to at least compete in the premier league. This is summer is going to be huge for the club regardless of division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinowe Soorie Posted 5 May 2023 Share Posted 5 May 2023 This is where I would trust Smith, lots of Aston Villa’s squad were brought in by him. Massive squad rebuilding exercise whoever is in charge, and whatever division we are in. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 5 May 2023 Share Posted 5 May 2023 If we stay up we can't let him go. We need a right winger so it doesn't make sense to sell the main left winger too. If we go down I sort of understand it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walkerfox Posted 5 May 2023 Share Posted 5 May 2023 If he isn’t signing a new contract then we have to sell whether we want to or not. We need to learn from our past mistakes. We can’t have another Maddison, Tielemans etc where we don’t make any/enough money from key players. People are constantly forgetting why we’re in the mess we’re in. We need to go back to the model of buy, improve and sell. 60 million gets us 2 or 3 younger players who we can sell on for profit. I understand the worry that it could leave us severely depleted but that’s where our recruitment is key. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Sionnach Posted 5 May 2023 Share Posted 5 May 2023 8 minutes ago, Walkerfox said: If he isn’t signing a new contract then we have to sell whether we want to or not. We need to learn from our past mistakes. We can’t have another Maddison, Tielemans etc where we don’t make any/enough money from key players. People are constantly forgetting why we’re in the mess we’re in. We need to go back to the model of buy, improve and sell. 60 million gets us 2 or 3 younger players who we can sell on for profit. I understand the worry that it could leave us severely depleted but that’s where our recruitment is key. The only player we have added value to recently is Fofana. This so called model is unlikely to work now. Selling key players at the height of their value is never popular with the fans anyway. They screamed blue murder on here about Fofana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafewayFox Posted 5 May 2023 Share Posted 5 May 2023 18 minutes ago, An Sionnach said: The only player we have added value to recently is Fofana. This so called model is unlikely to work now. Selling key players at the height of their value is never popular with the fans anyway. They screamed blue murder on here about Fofana. It most definitely works but our scouting needs a revamp as been far from the lofty heights of previous. Brighton have proven the model works, however, they’ve been a lot more proactive in South America and many other places. Caicedo will go for silly money yet picked him up for peanuts, scarily they have another 3/4 sellable assets too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walkerfox Posted 5 May 2023 Share Posted 5 May 2023 23 minutes ago, An Sionnach said: The only player we have added value to recently is Fofana. This so called model is unlikely to work now. Selling key players at the height of their value is never popular with the fans anyway. They screamed blue murder on here about Fofana. So what should our plan be then? How do we generate transfer funds as a club? Top’s very clearly not willing to put any in. We can’t just hang onto players and let them leave for nothing. We simply won’t be able to compete with anyone in the premier league (case in point, this season!). We’re going to have to improve our recruitment or go down, which we may well be doing anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerry Posted 5 May 2023 Share Posted 5 May 2023 40 minutes ago, Walkerfox said: If he isn’t signing a new contract then we have to sell whether we want to or not. We need to learn from our past mistakes. We can’t have another Maddison, Tielemans etc where we don’t make any/enough money from key players. People are constantly forgetting why we’re in the mess we’re in. We need to go back to the model of buy, improve and sell. 60 million gets us 2 or 3 younger players who we can sell on for profit. I understand the worry that it could leave us severely depleted but that’s where our recruitment is key. Bringing players through from the Academy would help or is that 100 mil spent on the training complex a proverbial white elephant ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walkerfox Posted 5 May 2023 Share Posted 5 May 2023 3 minutes ago, jerry said: Bringing players through from the Academy would help or is that 100 mil spent on the training complex a proverbial white elephant ? No you’re right! That’s exactly what we need to be doing, as well as selling those high value players when we need to. We’re yet to see any evidence of that working though 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafewayFox Posted 5 May 2023 Share Posted 5 May 2023 1 minute ago, Walkerfox said: No you’re right! That’s exactly what we need to be doing, as well as selling those high value players when we need to. We’re yet to see any evidence of that working though Alves and Braybrooke surely need to be fast tracked to first team football or getting a loan to a Championship club (if we stay up). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabfox Posted 5 May 2023 Share Posted 5 May 2023 8 hours ago, Gamble92 said: If we stay up the club are not letting this happen. I can't picture Villa spending £60 million on a player. If they were to then I think their fans would expect it to be on someone a lot more experienced and proven than Harvey Barnes. Yeah agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 5 May 2023 Share Posted 5 May 2023 Torn on this. Like others have said he won't sign another new contract here, and we can't keep letting players walk out the door for free. Then on the other hands he's out top scorer this season despite not having the best season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mee-9 Posted 5 May 2023 Share Posted 5 May 2023 60m. Bloody hell. We'll be doing a Southampton next season, buy lots of new players. Most absolutely shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCFCJohn Posted 5 May 2023 Share Posted 5 May 2023 56 minutes ago, An Sionnach said: The only player we have added value to recently is Fofana. This so called model is unlikely to work now. Selling key players at the height of their value is never popular with the fans anyway. They screamed blue murder on here about Fofana. It will work if players are bought from abroad or young players for lower prices that we develop. Big clubs will always be wanting the next best thing now and will pay. The only way that doesn’t work (if you get the recruitment right) is if players decide to run their contract down. Although this is happening more, there’ll be plenty who still make a big profit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sampson Posted 5 May 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 5 May 2023 (edited) We all know he can be frustrating at times, but wingers who are guaranteed 10-20 goal contributions a season are really rare outside the “big 6”, can’t believe so many genuinely want this to happen. We must’ve spent much more than £60mil including loan fees and wages trying to unsuccessfully replace Mahrez over the years. I get we need to sell but those saying they want this to happen rather than we need it to happen and “id snap your hand off for £60m” are crazy if they think we’ll be easily able to replace his goals and assists for cheaper Edited 5 May 2023 by Sampson 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iancognito Posted 5 May 2023 Share Posted 5 May 2023 1 hour ago, An Sionnach said: They screamed blue murder on here about Fofana. And Chilwell, Maguire, Mahrez ...even Drinkwater. But that's the model. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UniFox21 Posted 5 May 2023 Share Posted 5 May 2023 Is it just agent talk re wanting more money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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