thegaffa Posted 20 August 2022 Share Posted 20 August 2022 This is a big problem, teams will either press him and know he will give the ball away or they will just mark the other players and know that he will only play 10 yard passes that won’t hurt them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsintskaro Posted 20 August 2022 Share Posted 20 August 2022 You cant blame system, manager, "bad form" or enlgand's crap weather for being bellow average footballer for 2+ years. I really was expecting from club to offload him and get Sangare or someone who is physical and good on ball now we are stuck with deadwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fazzer 7 Posted 20 August 2022 Share Posted 20 August 2022 (edited) He's absolute dogshit atm and has been for what feels like 2 seasons tbh. Edited 20 August 2022 by Fazzer 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honeybradger Posted 20 August 2022 Share Posted 20 August 2022 8 minutes ago, Sly said: He’s missing something! Generally our players when he try’s to pass the ball. Passing completion of 85.5%, for reference Dewsbury hall had 68.9% and Tielemans had 73.3%. I dont know why Ndidi is getting the flak today, thought he was one of our better players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sly Posted 20 August 2022 Share Posted 20 August 2022 6 minutes ago, honeybradger said: Passing completion of 85.5%, for reference Dewsbury hall had 68.9% and Tielemans had 73.3%. I dont know why Ndidi is getting the flak today, thought he was one of our better players. I meant in general in fairness. Although, they do operate differently. Easier to pass backwards and let’s be realistic, he’s a beast when employed to do what he’s good at. It would help him if some of our players moved to offer more than one option for a pass at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcfc_forever Posted 20 August 2022 Share Posted 20 August 2022 There’s been questions over his mental toughness - we’ve got too many players who just can’t handle any sign if any pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxyLeon Posted 20 August 2022 Share Posted 20 August 2022 My point was proven again today....Far better without Tielemans. The second Youri came on, we collapsed. Although the football was turgid, and I'd have made the point had we won 1-0, with Ndidi and no Youri we looked far better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phenom Posted 20 August 2022 Share Posted 20 August 2022 He was shit. Constantly beaten and can’t progress the ball forward. His stock probably isn’t very high or I would look to offload before it drops even more. Maybe he’ll improve under a new manager… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimJams Posted 20 August 2022 Share Posted 20 August 2022 His game is winning the ball, and thats it. You need ball winners who don't need to play off the simple pass for the more talented players to progress up the pitch now as everything slows down. Sangare has already had a mention. 3 box to boxers in the middle rather than specialists for me. Makes injuries and recruitment far more straight forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sampson Posted 20 August 2022 Share Posted 20 August 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, FoxyLeon said: My point was proven again today....Far better without Tielemans. The second Youri came on, we collapsed. Although the football was turgid, and I'd have made the point had we won 1-0, with Ndidi and no Youri we looked far better. Mate... come on... Because Tielemans came on, that is what caused Ndidi himself to make an absolute cock up and lose his man to make a pathetic attempt at a header on a set-piece? How does that even make sense? Ndidi would've been marking the same man regardless of whether Tielemans was on or not. We would've conceded that first goal at least regardless and it was Ndidi at fault for it himself. Edited 20 August 2022 by Sampson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrispinLA in Texas Posted 21 August 2022 Share Posted 21 August 2022 Seems to be playing in cruise control, was brilliant his first two years here but now takes it easy not fussed when he plays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frany104 Posted 21 August 2022 Share Posted 21 August 2022 Of all the assets we should be selling it’s Ndidi. has been regressing for 2 years now. Doesn’t deserve his place in the team. Should’ve sold him at his peak value and reinvested with someone like sangare. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filbertway Posted 21 August 2022 Share Posted 21 August 2022 On 20/08/2022 at 16:39, Sampson said: He gets his game as an anchorman in front of a back 4 and is still no better. I just don’t see it. He was brilliant for us for his first 3 seasons or so, and I’ll always love him as a player for what he’s done for us, but it just feels like because of that will people keep blaming the system and making excuses for him and never just admit he’s been poor for us for a long, long time now, regardless of the system. Very concerning how easily Adams accellerated away from him at one point. I can't remember if it was in the lead up to one of the goals, but he looked like he was running through treacle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzie the Fox Posted 21 August 2022 Share Posted 21 August 2022 Was alright in the 1st half, but his passing is just not improving. I'd be playing Mendy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okie fox Posted 21 August 2022 Share Posted 21 August 2022 It wasn't Ndidi's fault that the defence played deep as soon as Southampton woke up and started attacking.. Rodgers made bad substitutions again by taking Vardy and Perez off and we stopped the high press. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sampson Posted 21 August 2022 Share Posted 21 August 2022 13 minutes ago, okie fox said: It wasn't Ndidi's fault that the defence played deep as soon as Southampton woke up and started attacking.. Rodgers made bad substitutions again by taking Vardy and Perez off and we stopped the high press. It was his fault he couldn’t defend a simple corner, which teams get regardless og if they’re dominating or not though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcfc_forever Posted 21 August 2022 Share Posted 21 August 2022 3 minutes ago, Sampson said: It was his fault he couldn’t defend a simple corner, which teams get regardless og if they’re dominating or not though. I remember him misjudging a header vs Liverpool in the league cup that cost us their equaliser. Lots of hindsight bias about Ndidi and Tielemans, and how we should have sold them. Most of us said at the time we need them to stay. There's an art in knowing when to sell. Ferguson rarely got it wrong with when to sell. Except for Stam and Ronaldo (who went for a record fee), I can't think of many other players who went onto do better after leaving Man U when he was in charge. 3 year cycles make sense, we've just got too many players who have it too easy and lost their edge at the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrispinLA in Texas Posted 22 August 2022 Share Posted 22 August 2022 He needs shaking up and told to get his finger his finger out his ass and start playing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Col city fan Posted 22 August 2022 Share Posted 22 August 2022 7 hours ago, CrispinLA in Texas said: He needs shaking up and told to get his finger his finger out his ass and start playing Two fingers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tetly Posted 22 August 2022 Share Posted 22 August 2022 He used to be a beast absolutely brilliant but not anymore it seems. Not sure what happened but him at 100% makes us so much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthStandUpperTier Posted 22 August 2022 Share Posted 22 August 2022 3 minutes ago, pmcla26 said: If Soyuncu isn't going to play and Ndidi's passing is still off, then I don't see any harm in putting Wilf at centre-half instead of Amartey and playing Tielemans, KDH and Maddison as the 3 in the middle (Or Mendy, KDH and Youri with Maddison on the right). Probably not a good idea. In Rodgers' system the centrebacks have way more of the ball and make more passes than any of the other players. Amartey attempted 100 passes against Southampton, most in the team, with Evans having second most pass attempts. Just shows how broken BR's tactics are when the centrebacks have to be your primary playmakers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthStandUpperTier Posted 22 August 2022 Share Posted 22 August 2022 24 minutes ago, pmcla26 said: It's not a great idea, I'll admit, but I'd rather see it than Amartey continue to struggle every week. Soyuncu really needs to play, or Fofana needs to be sold and we get a decent centre-half and winger in. I'd rather Vestergaard starts the next game away at Chelsea than Amartey. He's had his chance and he's failed. Ideally, Soyuncu starts with Evans. I'm not expecting 19/20 levels of performance, but I'm sure he'd be better than what we've had defensively in the last few games. Soyuncu should have been starting all along. Now we are in a position where BR has got to swallow his pride and basically admit he's got it massively wrong. I'll be impressed if his ego allows him to do this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Fox Posted 22 August 2022 Share Posted 22 August 2022 Has the whole Soyuncu thing come about because of the Spurs game? It was poor, absolutely, but Christ alive, Amartey is shocking. I’m sure there must be more to this than that one tackle. His form has dropped, yeah absolutely, but is he really that ‘bad’? Unless he knows Cags isn’t going to give 100% to avoid a potential injury, in which case I would side with Brendan. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowlattsFox Posted 22 August 2022 Share Posted 22 August 2022 Probably of no relevance but Ndidi and Tielemans have not been the same since KDH came into the team Obviously I'm not blaming KDH for this, and there other reasons why the form Ndidi and Tielemans has dropped (injuries, not wanting to be here etc) We were at our best with them 2 and Maddison in front. We have played more of a midfield 3 since KDH came in to the side and not sure it suits either of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveb Posted 22 August 2022 Share Posted 22 August 2022 On 20/08/2022 at 17:34, honeybradger said: Passing completion of 85.5%, for reference Dewsbury hall had 68.9% and Tielemans had 73.3%. I dont know why Ndidi is getting the flak today, thought he was one of our better players. Jesus what tosh, i`m a pensioner and i could stand around doing sod all for 90 minutes other than occasionally, round of applause from idiots, passing the ball 3 foot backwards 3 foot backwards, very good at that, otherwise totally useless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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