Wilfred Ndidi

[Cadno'r Cymoedd]

A prime example of Rodgers mismanagement to put it mildly. Being asked to play counter to his strengths and then Rodgers simply ignores and sidelines Mendy as he has done with others like Soyuncu. The guy is a corrosive, malign influence. He has destroyed this squad. 

Edited 19 September 2022 by Cadno'r Cymoedd

[StanSP]

17 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

I'm convinced that as soon as Rodgers goes and a manager comes in and simplifies our game and tries to restore some confidence and calm and Ndidi, Justin and Vardy improve dramatically. 

100%. Its gonna be a breath of fresh air for everyone. 

Players and fans alike. Rodgers' refusal to adapt or even go back to basics and willingness to overcomplicate things is hindering us. 

[coolhandfox]

1 hour ago, Ric Flair said:

I'm convinced that as soon as Rodgers goes and a manager comes in and simplifies our game and tries to restore some confidence and calm and Ndidi, Justin and Vardy improve dramatically. 

We just need too go back to basics.

 

[notnow john]

Rodger’s. has tried to turn the consummate midfield destroyer into Pirlo,with disastrous results.

 

[sacreblueits442]

On 17/09/2022 at 19:59, SafewayFox said:

But he doesn’t even do “DM” stuff well right now.

 

At one stage, I saw KDH deeper than him when Spurs were about to break out press (was so easy to see) and then he didn’t have the legs to get back in the midst of the trouble.

 

Another player who seems to be broken physically.

.. why is he so far forward,  because he has been  asked to!!!

  All these shortcomings have been there from day one, they did not come to light until Rodgers asked for a different approach to building the game.

  Why do you expect anything else if he is constantly asked to put his weakest game forward, you are always going to have these issues, they will not go away and all his confidence will be draining from him every time he steps on the pitch.

  I would rather see him leave and go to a club prepared to use him as you should, than listen to the constant ridicule being mentioned here.

[Tom12345]

6 hours ago, Cadno'r Cymoedd said:

A prime example of Rodgers mismanagement to put it mildly. Being asked to play counter to his strengths and then Rodgers simply ignores and sidelines Mendy as he has done with others like Soyuncu. The guy is a corrosive, malign influence. He has destroyed this squad. 

Exactly. He insists on playing a certain way but then keep ignoring players best suited to play his way.

[Lambert09]

i’m almost as sick of wilf as i am of rodgers. 

 

Get Papy back in the team !!!

[SafewayFox]

5 hours ago, sacreblueits442 said:

.. why is he so far forward,  because he has been  asked to!!!

  All these shortcomings have been there from day one, they did not come to light until Rodgers asked for a different approach to building the game.

  Why do you expect anything else if he is constantly asked to put his weakest game forward, you are always going to have these issues, they will not go away and all his confidence will be draining from him every time he steps on the pitch.

  I would rather see him leave and go to a club prepared to use him as you should, than listen to the constant ridicule being mentioned here.

I hope that you’re right.

 

I just think the regression of Wilf is also due to his physical attributes letting him down.

 

Watching Spurs’ third goal back, both him and Evans were to blame with the pass being a very lazy one from Evans but Wilf’s lack of ability to recycle the ball further than 2 yards is a glaring issue for me.

[Sampson]

23 minutes ago, SafewayFox said:

I hope that you’re right.

 

I just think the regression of Wilf is also due to his physical attributes letting him down.

 

Watching Spurs’ third goal back, both him and Evans were to blame with the pass being a very lazy one from Evans but Wilf’s lack of ability to recycle the ball further than 2 yards is a glaring issue for me.

I’m the same. Other players I definitely think get hampered by Rodgers’ tactics but with Ndidi I’m not convinced there isn’t more to it than that. Physically to me it looks like injuries have taken their toll. We also have tried him “just sitting in front of the back 4 and mopping up” recently and last season and he didn’t look any better regardless of his passing - constantly gave away fouls and we still conceded goals like a sieve.

 

I’m also not convinced you can rely on a player who can’t pass or control the ball and is 100% a destroyer as a midfielder these days. Feels like an outdated role.

 

He used to do well when we played Maddison much deeper in a 433, but it’s clear we need Maddison much further forward than we used to in a 4231 as he’s our main goal threat.

The squad should be built around getting the best out of Maddison and to a lesser extent Barnes right now (and Vardy if he’s not past it and a new manager can get him going again) and I’m not sure having a player in midfield who can’t pass or control the ball and can’t link up to those forward players really plays in to that.

Edited 19 September 2022 by Sampson

[ronnup]

He's gone to piddle

 

How many players have gone from being absolutely top tier to shite

[cityfanlee23]

4 minutes ago, ronnup said:

He's gone to piddle

 

How many players have gone from being absolutely top tier to shite

I keep banging this drum but I remember when Rodgers took over me and friends sat discussing the squad we had, none of them support Leicester and we all agreed that we had some of the most promising under 25/26 depth in Europe. 
Maddison, Chilwell, Ndidi, Tielemans, Barnes, Pereira, Soyuncu (after Maguire left) The experience of Evans and Vardy. 
We needed a few signings to plug a few gaps but the core of the squad was one with absolutely massive potential. 
 

just a few short seasons later I’m watching these players like Ndidi wondering if he’s actually good enough for a relegation team at this level, it’s actually crazy how far these players have fallen. I’ve no doubt a new manager with a back to basics approach would see huge improvements. 

[Beachyboy]

NDidi has picked up an injury could be a blessing in disguise 

[FoxesWalk]

1 minute ago, Beachyboy said:

NDidi has picked up an injury could be a blessing in disguise 

 

[RedSoxUK]

5 minutes ago, FoxesWalk said:

 

Soooooo you injured or not Ndidi?

[Guest Col city fan]

Wilf is possibly the biggest victim of Rodger’s poor management.

A young player we signed some years ago, with bags of potential, the best stats in the league for tackles won, blocks etc.. now to become an absolute shadow of his former self.

Ndidi is a good player. We know that and we’ve all seen it. And his career has gone off the rails in a big way.

And Rodgers was meant to have a reputation for developing young players.

It’s sad to see tbh

[NaijaFox]

11 hours ago, RedSoxUK said:

Soooooo you injured or not Ndidi?

 

[Matt]

13 hours ago, FoxesWalk said:

 

Imagine playing Wilf at CB.

 

[st albans fox]

13 hours ago, FoxesWalk said:

 

Perfect opportunity to tweet ‘stop to tell bullshit’ ….. then we’d know he was a CB !

[Fox92]

8 hours ago, Col city fan said:

Wilf is possibly the biggest victim of Rodger’s poor management.

A young player we signed some years ago, with bags of potential, the best stats in the league for tackles won, blocks etc.. now to become an absolute shadow of his former self.

Ndidi is a good player. We know that and we’ve all seen it. And his career has gone off the rails in a big way.

And Rodgers was meant to have a reputation for developing young players.

It’s sad to see tbh

Sorry Col, he has dropped off and in general I do agree with you but it's the basics he gets wrong that frustrate me.

His inability to pass to a team mate. How simple is that? Yet I'm constantly seeing him, a top flight player, unable to do it. Same with his control, often it gets him in trouble because it's so poor.

Of course management (including the coaches) have a part to play in player development but the player is responsible for a lot as well and N'didi has not been good enough now for a long time. People just cling onto past seasons with him.

[FoxesWalk]

 

Sounds like he is carrying a minor injury 

[filbertway]

2 hours ago, Fox92 said:

Sorry Col, he has dropped off and in general I do agree with you but it's the basics he gets wrong that frustrate me.

His inability to pass to a team mate. How simple is that? Yet I'm constantly seeing him, a top flight player, unable to do it. Same with his control, often it gets him in trouble because it's so poor.

Of course management (including the coaches) have a part to play in player development but the player is responsible for a lot as well and N'didi has not been good enough now for a long time. People just cling onto past seasons with him.

He couldn't do that stuff in 19/20 though, Wilf has obvious strengths and weaknesses. Yet the manager insists on him playing in such a way that negates his strengths and play to his weaknesses. It's really dumb management.

[Guest Col city fan]

3 hours ago, Fox92 said:

Sorry Col, he has dropped off and in general I do agree with you but it's the basics he gets wrong that frustrate me.

His inability to pass to a team mate. How simple is that? Yet I'm constantly seeing him, a top flight player, unable to do it. Same with his control, often it gets him in trouble because it's so poor.

Of course management (including the coaches) have a part to play in player development but the player is responsible for a lot as well and N'didi has not been good enough now for a long time. People just cling onto past seasons with him.

Can’t argue with any of that mate, but we do see so often how players who look a shadow of themselves bounce back when under a new management/coaching regime. 
Ndidi needs a new arm around him AND to be played in his best position. He’s still relatively young and I think you’d see the best of him if played to his strengths 

[Fox92]

23 hours ago, filbertway said:

He couldn't do that stuff in 19/20 though, Wilf has obvious strengths and weaknesses. Yet the manager insists on him playing in such a way that negates his strengths and play to his weaknesses. It's really dumb management.

 

22 hours ago, Col city fan said:

Can’t argue with any of that mate, but we do see so often how players who look a shadow of themselves bounce back when under a new management/coaching regime. 
Ndidi needs a new arm around him AND to be played in his best position. He’s still relatively young and I think you’d see the best of him if played to his strengths 

I do not disagree with both of you there.

[SafewayFox]

Another injury for Wilf?

 

Genuinely think we need to look at an Ndidi upgrade if we stay up.

 

Physically, he’s clearly on the decline, he can’t cover the grass like he once did and then you add in all of the above comments about his touch, passing he becomes a liability in my eyes.

 

Hate to say it but unless he’s fully fit, shouldn’t be starting for us right now.

 

 

[StanSP]

9 minutes ago, SafewayFox said:

Another injury for Wilf?

 

Genuinely think we need to look at an Ndidi upgrade if we stay up.

 

Physically, he’s clearly on the decline, he can’t cover the grass like he once did and then you add in all of the above comments about his touch, passing he becomes a liability in my eyes.

 

Hate to say it but unless he’s fully fit, shouldn’t be starting for us right now.

 

 

I think because his game has been altered, and being asked to push up further sometimes, has led to this. 

 

He used to be so reliable just covering that defensive/central midfield area. Now he gets caught up with the play sometimes on the edge of the opponent's box and we get countered, then he's out of position.