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1 minute ago, foxile5 said:

The management of the country isn't the time for judging the qualities of government?

 

For the record, though I doubt you'll take it as truth, I'd have been saying this of a Labour government.

 

A lassez faire attitude towards the death of the vulnerable isn't my idea of positive leadership, regardless of the government in situ. And whilst these are sensible steps they don't represent any form of credible plan.

 

If the leadership at this current point was great why are Doctors and specialists in diseases hand wringing about the response, and how come our elected officials are not listening to the experts in the field?

Well we agree on one thing :thumbup:

 

Seriously, the whole situation is of course of great concern. I worry for  y70 year old parents, I worry for my son, my wife.

I do not see any country outside of maybe South Korea who are purported to have differing, progressive actions.

I do not see any blasé response, just a differing set of actions from your own perceived correct actions.

 

Seems Boris is changing his tune (Again, based on expert advice), so let’s see where we go from here_

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1 minute ago, pds said:

So we've got to restrict all social contact as much as possible. But we're leaving the schools open where we come in to close contact with 100s of people every day when dropping the kids off?

Yeah, that's the as much as possible bit eh. 

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4 minutes ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

Scratching my head here - don't go to pubs or restaurants but we aren't closing them.....

 

Work from home where you can but we are not forcing companies to do so....

 

Smells to me like they don't want to make those sort of decisions themselves because then they will be the pointed object of economic strife. Just get some bollocks man. 

Think by the weekend pubs restaurants cinemas etc will be shut 

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1 minute ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

Scratching my head here - don't go to pubs or restaurants but we aren't closing them.....

It’s all about money. Boris has not given assurances to businesses and mortgage payers etc about how the bills will be paid. Mind, no ones gonna take your house or car off you if you’re in isolation because of the virus 

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3 minutes ago, yorkie1999 said:

It’s all about money. Boris has not given assurances to businesses and mortgage payers etc about how the bills will be paid. Mind, no ones gonna take your house or car off you if you’re in isolation because of the virus 

Its not all about the money its about keeping society functioning. what business's are required to keep the basics of the nation running.  

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7 minutes ago, yorkie1999 said:

It’s all about money. Boris has not given assurances to businesses and mortgage payers etc about how the bills will be paid. Mind, no ones gonna take your house or car off you if you’re in isolation because of the virus 

Yeah **** it, I’m not paying again but when they turn up I’ll threaten to cough on them.

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Government are bottle jobs! Don't want to make real decisions - why tell people to avoid pubs, clubs, restaurants etc but not make them close it. - because they are scared that the business owners will come to the government for money. No real decisions made and even with mass gatherings - we will not support but they can go ahead if they want. Again they don't want any backlash therefore not made a decision 

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5 minutes ago, hejammy said:

Government are bottle jobs! Don't want to make real decisions - why tell people to avoid pubs, clubs, restaurants etc but not make them close it. - because they are scared that the business owners will come to the government for money. No real decisions made and even with mass gatherings - we will not support but they can go ahead if they want. Again they don't want any backlash therefore not made a decision 

How could the government bale out every pub restaurant etc in the country though?? They simply have not got the resources to Put money in to all these business 

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5 minutes ago, hejammy said:

Government are bottle jobs! Don't want to make real decisions - why tell people to avoid pubs, clubs, restaurants etc but not make them close it. - because they are scared that the business owners will come to the government for money. No real decisions made and even with mass gatherings - we will not support but they can go ahead if they want. Again they don't want any backlash therefore not made a decision 

They don't have to be heavy handed yet.  They could if they wanted to but they were saying that they think the British public are grown up enough to understand why (They're not).  Ultimately if 80% of people comply then the pubs, clubs and restaurants will have to close anyway.  Those that don't will be labelled as irresponsible and will suffer massive reputational harm.

 

This is the beginning of a very difficult time for a lot of people and businesses.  It will be like this for a long time.  My heart goes out to the business owners and staff who will lose their jobs.

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27 minutes ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

Scratching my head here - don't go to pubs or restaurants but we aren't closing them.....

 

Work from home where you can but we are not forcing companies to do so....

 

Smells to me like they don't want to make those sort of decisions themselves because then they will be the pointed object of economic strife. Just get some bollocks man and just be clearer. 

They're setting themselves up to end up with off on their faces. In two days time they'll be back out to announce that they're forcibly closing places so why not just do it

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Watched the press conference. 

 

Whitty and Vallance (sounds like a law firm!) were quite clear on their knowledge and expertise and their grasp on how this virus moves around. 

 

Johnson just seemed to waffle. For all the direction W & V showed, Johnson negated it with a lack of one. 

 

I don't find myself coming away from it with any idea or trust from them that the government know exactly what they're doing. Let's tell people to stay at home but not shut pubs/clubs/theatres etc. Look at how the public are acting in supermarkets. Generally, we cannot be trusted. And he said if people are going to breach the 14-day isolation then they are ready to bring in criminal enforcement/powers. But how? Or when? 

 

Vallance said were 3 weeks behind Italy but I can't see what we're putting in to action to prevent us reaching the stage that Italy would have got to in 3 weeks time from this stage. We're not physically shutting socially active places, just leaving it up to public to voluntarily act. In readiness for them (the government) to be absolved from blame if it goes tits up?

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6 minutes ago, lestajigs said:

How could the government bale out every pub restaurant etc in the country though?? They simply have not got the resources to Put money in to all these business 

I'm not saying they should, I'm saying they are giving mixed messages. "don't go to these places but we'll keep them open incase someone does want to go" give the business a deal - eg not have to pay business rates etc not to open. It would cost them more to stay open with wages, bills etc if they don't have any customers. Just a cop out from the government watching their own back 

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8 minutes ago, nnfox said:

They don't have to be heavy handed yet.  They could if they wanted to but they were saying that they think the British public are grown up enough to understand why (They're not).  Ultimately if 80% of people comply then the pubs, clubs and restaurants will have to close anyway.  Those that don't will be labelled as irresponsible and will suffer massive reputational harm.

 

This is the beginning of a very difficult time for a lot of people and businesses.  It will be like this for a long time.  My heart goes out to the business owners and staff who will lose their jobs.

Exactly, so they are leaving the responsibility (and consequences) to the business. Rather than take that responsibility themselves and help them out in whatever way they can 

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Did I hear right that anyone who should have the flu jab needs to wank them selves silly, I mean social isolate for 3 months?

 

I’ve got asthma and I’m not sure if there were just talking about heart conditions etc.

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