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Carl the Llama

Carl the Llama

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3 hours ago, Bellend Sebastian said:

More fun GB News news (if it were an update on news about GB News, would it be GB News news news? We could be here a while if we're not careful):

 

https://bylinetimes.com/2021/09/13/poll-position-survey-on-gb-news-bias-reveals-bias/

 

 

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The Fox Covert

The Fox Covert

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46 minutes ago, Bellend Sebastian said:

It's a thing! Who knew? Not me, thanks for introducing me to something that's BOUND to come in useful

Who gives a to55 about GB News? The only hope they ever had was Andrew Neil. A complete git but admittedly a good journalist. GB News must be the first news channel to actually be recorded as having NO LISTENERS during the daytime. It's like a football team which is so bad they have lost every match in their entire existence.

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5 hours ago, Bellend Sebastian said:

More fun GB News news (if it were an update on news about GB News, would it be GB News news news? We could be here a while if we're not careful):

 

https://bylinetimes.com/2021/09/13/poll-position-survey-on-gb-news-bias-reveals-bias/

 

 

Loved this bit lol

 

Byline Times showed the figures to a veteran and respected British pollster (who asked not to be named). He said: “This is a poll designed to support a campaign, not to discover the true state of public opinion.”

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It's not easy running a right-wing media channel without it going a long way past what the British people have come to expect. People hate right-wing speakers on television. On the other hand, ask them to form a government and they will vote for Boris Johnson. There must be some disconnect between the BBC, ITV and Sky News and the electorate.

 

I would guess it is because right-wingers take the news with a pinch of salt (which is the right way to take it), and left-wingers who also take the news with a pinch of salt but are happy with the way it's delivered - lots of humanitarian ideas, the idealisation of black people and lgbtq people and a general contempt for the government, which does deserve a certain amount of contempt, it must be said, but they are dealing with a pandemic which would screw any government.

 

Take, for example, revenge porn. The average right-winger couldn't give a toss about revenge porn. They would say that this generation ought to know enough about the internet by now to absolutely forbid any attempt to take their picture while naked or otherwise in a compromising situation, and if they don't know they will learn the hard way. The average right-winger will also realise that there is no point in discussing this except with other right-wingers, because it certainly won't be featured on the news, which would have various contributors who are prepared to say that their lives have been blighted to the point where they've seriously thought about committing suicide, which would then be followed by Lisa Nandy wishing all kinds of hell on the providers, the government for enabling the providers and what Labour would do in the unlikely event of them winning a general election. The government would play along with this, make the right noises to enable one of their spokespeople to go on the BBC without being savaged on all fronts other than the electorate, who don't count for some reason because they are thick.

 

I was against the prospect of GB News from the beginning, and I am really glad to see it failing. I don't expect any change from the BBC, ITV and Sky News (which oddly enough is worse than the BBC), but most people have learnt their way around this. I think the majority of people are quite happy to have the Chinese government pilloried for it's treatment of the Uyghurs as long as they don't have to do anything about it. We don't need a right-wing media channel.      

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14 minutes ago, thursday_next said:

It's not easy running a right-wing media channel without it going a long way past what the British people have come to expect. People hate right-wing speakers on television. On the other hand, ask them to form a government and they will vote for Boris Johnson. There must be some disconnect between the BBC, ITV and Sky News and the electorate.

 

I would guess it is because right-wingers take the news with a pinch of salt (which is the right way to take it), and left-wingers who also take the news with a pinch of salt but are happy with the way it's delivered - lots of humanitarian ideas, the idealisation of black people and lgbtq people and a general contempt for the government, which does deserve a certain amount of contempt, it must be said, but they are dealing with a pandemic which would screw any government.

 

Take, for example, revenge porn. The average right-winger couldn't give a toss about revenge porn. They would say that this generation ought to know enough about the internet by now to absolutely forbid any attempt to take their picture while naked or otherwise in a compromising situation, and if they don't know they will learn the hard way. The average right-winger will also realise that there is no point in discussing this except with other right-wingers, because it certainly won't be featured on the news, which would have various contributors who are prepared to say that their lives have been blighted to the point where they've seriously thought about committing suicide, which would then be followed by Lisa Nandy wishing all kinds of hell on the providers, the government for enabling the providers and what Labour would do in the unlikely event of them winning a general election. The government would play along with this, make the right noises to enable one of their spokespeople to go on the BBC without being savaged on all fronts other than the electorate, who don't count for some reason because they are thick.

 

I was against the prospect of GB News from the beginning, and I am really glad to see it failing. I don't expect any change from the BBC, ITV and Sky News (which oddly enough is worse than the BBC), but most people have learnt their way around this. I think the majority of people are quite happy to have the Chinese government pilloried for it's treatment of the Uyghurs as long as they don't have to do anything about it. We don't need a right-wing media channel.      

Interesting contribution, but I'm thinking about this part in particular.

 

I don't want to misrepresent what you said here, however, so would you mind unpacking what you mean about the bolded a bit more or is it just as simple as "bad people will always do bad things, caveat emptor" in your opinion?

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thursday_next

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5 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

Interesting contribution, but I'm thinking about this part in particular.

 

I don't want to misrepresent what you said here, however, so would you mind unpacking what you mean about the bolded a bit more or is it just as simple as "bad people will always do bad things, caveat emptor" in your opinion?

I have no wish to declare myself an authority on what right-wing people think, I can only go by the impressions I get from the ones I know. I would say that rather than 'bad people will always do bad things' (which is a given, despite your belief in the perfectibility of man!), but 'stupid people will always do stupid things' is nearer the point. I've no doubt that many right-wingers are totally opposed to revenge porn and would do what they can to prevent it. It's an overview that I am trying to present. I realise that to fully cover this point I would have to write a book which no-one would ever read. 

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13 minutes ago, thursday_next said:

I have no wish to declare myself an authority on what right-wing people think, I can only go by the impressions I get from the ones I know. I would say that rather than 'bad people will always do bad things' (which is a given, despite your belief in the perfectibility of man!), but 'stupid people will always do stupid things' is nearer the point. I've no doubt that many right-wingers are totally opposed to revenge porn and would do what they can to prevent it. It's an overview that I am trying to present. I realise that to fully cover this point I would have to write a book which no-one would ever read. 

Fair enough.

 

Personally, I'd posit that education and actually holding those who purvey revenge porn more accountable would be exactly the way to prevent it.

 

I don't believe that man can ever really be perfect, but I do think that we can always improve - and we should always be looking to do that and adapt too.

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I've said all I've wanted to say about the grifter central GB News and it's investors trying to profit from right-wing hate.

 

However what I will say is that maybe one of the reasons it's failing is because most people just don't, you know, want that kind of depressing bile 24/7. Most people enter their echo chamber on Facebook, or Twitter or other websites where they can get outraged at all and sundry.

 

Do these people want to spend their whole evening, whole weekend watching GB News to (probably) see the same stories regurgitated and have right-wing voices enable their already-enabled views? I'm not sure. I think most people want to watch a documentary, a good comedy, maybe a film, a bit of sport or maybe even go out in their downtime, when they're not working or scrolling their phone to get angry.

 

I think GB News has failed because it's entered the hate market too late, tbh.

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3 hours ago, leicsmac said:

Remembering the OP, this is what it turned out to be about, I think.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-58564837

 

Just whipping them out for another dick size contest.

"That fella from down under" Leader of the free world forgetting the name of the corrupt marketing man that is our PM.

Safe hands with these three lol

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18 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-58582573

 

And the heavily implied other competitor in the dick size contest of course gets involved.

No idea what the best policy is with China, but I instinctively feel that Australia should stay out of these dick swinging contests. For a long time Aus has walked a thin line between China and the US, managing to keep good trading relations. Morrison seems intent on poking the bear at every opportunity though.

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leicsmac

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9 minutes ago, WigstonWanderer said:

No idea what the best policy is with China, but I instinctively feel that Australia should stay out of these dick swinging contests. For a long time Aus has walked a thin line between China and the US, managing to keep good trading relations. Morrison seems intent on poking the bear at every opportunity though.

Yep. Anyone sane should be staying out of these aforementioned contests.

 

Still Morrison has shown from his climate policy alone that he's not particularly interested in sane long term planning.

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I think nationally security is balancing on a knifes edge at the moment, probably more so than usual. I don’t know why, but I just get the feeling there’s going to be a major incident over the next few years which will be the result of some kind of showcasing of military capacity. 
 

I just think the fall out from the pandemic and the realisation we’ve got the change the way we live to save the planet will be more than some are willing to take. There seems to be a lot of tension bubbling away again, and a few political hand grenades have already been thrown. 

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15 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

I think nationally security is balancing on a knifes edge at the moment, probably more so than usual. I don’t know why, but I just get the feeling there’s going to be a major incident over the next few years which will be the result of some kind of showcasing of military capacity. 
 

I just think the fall out from the pandemic and the realisation we’ve got the change the way we live to save the planet will be more than some are willing to take. There seems to be a lot of tension bubbling away again, and a few political hand grenades have already been thrown. 

I've thought for some time that the increasing pressures of climate change on food, potable water and other vital resources has the potential to result in an extremely nasty flashpoint between nations. Humans following the evolutionary playbook even though they know exactly how that book ends.

 

I hope, perhaps more than anything I've ever hoped for before, that I'm wrong.

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14 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

I think nationally security is balancing on a knifes edge at the moment, probably more so than usual. I don’t know why, but I just get the feeling there’s going to be a major incident over the next few years which will be the result of some kind of showcasing of military capacity. 
 

I just think the fall out from the pandemic and the realisation we’ve got the change the way we live to save the planet will be more than some are willing to take. There seems to be a lot of tension bubbling away again, and a few political hand grenades have already been thrown. 

Talking of showcasing their military might i'm surprised no one has mentioned the biggest tool of all, it was only 2 days ago.

 

https://news.sky.com/story/zapad-2021-russia-showcases-military-might-with-massive-series-of-drills-alongside-belarus-forces-12407356

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