leicsmac Posted 6 December 2021 Share Posted 6 December 2021 41 minutes ago, SO1 said: The leaders of my country are absolutely nuts. War with Russia will not be like war with Iraq. For me the Russians are the only ones left with some sanity. One thing I know for sure is that the Russians will not start it. Propaganda 24/7 just like last time and the last and the last..... https://www.moonofalabama.org/2021/12/us-intelligence-has-found-easy-to-disprove-claims-of-a-russian-attack-on-ukraine.html War with Russia would be utterly insane, because every sane person would know exactly how it ends. It's all sabre-rattling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon the Hat Posted 6 December 2021 Share Posted 6 December 2021 40 minutes ago, SO1 said: The leaders of my country are absolutely nuts. War with Russia will not be like war with Iraq. For me the Russians are the only ones left with some sanity. One thing I know for sure is that the Russians will not start it. Propaganda 24/7 just like last time and the last and the last..... https://www.moonofalabama.org/2021/12/us-intelligence-has-found-easy-to-disprove-claims-of-a-russian-attack-on-ukraine.html You mean the Russia who has troops in Ukraine? That Russia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heathrow fox Posted 6 December 2021 Share Posted 6 December 2021 2 hours ago, leicsmac said: War with Russia would be utterly insane, because every sane person would know exactly how it ends. It's all sabre-rattling. Let’s hope both side’s have remembered the art of withdrawing from the brink,without losing face.It’s been a while Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heathrow fox Posted 6 December 2021 Share Posted 6 December 2021 3 hours ago, SO1 said: The leaders of my country are absolutely nuts. War with Russia will not be like war with Iraq. For me the Russians are the only ones left with some sanity. One thing I know for sure is that the Russians will not start it. Propaganda 24/7 just like last time and the last and the last..... https://www.moonofalabama.org/2021/12/us-intelligence-has-found-easy-to-disprove-claims-of-a-russian-attack-on-ukraine.html I’m no expert on this situation, but I do seem to remember a democratically elected government being overthrown somewhere along the line.With US and EU support.The sort of uprising that usually gets outright condemnation on these pages. As for propaganda,Just one small example.Scroll back a ton of pages and there are posts claiming that Britain could not only take on China militarily,but beat them.On our own FFS Yes I’m ready for a barrage of bullshit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieG Posted 6 December 2021 Share Posted 6 December 2021 No wonder the world is a **** up! "Merry Christmas! ps. Santa, please bring ammo". Thomas Massie's photo was posted on Twitter a few days after a Michigan school shooting left four students dead Kentucky's Republican representative, Thomas Massie posted a Christmas photograph of his family posing with military-style rifles, just days after a deadly school shooting 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SO1 Posted 6 December 2021 Share Posted 6 December 2021 5 hours ago, Heathrow fox said: I’m no expert on this situation, but I do seem to remember a democratically elected government being overthrown somewhere along the line.With US and EU support.The sort of uprising that usually gets outright condemnation on these pages. As for propaganda,Just one small example.Scroll back a ton of pages and there are posts claiming that Britain could not only take on China militarily,but beat them.On our own FFS Yes I’m ready for a barrage of bullshit. Its endless the ignorance. I'm waiting for the reason that Nato has been banging(color revolutions) on their border since the USSR broke up(after it promised not to). The Ukraine is in the process of becoming a failed state and the only thing Russia wants to do is to protect the Donbass(mostly native Russian speakers). The last thing Russia wants to do is acquire a failed state that the US/Nato have trashed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SO1 Posted 6 December 2021 Share Posted 6 December 2021 8 hours ago, Jon the Hat said: You mean the Russia who has troops in Ukraine? That Russia? A bit more complicated than that isn't it? First there's the Minsk Agreements which have in no way been honored by the Ukrainian government. Then there's the Ukrainian government attacking their own people(Russian speakers). One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter and so on... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minsk_Protocol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SO1 Posted 6 December 2021 Share Posted 6 December 2021 6 hours ago, Heathrow fox said: Let’s hope both side’s have remembered the art of withdrawing from the brink,without losing face.It’s been a while Somehow Russia losing 27 million people in WWII has made an impact. The US and Nato not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 6 December 2021 Share Posted 6 December 2021 7 hours ago, Heathrow fox said: Let’s hope both side’s have remembered the art of withdrawing from the brink,without losing face.It’s been a while Hopefully there are enough people involved who have a true understanding of what escalation means, yes. 15 minutes ago, SO1 said: Somehow Russia losing 27 million people in WWII has made an impact. The US and Nato not so much. I remember seeing the below picture on a postboard in an Irkutsk coffee shop when I was there in 2016. If only more people thought this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpacedX Posted 6 December 2021 Share Posted 6 December 2021 1 minute ago, leicsmac said: Hopefully there are enough people involved who have a true understanding of what escalation means, yes. I remember seeing the below picture on a postboard in an Irkutsk coffee shop when I was there in 2016. If only more people thought this way. Christ, that would be cold this time of year. I take it you were there in the summer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 6 December 2021 Share Posted 6 December 2021 Just now, Line-X said: Christ, that would be cold this time of year. I take it you were there in the summer? It was September, so a decent temperature all round. Lake Baikal was a sight to behold. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiberalFox Posted 6 December 2021 Share Posted 6 December 2021 I didn't know there were so many Tankies on FT. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SO1 Posted 6 December 2021 Share Posted 6 December 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, LiberalFox said: I didn't know there were so many Tankies on FT. Tankies? Edited 6 December 2021 by SO1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Falling Foxes Posted 6 December 2021 Share Posted 6 December 2021 Slipped through the news. At least it did for me. I've now read of two different approaches recently, that determined a new possible location and both produced similar results Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SexyGammonFox Posted 6 December 2021 Share Posted 6 December 2021 9 hours ago, LiberalFox said: I didn't know there were so many Tankies on FT. You know when a thread has gone quite a long way to the left when you start to ask yourself whether Stalin or Trotsky won the argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 7 December 2021 Share Posted 7 December 2021 2 hours ago, SexyGammonFox said: You know when a thread has gone quite a long way to the left when you start to ask yourself whether Stalin or Trotsky won the argument. TBH I think the icepick incident makes that one rather obvious. In any case, regarding the issue itself; everyone involved needs to frankly calm the fvck down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozleicester Posted 7 December 2021 Share Posted 7 December 2021 I know its just little old Australia but... Currently our PM (unquestionably leader of the most corrupt Gvt in our history) is begging a state leader, who had to step down due to a corruption investigation, to be a member of his party for the next election. He has refused to introduce a federal corruption watchdog and has lost more ministers to allegations and corruption than ever before and now accuses the independent commission of being corrupt. Fvck me this is Trump level bullshit. https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/dec/07/legal-experts-condemn-scott-morrisons-continuing-attacks-on-icac-as-disgraceful-and-stupid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon the Hat Posted 7 December 2021 Share Posted 7 December 2021 58 minutes ago, ozleicester said: I know its just little old Australia but... Currently our PM (unquestionably leader of the most corrupt Gvt in our history) is begging a state leader, who had to step down due to a corruption investigation, to be a member of his party for the next election. He has refused to introduce a federal corruption watchdog and has lost more ministers to allegations and corruption than ever before and now accuses the independent commission of being corrupt. Fvck me this is Trump level bullshit. https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/dec/07/legal-experts-condemn-scott-morrisons-continuing-attacks-on-icac-as-disgraceful-and-stupid Its not surprise he doesn't care that she may have inappropriately awarded grants to Maguire's constituency. The man has literally no discernible moral compass. Its a close run thing whether he or Boris is more of a twat. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WigstonWanderer Posted 7 December 2021 Share Posted 7 December 2021 4 hours ago, Jon the Hat said: Its not surprise he doesn't care that she may have inappropriately awarded grants to Maguire's constituency. The man has literally no discernible moral compass. Its a close run thing whether he or Boris is more of a twat. I see you’ve quickly got your bearings in Aussie politics. Took me much longer. Really hope this place doesn’t end up following the US down the rabbit hole. I don’t think it will as most Aussies are actually quite sensible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 7 December 2021 Share Posted 7 December 2021 https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-59549868 What a clusterfvck. But then given the timetable and resources available, it would have been very difficult for it not to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 7 December 2021 Share Posted 7 December 2021 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-59526098 The Dems really don't do themselves any favours when they have the power they need to evoke real, meaningful change and simply squander it through petty infighting. The Repubs may be packed to the rafters with religious fundies, cryptofascists and their enablers, but most of the time they do get stuff done when they say they will. Not that that's necessarily a good thing, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpacedX Posted 7 December 2021 Share Posted 7 December 2021 https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/magazines/panache/ceo-fires-900-employees-on-a-three-minute-zoom-call-says-this-is-the-second-time-im-doing-this-in-my-career/articleshow/88120692.cms?from=mdr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 7 December 2021 Share Posted 7 December 2021 6 minutes ago, Line-X said: https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/magazines/panache/ceo-fires-900-employees-on-a-three-minute-zoom-call-says-this-is-the-second-time-im-doing-this-in-my-career/articleshow/88120692.cms?from=mdr There's a thread about fourteen threads below this one on GC in which this bloke would be better suited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpacedX Posted 7 December 2021 Share Posted 7 December 2021 Just now, leicsmac said: There's a thread about fourteen threads below this one on GC in which this bloke would be better suited. I know - as bad as it is, I just didn't feel it warranted being alongside the current level of cuntery in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 7 December 2021 Share Posted 7 December 2021 2 minutes ago, Line-X said: I know - as bad as it is, I just didn't feel it warranted being alongside the current level of cuntery in there. True enough. Doesn't belong with child abusers and politicians looking to turn race and gender relations back to before the 1950s, I guess. But pretty nasty in its own way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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