leicsmac Posted 3 May 2022 Share Posted 3 May 2022 3 minutes ago, Lionator said: Agreed with this, I’m of the left but Le Pen’s economic policies were far more appealing to me than Macron’s whereas a lot of her social policies felt abhorrent to me. And therein lies the issue when people prioritise economic issues over social or scientific ones. It's a very human thing to do, but... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnaldo Posted 3 May 2022 Share Posted 3 May 2022 1 hour ago, leicsmac said: And therein lies the issue when people prioritise economic issues over social or scientific ones. It's a very human thing to do, but... Given the current economic climate a lot of people don’t have the luxury to decide if they get to be ‘a little worse off’ for ‘the greater good’, it’s amazing to see Centrist Macron in France and Centrist Biden in the US not get this. Sure in both those countries and our own, Corbyn-esque mandates have failed, but the complete and utter lack of economic flair will be their downfall and bring about a lot worse governments down the line as a result. I fear the same out of a Starmer government at this point based on some of the noises coming out of Labour at the minute, so utterly terrified of not looking 100% electable across the aisle they’ll end up sitting on their hands, and they should they get elected they’ll have a lot of legacy issues from the current lot they’d inevitably get blamed for not sorting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionator Posted 3 May 2022 Share Posted 3 May 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, leicsmac said: And therein lies the issue when people prioritise economic issues over social or scientific ones. It's a very human thing to do, but... It’s just a flaw of democratic systems in general right? If I were French I’d have voted for Melenchon but they had two choices essentially. In a final run off, I think my moral compass would’ve overcome my economic thought process but I cant blame people who went the other way especially during such a difficult economic period. Edited 3 May 2022 by Lionator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 3 May 2022 Share Posted 3 May 2022 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Finnaldo said: Given the current economic climate a lot of people don’t have the luxury to decide if they get to be ‘a little worse off’ for ‘the greater good’, it’s amazing to see Centrist Macron in France and Centrist Biden in the US not get this. Sure in both those countries and our own, Corbyn-esque mandates have failed, but the complete and utter lack of economic flair will be their downfall and bring about a lot worse governments down the line as a result. I fear the same out of a Starmer government at this point based on some of the noises coming out of Labour at the minute, so utterly terrified of not looking 100% electable across the aisle they’ll end up sitting on their hands, and they should they get elected they’ll have a lot of legacy issues from the current lot they’d inevitably get blamed for not sorting. 25 minutes ago, Lionator said: It’s just a flaw of democratic systems in general right? If I were French I’d have voted for Melenchon but they had two choices essentially. In a final run off, I think my moral compass would’ve overcome my economic thought process but I can blame people who went the other way especially during such a difficult economic period. I hear you both, just a couple of observations: As per above, I understand people voting with their wallets. That doesn't mean that they shouldn't be held responsible for the non-economic consequences of a government like Le Pen that they voted in - and there would be consequences. And the fear about something "much worse" coming down the line because Biden and Macron (among others) are too grey and centrist is salient too, but I wish there were a better choice at the present time than between them and the "worse" (as opposed to the "much worse"). The neofascists are already knocking on the door in a lot of places and in some places they've already been let in. There's no doubt the centrists need to move better on economic policy, but... Edited 3 May 2022 by leicsmac 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 3 May 2022 Share Posted 3 May 2022 Oh, and Stateside this SC decision has the power to affect access to birth control as well as abortion. So not only will women in red states be unable to access abortion where needed, they won't even be able to get (insured) birth control if they want/need to either - perhaps even where it's medically necessary. Referring to the above, I'm sure it could get "much worse", but it's already looking pretty bad. And that's with a Dem President. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jattdogg Posted 4 May 2022 Share Posted 4 May 2022 Greatest country in the world....fukkk offff Tsk tsk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 4 May 2022 Share Posted 4 May 2022 And it won't stop at Roe v Wade either. Obergefell v Hodges will be targetted for the same reasons. I said this when Trump was first elected as a consequence of his presidency (being able to stack the Supreme Court). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 4 May 2022 Share Posted 4 May 2022 One more observation on the above: Say what you like about the American right-wingers, but they are extremely good at leveraging what they have to get what they want. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozleicester Posted 4 May 2022 Share Posted 4 May 2022 20 hours ago, yorkie1999 said: Surprise Surprise, BP's profits have risen 2 billion dollars in the first quarter. Wonder how that happened? It's almost like the corporations matter more than people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Innovindil Posted 4 May 2022 Share Posted 4 May 2022 The images of Dave Chapelle's "attacker" are exactly what should happen to people who try to pull a Will Smith. Dumb shits. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian Joachim Jr Shabadoo Posted 4 May 2022 Share Posted 4 May 2022 28 minutes ago, Innovindil said: The images of Dave Chapelle's "attacker" are exactly what should happen to people who try to pull a Will Smith. Dumb shits. That arm isn't doing any more tackling any time soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaphamFox Posted 4 May 2022 Share Posted 4 May 2022 27 minutes ago, Innovindil said: The images of Dave Chapelle's "attacker" are exactly what should happen to people who try to pull a Will Smith. Dumb shits. I'm no doctor, but I'm fairly sure a human arm shouldn't be in this position... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thefox81 Posted 4 May 2022 Share Posted 4 May 2022 16 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said: I'm no doctor, but I'm fairly sure a human arm shouldn't be in this position... He'll probably sue and get a multi million dollar payout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zear0 Posted 4 May 2022 Share Posted 4 May 2022 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaphamFox Posted 4 May 2022 Share Posted 4 May 2022 3 minutes ago, Thefox81 said: He'll probably sue and get a multi million dollar payout. If the media reports that he was carrying a knife and a gun are accurate, I doubt it. In fact, he should probably count himself lucky that all he got was an injured arm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 4 May 2022 Share Posted 4 May 2022 1 hour ago, Innovindil said: The images of Dave Chapelle's "attacker" are exactly what should happen to people who try to pull a Will Smith. Dumb shits. Surprised it only took a month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jattdogg Posted 4 May 2022 Share Posted 4 May 2022 Chris rock with the "was that will smith comment" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asha Posted 4 May 2022 Share Posted 4 May 2022 Yeah well who is surprised, honestly. Will Smith made it 'cool' to go on stage and just hit people when you feel like it with barely any repercussions. This will happen more and more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinman Posted 4 May 2022 Share Posted 4 May 2022 Hand of God shirt has sold for $8.9M. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellend Sebastian Posted 4 May 2022 Share Posted 4 May 2022 I see things like this and wonder if anyone does any sort of research before launching these ridiculous vanity projects, and then remember that just because there are lots of people who loudly claim that there needs to be more right wing media to counter the wokerati agenda or some bollocks they've read about in the right wing media of all places, they've not committed to actually consuming it, because they know deep down that tuning in is the very worst waste of their time: https://www.theguardian.com/media/2022/may/04/piers-morgan-ratings-dive-as-talktv-struggles-to-attract-viewers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parafox Posted 4 May 2022 Share Posted 4 May 2022 8 hours ago, ClaphamFox said: I'm no doctor, but I'm fairly sure a human arm shouldn't be in this position... My first reaction... that looks alike a fracture dislocation of the right shoulder to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 8 May 2022 Share Posted 8 May 2022 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-61367797 This is fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymsey Posted 10 May 2022 Share Posted 10 May 2022 Ongoing incident on Welford Road car park. Reports state someone is threatening to hurt himself. https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/leicester-news/live-updates-two-roads-city-7063198 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Oxlong Posted 10 May 2022 Share Posted 10 May 2022 https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/lyon-marcelo-contract-farting-laughing-26921074.amp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Posted 11 May 2022 Share Posted 11 May 2022 (edited) https://www.leics.police.uk/news/leicestershire/news/2022/may/help-needed-to-locate-twins-missing-from-mountsorrel/ Two girls been missing from Mountsorrel since late Saturday night…. Edited 11 May 2022 by Bert 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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