Leicester_Loyal Posted 14 July 2022 Share Posted 14 July 2022 5 hours ago, nnfox said: How many prisons would you have to build if the custodial bar was so low that you threw everyone in jail for being nearly twice over the limit on their first conviction? Not just being twice over the limit though is it, he's drove a clearly dangerous vehicle for at least 10 miles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taupe Posted 14 July 2022 Share Posted 14 July 2022 19 hours ago, Webbo said: There's a car transporter on fire at the Hobby Horse roundabout. Sounds like a line from a HMHB song. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Falling Foxes Posted 14 July 2022 Share Posted 14 July 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, taupe said: Sounds like a line from a HMHB song. Very good. A job for Pugh, Pugh,......you know the rest. Edited 14 July 2022 by Free Falling Foxes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Falling Foxes Posted 14 July 2022 Share Posted 14 July 2022 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-62162300 Dear Bill, Any chance of slipping a few bob my way? Btw. Windows is brill. FFF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soup Posted 14 July 2022 Share Posted 14 July 2022 Well done to the Dutch farmers, I hope they keep it up. https://nypost.com/2022/07/12/good-for-dutch-farmers-for-fighting-back-against-a-govt-bowing-to-enviro-radicals/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 14 July 2022 Share Posted 14 July 2022 14 minutes ago, Soup said: Well done to the Dutch farmers, I hope they keep it up. https://nypost.com/2022/07/12/good-for-dutch-farmers-for-fighting-back-against-a-govt-bowing-to-enviro-radicals/ ...is there anything about this story other than the feelgood "little guy sticks it to the big bad government" factor that is worth the "well done"? I'm just thinking that runaway nitrate pollution in the name of short-term financial gain (even for the aforementioned "little guy") isn't all that laudable. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soup Posted 14 July 2022 Share Posted 14 July 2022 9 minutes ago, leicsmac said: ...is there anything about this story other than the feelgood "little guy sticks it to the big bad government" factor that is worth the "well done"? I'm just thinking that runaway nitrate pollution in the name of short-term financial gain (even for the aforementioned "little guy") isn't all that laudable. Not a fan of the little man are you. Power to the elites yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 14 July 2022 Share Posted 14 July 2022 1 minute ago, Soup said: Not a fan of the little man are you. Power to the elites yeah. Au contraire, I'm a big fan of the "little man". And a really good thing for such people in this case would be ability to be able to carry on their business and make money for the long term - and for their children to do so if they wish - rather than having to abandon it as poisoned, no longer arable wasteland. Looking just a little bit ahead, you understand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soup Posted 14 July 2022 Share Posted 14 July 2022 1 minute ago, leicsmac said: Looking just a little bit ahead, you understand. Why the rush though? Seems to me as if it could be phased out over a longer period. It's a two finger stick up to real working people again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 14 July 2022 Share Posted 14 July 2022 14 minutes ago, Soup said: Why the rush though? Seems to me as if it could be phased out over a longer period. It's a two finger stick up to real working people again. Guess it depends on whether the local ecology can withstand such a longer-term phasing out. https://www.science.org/content/article/nitrogen-crisis-jam-packed-livestock-operations-has-paralyzed-dutch-economy "In 118 of 162 Dutch nature reserves, nitrogen deposits now exceed ecological risk thresholds by an average of 50%. In dunes, bogs, and heathlands, home to species adapted to a lack of nitrogen, plant diversity has decreased as nitrogen-loving grasses, shrubs, and trees move in. Heathlands are turning green-gray as invasive grasses overwhelm the purple heather and yellows and blues of small herbaceous flowering plants..." That one passage notwithstanding, this article does give a pretty well-balanced look at what is going on over there right now. Hopefully a compromise - possibly involving "circular farming" - can be reached. The government has an obligation to help these farmers, it's true, but it also has an obligation to other groups and future generations by protecting the ecology of the country it governs. A balance needs to be sought. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soup Posted 14 July 2022 Share Posted 14 July 2022 4 minutes ago, leicsmac said: Guess it depends on whether the local ecology can withstand such a longer-term phasing out. https://www.science.org/content/article/nitrogen-crisis-jam-packed-livestock-operations-has-paralyzed-dutch-economy "In 118 of 162 Dutch nature reserves, nitrogen deposits now exceed ecological risk thresholds by an average of 50%. In dunes, bogs, and heathlands, home to species adapted to a lack of nitrogen, plant diversity has decreased as nitrogen-loving grasses, shrubs, and trees move in. Heathlands are turning green-gray as invasive grasses overwhelm the purple heather and yellows and blues of small herbaceous flowering plants..." That one passage notwithstanding, this article does give a pretty well-balanced look at what is going on over there right now. Hopefully a compromise - possibly involving "circular farming" - can be reached. The government has an obligation to help these farmers, it's true, but it also has an obligation to other groups and future generations by protecting the ecology of the country it governs. A balance needs to be sought. Good points as per. Let's hope they do reach an agreement then. It seems nowadays that the.powers that be just flex their muscle's without hesitation. This concerns me as much as climate change concerns you. Just to add climate change concerns me as well, I don't wanna go down that path. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 14 July 2022 Share Posted 14 July 2022 8 minutes ago, Soup said: Good points as per. Let's hope they do reach an agreement then. It seems nowadays that the.powers that be just flex their muscle's without hesitation. This concerns me as much as climate change concerns you. Just to add climate change concerns me as well, I don't wanna go down that path. Fair enough, creeping authoritarianism is a concern for me too. For what it's worth, increasing environmental stress is a big way for *that* problem to get worse, too, which is another reason to do the right thing now. And I'm glad to hear the last sentence - I would hope that anyone sane that knows much about the issue would think similarly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 14 July 2022 Share Posted 14 July 2022 Sad to hear. Hope he can recover. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kopfkino Posted 14 July 2022 Share Posted 14 July 2022 Well looks like we’ could well be heading to our first ever 40C in the UK next week. Thankfully humidity and dew points will be low but it will be truly grim at night. Ive got one of those free standing air con things that works fine in the low 30s but not sure at higher temps though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky Posted 14 July 2022 Share Posted 14 July 2022 More train strikes announced for August. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 15 July 2022 Share Posted 15 July 2022 10 hours ago, Kopfkino said: Well looks like we’ could well be heading to our first ever 40C in the UK next week. Thankfully humidity and dew points will be low but it will be truly grim at night. Ive got one of those free standing air con things that works fine in the low 30s but not sure at higher temps though I keep hearing this 40c thing but nowhere seems to have it forecasted for their region. 35-38c yes. But nowhere says 40c? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nalis Posted 15 July 2022 Share Posted 15 July 2022 9 hours ago, Corky said: More train strikes announced for August. The three certainties in life - death, taxes and train strikes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Falling Foxes Posted 15 July 2022 Share Posted 15 July 2022 8 minutes ago, Nalis said: The three certainties in life - death, taxes and train strikes... Conceding from a corner? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nalis Posted 15 July 2022 Share Posted 15 July 2022 Just now, Free Falling Foxes said: Conceding from a corner? Ha fair point, I guess some things as so obvious they arent even worth mentioning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kopfkino Posted 15 July 2022 Share Posted 15 July 2022 2 hours ago, StanSP said: I keep hearing this 40c thing but nowhere seems to have it forecasted for their region. 35-38c yes. But nowhere says 40c? Just what keeps being shown on the public models and they often undo it. 42 on one of them this morning I see the BBC this morning are forecasting it for Kew on Tuesday but would expect the forecasters won’t forecast it properly until closer to the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 15 July 2022 Share Posted 15 July 2022 9 minutes ago, Kopfkino said: Just what keeps being shown on the public models and they often undo it. 42 on one of them this morning I see the BBC this morning are forecasting it for Kew on Tuesday but would expect the forecasters won’t forecast it properly until closer to the time I just checked and its 40-41c in Bedford so that's me told Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkie1999 Posted 15 July 2022 Share Posted 15 July 2022 1 hour ago, Kopfkino said: Just what keeps being shown on the public models and they often undo it. 42 on one of them this morning I see the BBC this morning are forecasting it for Kew on Tuesday but would expect the forecasters won’t forecast it properly until closer to the time i read somewhere that UK weather is very difficult to forcast because of our location, hence, don't forget to take your suncream, a jumper and a pair of wellies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Horse's Mouth Posted 15 July 2022 Share Posted 15 July 2022 22 hours ago, Soup said: Well done to the Dutch farmers, I hope they keep it up. https://nypost.com/2022/07/12/good-for-dutch-farmers-for-fighting-back-against-a-govt-bowing-to-enviro-radicals/ They'll freeze their bank accounts and take everything they own sadly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 15 July 2022 Share Posted 15 July 2022 35 minutes ago, The Horse's Mouth said: They'll freeze their bank accounts and take everything they own sadly As per above, it's a rather complex matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
String fellow Posted 15 July 2022 Share Posted 15 July 2022 (edited) Pretty sickening news today that captured British pow, Paul Urey, has died after being captured in Ukraine. Was he executed? Edited 15 July 2022 by String fellow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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