Coronavirus Thread

[HighPeakFox]

'We know the facts'. 

 

Really, do 'we'? 

[Dunge]

I wonder what would’ve happened if we’d let it rip. Obviously there would be more deaths. But how many more, and how would it have affected the economy and society as compared to lockdown? (Or our version of it)

[Paninistickers]

10 minutes ago, Dunge said:

I wonder what would’ve happened if we’d let it rip

More or less what happened in Sweden and Brazil and presumably most of the third world. Not a lot. 

[DennisNedry]

I dare say if we'd just 'let it rip' the economy would be doing better, inflation wouldn't have ran so rampant, and there wouldn't be so many kids starting primary schools in nappies or unable to properly communicate.

 

There'd also be a lot more people mourning the loss of their elderly friends and relatives.

[leicsmac]

49 minutes ago, Dunge said:

I wonder what would’ve happened if we’d let it rip. Obviously there would be more deaths. But how many more, and how would it have affected the economy and society as compared to lockdown? (Or our version of it)

 

38 minutes ago, Paninistickers said:

More or less what happened in Sweden and Brazil and presumably most of the third world. Not a lot. 

Difficult to tell, considering it's an unrepeatable experiment.

 

As an object lesson in demonstrating our capability to work together as a species against a global threat, however, it's a reasonable working hypothesis to say that we failed. And while the failure in this instance may be viewed as "not too costly" overall ( try telling the relatives of the dead and those suffering with long Covid that) I wonder how those who hold those self-interested sentiments that led to that failure will view the next test that comes our way with equal ambivalence.

 

Because it will, in all likelihood, be bigger.

[Paninistickers]

5 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

As an object lesson in demonstrating our capability to work together as a species against a global threat

But that was probably the roadblock to total co-operation, that many people didn't consider sniffles and headache as a 'global threat'. 

 

8 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

Because it will, in all likelihood, be bigger.

Agree. I think if the global threat was ebola or bubonic plague, then we'd see.much greater cooperation and much greater public compliance. I for one would gladly slef isolate for that l. 

[leicsmac]

4 minutes ago, Paninistickers said:

But that was probably the roadblock to total co-operation, that many people didn't consider sniffles and headache as a 'global threat'. 

 

Agree. I think if the global threat was ebola or bubonic plague, then we'd see.much greater cooperation and much greater public compliance. I for one would gladly slef isolate for that l. 

I'll be honest, I wish I had faith in all, most or even a decent proportion of the people who didn't see Covid as any kind of big thing to do this.

 

For me it's much more likely that they would dismiss the thing as a threat/conspiracy/something not directly affecting them personally ala Don't Look Up until the only thing that could be done would be to burn and count the dead.

 

Of course, I hope I'm wrong about mentality and outcome there.

Edited 18 hours ago by leicsmac

[grobyfox1990]

1 hour ago, Dunge said:

I wonder what would’ve happened if we’d let it rip. Obviously there would be more deaths. But how many more, and how would it have affected the economy and society as compared to lockdown? (Or our version of it)

Yeh same. I also wonder what govt kpi’s are. Protect every life possible no matter what the cost? Make sure the majority have a good quality of life? The premise of motorways springs to mind, we’re gonna have to accept deaths with the upside being most of us can attend to our business a lot quicker 

[Daggers]

2 hours ago, Dunge said:

I wonder what would’ve happened if we’d let it rip. Obviously there would be more deaths. But how many more, and how would it have affected the economy and society as compared to lockdown? (Or our version of it)

"Mexico ended up with a struggling economy and a high death toll, showing that “lives vs. economy” was often a false choice."

 

"New Zealand fared the best, teaching us that geographical advantages matter, but so does clear, consistent leadership."

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2023-opinion-lessons-learned-from-covid-pandemic-global-comparison/

[MPH]

My concern is that future variants of Covid will perhaps not be detected by somewhat out of date testing kits. There has been no update to the testing kits for a while now.

 

in my current job im liaising with all the care homes in this area and there have been massive outbreaks in some of them- one of them experiencing 61 cases of Covid with 21 of them being staff yet NO reported deaths or hospitalizations. So you have to ask, are the current isolation protocols out of touch with the severity of the  strains we have atm? or are the scientists warning us that  more severe strains are on their way?

 

Either way, Covid appears  to be here to stay.