Coronavirus Thread

[whoareyaaa]

Oh look @Line-X the new variant can be spread even if you have been double vaccinated :!!!!!!!!!!! what now?

[tom27111]

Absolutely no problem wearing a mask. I'll have to do it all day at work, which is fine by me.

 

Unfortunately, that brings the return of the sunflower lanyard.

 

Amazing when you walk around a shop and there'll be a couple both not wearing masks, claiming they're exempt.

 

What are the odds that both of them have a medical exemtion?

 

Incredibly, quite low from my experience 

 

And this isn't a post about people who have a genuine reason not to wear one.

Edited 27 November 2021 by tom27111

[Parafox]

3 hours ago, Farrington fox said:

Omincron. Anagram of moronic. They’re taking the pi&&. 

2 n's in Omincron. 1 in moronic

Edited 27 November 2021 by Parafox

[Voll Blau]

16 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

Oh look @Line-X the new variant can be spread even if you have been double vaccinated :!!!!!!!!!!! what now?

Weird thing to be pleased about.

[SpacedX]

10 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

Oh look @Line-X the new variant can be spread even if you have been double vaccinated :!!!!!!!!!!! what now?

What on earth are you on about now you complete nutter?

 

Delta can be transmitted even if you have been double vaccinated. Pay attention, keep up. We know that, and it has been discussed in great detail on this thread. The fact that SARS-CoV-19 can still be transmitted by the double jabbed is not a reason not to be vaccinated. 

 

Regarding Omicron, it may also have vaccination evasion properties due to the myriad of mutations it contains - we simply don't know enough about it yet. 

 

This is precisely why I myself and many others on this thread have been impressing on you for the last year that this is a global crisis and is far from over. The more people that remain vulnerable  to infections globally, the more the virus will mutate. 

[Legend_in_blue]

42 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Are you saying that delta wasn’t that much more transmissible than alpha ?? I think its accepted it was 50%.  I think the fact that nearly all transmission of covid is now delta makes your Ferguson bashing post a bit obvious …….it was expected ! 

At the time when initially announced, it was overstated.  This is my point.  The media runs with it and then Ferguson runs his figures which are equally as overstated and measures are put in place.

 

This time round the world has gone in a frenzy over one tweet from a scientist who has pointed out the many changes in this new strain.  Financially the markets take a hit, Africa becomes a no gozone, we have a reported two cases here and Bojo ends up doing his presser.  

 

That's quite an impressive reaction based off one tweet.  

 

 

[Babylon]

53 minutes ago, Legend_in_blue said:

Very effective as can be seen here.

 

 

Wow… good job respiratory droplets are vastly larger than smoke particles then.

[adam]

What is wrong with our press as well. Every question at that press conference was about more measures. Will Christmas be cancelled? Vaccine passports? Lockdown? They all love a bit of negativity. These press conferences cause more harm to people than good. 

[st albans fox]

Just now, Legend_in_blue said:

At the time when initially announced, it was overstated.  This is my point.  The media runs with it and then Ferguson runs his figures which are equally as overstated and measures are put in place.

 

This time round the world has gone in a frenzy over one tweet from a scientist who has pointed out the many changes in this new strain.  Financially the markets take a hit, Africa becomes a no gozone, we have a reported two cases here and Bojo ends up doing his presser.  

 

That's quite an impressive reaction based off one tweet.  

 

 

So you think today’s response from govt is about a tweet from a scientist?  

if so, I won’t bother reading any of your posts - at the moment I do read them because it’s unreasonable of me not to. 
 

I think the response today is very measured - if you’d listened to the presser then whitty and vallance explained what the issues could be pretty well. 

 

[tom27111]

1 minute ago, adam said:

What is wrong with our press as well. Every question at that press conference was about more measures. Will Christmas be cancelled? Vaccine passports? Lockdown? They all love a bit of negativity. These press conferences cause more harm to people than good. 

 

It's the media.

 

They want a headline.

 

If Boris or the scientists guarantee no further measures or lockdown, they have a future headline for going back on promises. 

 

Reporting sensibly doesn't sell.

[Babylon]

1 minute ago, Legend_in_blue said:

At the time when initially announced, it was overstated.  This is my point.  The media runs with it and then Ferguson runs his figures which are equally as overstated and measures are put in place.

 

This time round the world has gone in a frenzy over one tweet from a scientist who has pointed out the many changes in this new strain.  Financially the markets take a hit, Africa becomes a no gozone, we have a reported two cases here and Bojo ends up doing his presser.  

 

That's quite an impressive reaction based off one tweet.  

 

 

Can you please get this into your head, any SAGE projections are based on trends at the time. They are not predictions, and don’t pretend to be. 
 

Each projection released with this wording in great big red letters to help the idiots. “These projections are based on current trends and will not fully reflect the impact of policy or behavioural changes over the past two to three weeks. They are not forecasts or predictions.”

 

 

[Otis]

1 hour ago, Super_horns said:

I tend to find most elderly and older people still wear them in shops.

 

Mind you sometimes it's half way down their chin or they take it off to lick their fingers|!

Yeah the elderly wear masks to protect the young people who don't wear masks... so I'm told 😂

[Babylon]

58 minutes ago, adam said:

I think what he is saying is that ferguson has never been correct with his modeling. 

You know they release more than one projection don’t you, with multiple scenarios. The issue here, is that people only look at the worst case scenario, ignore the others and then say they were wrong, when in fact some of the others are damn close to what has or is happening.

[Otis]

14 minutes ago, adam said:

What is wrong with our press as well. Every question at that press conference was about more measures. Will Christmas be cancelled? Vaccine passports? Lockdown? They all love a bit of negativity. These press conferences cause more harm to people than good. 

Bad new sells. Simple as that.

[Legend_in_blue]

9 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

So you think today’s response from govt is about a tweet from a scientist?  

if so, I won’t bother reading any of your posts - at the moment I do read them because it’s unreasonable of me not to. 
 

I think the response today is very measured - if you’d listened to the presser then whitty and vallance explained what the issues could be pretty well. 

 

If the information is never put out there in the first place, the govt response does not happen.

 

The response isn't directly based off the tweet obviously, the wheels were put in motion a few days ago.

 

This is a reaction, to be seen doing something is far more important than not doing anything at all.

 

Heneghan would point to an evidence base at this point.  Germany?  With medical grade masks, cases are doing what exactly?

[Parafox]

8 minutes ago, Otis said:

Yeah the elderly wear masks to protect the young people who don't wear masks... so I'm told 😂

They wear them when they're alone in their own car, or alone walking down the street. I bet they wear them in their own bed at night. But always leaving their nose uncovered.

[Otis]

1 minute ago, Parafox said:

They wear them when they're alone in their own car, or alone walking down the street. I bet they wear them in their own bed at night. But always leaving their nose uncovered.

😂 so true. 

[Innovindil]

The media are overreacting.

 

The governments around the world are overreacting.

 

The stockmarket is overreacting.

 

...Meanwhile on foxestalk when people hear we might have to wear masks again.

 

 

**** me. It's a bit of cloth ffs. If it makes people feel safer who gives a monkey how effective it is.

[Babylon]

2 minutes ago, Legend_in_blue said:

If the information is never put out there in the first place, the govt response does not happen.

 

The response isn't directly based off the tweet obviously, the wheels were put in motion a few days ago.

 

This is a reaction, to be seen doing something is far more important than not doing anything at all.

 

Heneghan would point to an evidence base at this point.  Germany?  With medical grade masks, cases are doing what exactly?

What on earth are you talking about, there are teams of people around the world tracking, sequencing and providing data to governments about variants. If you think this is based off a tweet you are out of your mind.

 

As for masks, once again, nobody has ever said they are a cure all stop everything solution. They categorically are not, but if the scientists are happy there is a benefit, even if it’s small, then it can make a  difference.

 

You don’t seem capable of grasping that you can’t actually measure the cases a mask has stopped in Germany can you.

[tom27111]

7 minutes ago, Otis said:

Bad new sells. Simple as that.

 

Slightly off topic, but I remember when there was a house fire in Leicester quite a few years ago now, I believe it turned out to be some sort of temple, maybe for Hare Krishna? 

 

Sky had live helicopter footage, Kay Burley was sensationalising it, speculating how many people were dead. 

 

They must have spent 2 hours watching this live footage.

 

Then, an announcement from East Midlands Ambulance..."Fortunately, there are no injuries and no persons unaccounted for, the fire brigade have the situation under control."

 

The cameras immediately cut from the scene and the story wasn't given another second of airtime 

 

If ain't ain't bad news, it ain't worth covering.

[Voll Blau]

Obviously less than thrilled about this, but it's quite amusing seeing all the edgy "non-conformists" boast about getting to wear their exemption lanyards...

[Farrington fox]

46 minutes ago, Parafox said:

2 n's in Omincron. 1 in moronic

Doh, spelt it wrong. 

Edited 27 November 2021 by Farrington fox

[Babylon]

1 minute ago, tom27111 said:

 

Slightly off topic, but I remember when there was a house fire in Leicester quite a few years ago now, I believe it turned out to be some sort of temple, maybe for Hare Krishna? 

 

Sky had live helicopter footage, Kay Burley was sensationalising it, speculating how many people were dead. 

 

They must have spent 2 hours watching this live footage.

 

Then, an announcement from East Midlands Ambulance..."Fortunately, there are no injuries and no persons unaccounted for, the fire brigade have the situation under control."

 

The cameras immediately cut from the scene and the story wasn't given another second of airtime 

 

If ain't ain't bad news, it ain't worth covering.

“Man drives to work safely without incident”.

”Teens settle dispute amicably and don’t stab each other”.

 

”Police arrest nobody on quiet night in town”

 

 

[yorkie1999]

Is this new variant, although I’m fairly sure they knew about it in July, actually killing people en masse?

[kingfox]