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7 minutes ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

To be fair I meant these constant pressers we've been having almost daily since the news about their work parties broke.

 

See what the presser brings at 5pm anyway.

Sorry - yeah. Definitely an element of strategic deployment. 

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5 minutes ago, Fox in the North said:

Silly question, if you are just coming out of isolation after having Covid, is there a chance you could also get the Omicron variant immediately afterwards? Or should a double Pfizer vaccine and antibodies from the first virus stop me from getting the new variant for the time being?

I haven't really seen this answered anywhere. I saw an anecdotal case about someone in Iceland getting Omicron less than a month after recovering from Delta, but obviously there's an anecdote for everything.

 

You'll be very very well protected against severe illness, that's for sure.

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13 hours ago, Babylon said:

Oh wow a meme and a YouTube video, you should have said. 
 

One of the biggest trials that was constantly used as evidence got withdrawn because the bloke lied. He say that in his video? 
 

Not forgetting the inconsistent uses, poor trial data, some of the biggest properly controlled trials being halted for futility, all the others that showed no benefit whatsoever.

 

One of the biggest reviews of the data removing all the proven fraudulent studies and those at high risk of bias due to poor practices, shows little benefit. https://academic.oup.com/ofid/article/8/11/ofab358/6316214

70 trials involving nearly 50k patients show Ivermectin is a very effective treatment. Here's the upto date meta analysis of all 70 trials

https://ivmmeta.com

Uttar Perdesh India's biggest state with 240M people, crippling poverty and population density, reduced there covid rates by 97% in 1 month. From 300000 to 9000, by giving Ivermectin to anybody who had a positive covid test. Massive reductions in Japan, Mexico and Peru.

Vaccination is just one weapon in our armoury against Covid, there are many others purposefully ignored.

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17 minutes ago, KrefelderFox666 said:

Case numbers are going through the roof. Hospitalisations are also taking on that trend. However, for now, deaths are heading downwards.

Deaths seemed to peak mid nov and have been fairly flat since the back end nov. Cases dropped mid nov and have steadily increased since then. The fact that we are still fairly flat a month later is good and probably related to the booster program. 

 

a surge in cases now should lead to increased deaths by mid jan.  but how much ???  And even if deaths don’t become significant larger from covid, if hospitals are overwhelmed, then the govt have to do something to prevent that. It’s never really been about deaths since the early days - it’s always been about the NHS ………. So much uncertainty away from the knowledge that cases are going through three roof! 

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4 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Sorry but that’s nonsense 

 

(no slight on you - whoever reported it is talking rubbish)

 

they may have sequenced 5k positives but it’s probably five times that number 

Some data here to back you up 

 

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1041210/20211215_OS_Daily_Omicron_Overview.pdf

 

So by s gene test failure  it’s 25k…. (Or what you said !)

 

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42 minutes ago, fox_favourite said:

I think Jan will be another lockdown. Cases are rocketing, that will very well lead to a mass increase in hospital admissions. 
 

Mentally, I’m worn out with it all.

If the booster campaign goes as hoped, the vast majority of triple vaccinated would have immunity boosted by mid-third week of January, the most vulnerable comfortably past the strengthened barrier stage.

 

If they lock down with all that in place, we're having it virtually every year.

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