Coronavirus Thread

[Nalis]

I'm quite an outgoing person but I've enjoyed my quarantine so far with as I'm avioding the usual self made pressure to do stuff. Silver linings and all that.

Edited 30 December 2021 by Nalis

[Dunge]

1 hour ago, Legend_in_blue said:

Good read.

 

https://dailysceptic.org/why-have-our-points-landed-after-all/

 

Pretty much sums up where we are.

For an allegedly intelligent man, I think there’s a serious question mark over the fact he seems unable to discern that the “right course of action” can change during the course of an event.

 

Basically the kind of general who would have caused the deaths of thousands of his men because he wanted to use an end-of-war tactic at the start of it.

[shade]

 

phew. 

[leicsmac]

9 minutes ago, shade said:

 

phew. 

Not the worst faux pas the man has made tbh.

 

That would be tolerating Manchin getting in the way of pretty much everything.

[Leicester_Loyal]

Out of isolation a couple of days ago, a slight tingling cough when laying down, but other than that nothing to report.

[pleatout]

On 10/12/2021 at 21:32, pleatout said:

Currently UHL have around 100 people with covid.  Obviously not all in ICU beds.  The plan is ready for a surge in early jan.  Extra capacity is available in Leicestershire.  Plan for the worse, hope for the best.  Everyone in the NHS will be overjoyed if all the planning and preparation was a waste of time.

 

14 hours ago, brucey said:

Smaller Nightingale Hospitals apparently being prepared again in the new year.. just in case they're needed... 

 

Not a criticism of @brucey but you've got to laugh at the media & the "powers that be".  It seems the NHS is planning for more admissions and will start setting up extra capacity from today.  Seems I let the cat out of the bag 3 weeks ago.  we've been planning for this since September, the capacity has been in place for weeks!

 

[st albans fox]

3 hours ago, fox_favourite said:

This thread will go down in history. This has surpassed the Maynard thread! 

This is actually the second thread!

 

[Babylon]

1 hour ago, shade said:

 

phew. 

Wonder if someone did a meme of his other comments in that townhall where he clearly says you can still get covid, or is it just the bit he messes up.

 

Honestly, it's such scraping the barrel bullshit. 

 

 

[Babylon]

7 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

This is actually the second thread!

 

Did the first die of covid

[WigstonWanderer]

3 hours ago, leicsmac said:

....and there was me thinking there was a likely significant difference between variants of the virus compared to a year and a half ago and now and so attitudes towards it and "living with it" would shift based on that, rather than on some self-congratulatory "sceptics" actually having been right all along.

 

There's so many fallacious arguments in there it would be darkly amusing if some folks didn't actually buy into the ideas being peddled with all the consequences for human life, economy and comfort that entails.

Not to mention that the population is mostly now vaccinated. These people don’t have a shred of decency or they’d be begging forgiveness for getting it so wrong. If they had been in charge and let the virus rip through an unvaccinated population to get to herd immunity quickly they’d have killed hundreds of thousands more both directly from Covid and indirectly by totally screwing health services. 

[Zear0]

18 minutes ago, WigstonWanderer said:

Not to mention that the population is mostly now vaccinated. These people don’t have a shred of decency or they’d be begging forgiveness for getting it so wrong. If they had been in charge and let the virus rip through an unvaccinated population to get to herd immunity quickly they’d have killed hundreds of thousands more both directly from Covid and indirectly by totally screwing health services. 

Mosh would still be open though which is the main thing.

[leicsmac]

17 minutes ago, WigstonWanderer said:

Not to mention that the population is mostly now vaccinated. These people don’t have a shred of decency or they’d be begging forgiveness for getting it so wrong. If they had been in charge and let the virus rip through an unvaccinated population to get to herd immunity quickly they’d have killed hundreds of thousands more both directly from Covid and indirectly by totally screwing health services. 

Yep. And that aforementioned lack of decency comes directly from their own ego and the willingness to see a great many people suffer and die to satisfy it.

 

Unfortunately, such people are often also very charismatic and convincing and therefore powerful and in a position to abuse that power.

[kingfox]

Was just looking at Leicester’s data out of curiosity.

 

Most areas now find themselves with over 1,000 per 100,000 cases, can’t remember the last time that happened, if ever, goes to show how fast its escalating.

 

Vaccination rates in Leicester, especially in some areas are quite average, overall for Leicester, 71% have had one dose, 64% second dose, 37% a booster.

 

With that kind of data, luckily at this moment in time, hospitalisations are remaining flat. Will take another two weeks for Christmas and New Year data to come in, these next two weeks are going to be extremely key.

[when_you're_smiling]

28 minutes ago, kingfox said:

Was just looking at Leicester’s data out of curiosity.

 

Most areas now find themselves with over 1,000 per 100,000 cases, can’t remember the last time that happened, if ever, goes to show how fast its escalating.

 

Vaccination rates in Leicester, especially in some areas are quite average, overall for Leicester, 71% have had one dose, 64% second dose, 37% a booster.

 

With that kind of data, luckily at this moment in time, hospitalisations are remaining flat. Will take another two weeks for Christmas and New Year data to come in, these next two weeks are going to be extremely key.

Virtually everyone I know in Leics has had it in the last two weeks or so. Virtually all triple vaxxed too though thankfully (and probably because of that) all fairly mild symptoms. 

[Sol thewall Bamba]

How many days of backlogged deaths are being reported today? Big figure (relative to the current average, small figure compared to this time last year) that will be splashed all over the place to try and ramp the fear up a notch.

[st albans fox]

45 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

How many days of backlogged deaths are being reported today? Big figure (relative to the current average, small figure compared to this time last year) that will be splashed all over the place to try and ramp the fear up a notch.

Assume the figure will be pretty large - maybe 300/400 as there are a couple hundred missing from the past two days reporting. 
 

And yes, some folk are generally pretty stoopid when it comes to big numbers ….

[Farrington fox]

Professor Sunetra Gupta epidemiologist has stated that Wales and Scotland should remove their restrictions immediately, and that we should not impose any more. Her reasoning is that the restrictions have no overall effect on spread of the virus, and a high level of herd immunity needs to be maintained. 

[shade]

If this is correct (and my German speaking doctor friend has corroborated it), it's pretty worrying...

 

Robert Koch Institute report released today states that 95.58% of the #Omicron cases in Germany are fully vaccinated (28% of those had a "booster"), 4.42% are unvaccinated.

 

71.1% of the total population is fully vaccinated in Germany.

[Legend_in_blue]

9 minutes ago, Farrington fox said:

Professor Sunetra Gupta epidemiologist has stated that Wales and Scotland should remove their restrictions immediately, and that we should not impose any more. Her reasoning is that the restrictions have no overall effect on spread of the virus, and a high level of herd immunity needs to be maintained. 

She speaks too much sense and as a result has been shunned by everyone on the basis that if we did what she said, we'd have ended up in a far worse position.

 

Truth is, we will never know.  

[Bryn]

2 minutes ago, shade said:

If this is correct (and my German speaking doctor friend has corroborated it), it's pretty worrying...

 

Robert Koch Institute report released today states that 95.58% of the #Omicron cases in Germany are fully vaccinated (28% of those had a "booster"), 4.42% are unvaccinated.

 

71.1% of the total population is fully vaccinated in Germany.

 

The majority of people in the country are vaccinated.

 

I'd hypothesise that the majority of people who bother to get a test are vaccinated.

 

You can't look at absolute numbers in this way, you have to look at relative risk.

You also have to look at severity of illness.

[TheUltimateWinner]

4 minutes ago, shade said:

If this is correct (and my German speaking doctor friend has corroborated it), it's pretty worrying...

 

Robert Koch Institute report released today states that 95.58% of the #Omicron cases in Germany are fully vaccinated (28% of those had a "booster"), 4.42% are unvaccinated.

 

71.1% of the total population is fully vaccinated in Germany.

Thought we already knew this though?

 

The UK have been saying 2 doses isn't enough for a while now to stop catching it.

 

If 3 doses gives 70% protection, although obviously not a direct translation into the case count, the 28% of cases being boosted doesn't surprise me.

Edited 30 December 2021 by TheUltimateWinner

[shade]

2 minutes ago, Bryn said:

 

The majority of people in the country are vaccinated.

 

I'd hypothesise that the majority of people who bother to get a test are vaccinated.

 

You can't look at absolute numbers in this way, you have to look at relative risk.

You also have to look at severity of illness.

At some point we have to stop explaining EVERYTHING away that doesn't fit the official narrative, if it's right that the unvaccinated represent 29% of the population but only 4.4% of cases, that is statistically significant whichever way you cut it.

[grobyfox1990]

5 minutes ago, shade said:

If this is correct (and my German speaking doctor friend has corroborated it), it's pretty worrying...

 

Robert Koch Institute report released today states that 95.58% of the #Omicron cases in Germany are fully vaccinated (28% of those had a "booster"), 4.42% are unvaccinated.

 

71.1% of the total population is fully vaccinated in Germany.

Yeh but it does not really matter if all those cases are mild or asymptomatic. Hence why you have the vaccinations, to ensure your infection is mild. In the last 8 days i've been around literally thousands of people (two football matches) and socialised extensively all day everyday. I have only been in the house to sleep and shower. I have tested everyday and been negative, but that must be complete nonsense. I must have been infected at some point but I am vaccinated, so nothing has come of it. I'm just a stat, who cares, it's not worrying.

[shade]

Just now, grobyfox1990 said:

Yeh but it does not really matter if all those cases are mild or asymptomatic. Hence why you have the vaccinations, to ensure your infection is mild. In the last 8 days i've been around literally thousands of people (two football matches) and socialised extensively all day everyday. I have only been in the house to sleep and shower. I have tested everyday and been negative, but that must be complete nonsense. I must have been infected at some point but I am vaccinated, so nothing has come of it. I'm just a stat, who cares, it's not worrying.

65% of UK hospitalisations are fully vaccinated so it absolutely DOES matter.

[Legend_in_blue]

2 minutes ago, shade said:

At some point we have to stop explaining EVERYTHING away that doesn't fit the official narrative, if it's right that the unvaccinated represent 29% of the population but only 4.4% of cases, that is statistically significant whichever way you cut it.

After more than 18 months of "following the science", good luck with that

 

Edited 30 December 2021 by Legend_in_blue