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Coronavirus Thread

By filbertway, in General Chat

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4 minutes ago, Rain King said:

Anyone know of anywhere that would be providing lateral flow tests at this time of night?

Son had a match last night and now several of his team have tested positive. He came home from school quite lethargic.

 

Just gone to test him and we've used our last one.

Just isolate him and wait until the morning. It wouldn't show up that quickly anyway, you'd need 3-5 days post infection for him to test positive.

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8 hours ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

 

The "State" is compelled to step in regarding various incidences of child abuse. I'm not sure why this particular situation which has the potential for such abuse has got this talking head clutching her pearls and going "but what about the parents?!"

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34 minutes ago, Legend_in_blue said:

Why not?  Her choice.  Prepared to take the risk.  

 

 

Maybe as part of her role she would be caring for people unable to have the vaccine themselves, so if she is unvaccinated it would put them at unnecessary risk. 

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37 minutes ago, FoxesDeb said:

Maybe as part of her role she would be caring for people unable to have the vaccine themselves, so if she is unvaccinated it would put them at unnecessary risk. 

Even having the vaccine would put them at risk as the virus can still be transmitted.  

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15 minutes ago, Legend_in_blue said:

Even having the vaccine would put them at risk as the virus can still be transmitted.  

Of course, but the risk of transmission is reduced from people who have been vaccinated, no? Vaccinated people transmit a lower viral load, so the risk is reduced as far as I understand. 

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1 hour ago, Legend_in_blue said:

Why not?  Her choice.  Prepared to take the risk.  

 

 

You are more likely to catch covid and more likely to spread it to others if you are not vaccinated. I would see any NHS employee who refuses the vaccine as not fit to work in healthcare to be honest.

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2 hours ago, Super_horns said:

Well some will say it’s harsh as the vaccine is a personal choice but she was working in a highly dangerous work place facing very vulnerable people .

What Lil Miss QAnon in that picture doesn't seem to get (or not care about) is that freedom works both ways.

 

One has the freedom to put other people at increased risk of harm. Those same people likewise have the freedom to have action, singularly or collectively through legislation, to defend themselves against that increased risk.

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2 hours ago, Super_horns said:

Well some will say it’s harsh as the vaccine is a personal choice but she was working in a highly dangerous work place facing very vulnerable people .

 

2 hours ago, Unabomber said:

Why would a nurse refuse the vaccine?

 

2 hours ago, yorkie1999 said:

Cos she didn't want it.

I didn't want to wear full PPE in my job, it is awful to have it on but if I didn't I'd be putting myself, my family, the patients I was called to, my colleagues and others, at huge risk.

I get that the vaccine doesn't prevent infection or transmission but it is proven to hugely reduce these factors so, for example, you're a carer for Doris Jones and you've refused the vaccine on whatever grounds. Doris lives alone and is housebound. You continue to be a carer for Doris, 88 yrs old with vulnerabilities. You are carrying the Covid virus without symptoms. You are more likely to be infectious as you refused the vaccine. Doris is infected by you as she is the only person she has contact with. She subsequently dies from respiratory failure. Would you then feel different?

If a person doesn't want the vaccine out of personal choice that's up to the individual to decide. If you work with vulnerable people in any environment and you don't fancy the vaccine, get a different job.

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1 hour ago, FoxesDeb said:

Of course, but the risk of transmission is reduced from people who have been vaccinated, no? Vaccinated people transmit a lower viral load, so the risk is reduced as far as I understand. 

Unless your vaccinated and catch the “Delta variant” and it’s the same according to the study below.

 

“A new study found that people vaccinated against coronavirus who have also contracted the Delta variant of SARS-CoV-2 could have similar peak levels of the virus as people who have not had a vaccination.”

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1 hour ago, HankMarvin said:

Unless your vaccinated and catch the “Delta variant” and it’s the same according to the study below.

 

“A new study found that people vaccinated against coronavirus who have also contracted the Delta variant of SARS-CoV-2 could have similar peak levels of the virus as people who have not had a vaccination.”

Justification for a vaccine passport right there of course.

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