Popular Post The_Rorab Posted 5 February 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 5 February 2023 9 minutes ago, Jobyfox said: I just always find this Amartey thread a little bizarre. You can’t express pleasure about DA being out of the starting eleven without multiple people jumping to his defence like he’s some sort of kicked puppy. “He’s a lovely bloke…. he deserves our respect … he’s only playing because superior players are being sidelined or injured … etc … etc…” All true, but totally irrelevant. My dentist is a lovely bloke, but I wouldn’t want him to be lining up at CB in our next game either I mean there's a bit of a difference between being pleased he's not in the starting lineup and saying that he stinks the place out every time he plays, no? One is probably universally agreed upon, and the other is just an insult. Albeit looking back, you've got a more reasonable take on things in that you aren't just calling him complete shite like some people, I've no qualms about being pleased he can be moved back onto the bench, but I don't think it's strange to see people defending him when you have people coming to the thread to say he's an abject footballer etc when he clearly isn't. He's just not quite good enough to be a regular starter for a team that wants more than just survival. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobyfox Posted 5 February 2023 Share Posted 5 February 2023 7 minutes ago, The_Rorab said: I mean there's a bit of a difference between being pleased he's not in the starting lineup and saying that he stinks the place out every time he plays, no? One is probably universally agreed upon, and the other is just an insult. Albeit looking back, you've got a more reasonable take on things in that you aren't just calling him complete shite like some people, I've no qualms about being pleased he can be moved back onto the bench, but I don't think it's strange to see people defending him when you have people coming to the thread to say he's an abject footballer etc when he clearly isn't. He's just not quite good enough to be a regular starter for a team that wants more than just survival. Yes - spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Devonfox1884 Posted 5 February 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 5 February 2023 Big Dan as a 4th choice CB is absolutely fine. He’s played more this season than I would have ideally wanted him to, and he is prone to a mistake, but the guy gives his best every time he’s on the pitch and he has at times shown himself to be quite a capable CB. If we let Dan go then we’re probably looking at a bare minimum £5m or so to replace him, likely a fair bit more than that. I can’t help but feel that money would be better used elsewhere considering the players we’re going to need to sign this summer. Hope he signs an extension. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bayfox Posted 5 February 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 5 February 2023 1 minute ago, Devonfox1884 said: Big Dan as a 4th choice CB is absolutely fine. He’s played more this season than I would have ideally wanted him to, and he is prone to a mistake, but the guy gives his best every time he’s on the pitch and he has at times shown himself to be quite a capable CB. If we let Dan go then we’re probably looking at a bare minimum £5m or so to replace him, likely a fair bit more than that. I can’t help but feel that money would be better used elsewhere considering the players we’re going to need to sign this summer. Hope he signs an extension. This is exactly it. It seems at times we expect our 4th choice CB to have the ability of Franz Beckenbauer and yet also seemed shocked that our wage bill is out of control. Surely having Big Dan as back up but on a reasonably modest wage is about where we are currently at as a club. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facecloth Posted 5 February 2023 Share Posted 5 February 2023 4 minutes ago, Devonfox1884 said: Big Dan as a 4th choice CB is absolutely fine. He’s played more this season than I would have ideally wanted him to, and he is prone to a mistake, but the guy gives his best every time he’s on the pitch and he has at times shown himself to be quite a capable CB. If we let Dan go then we’re probably looking at a bare minimum £5m or so to replace him, likely a fair bit more than that. I can’t help but feel that money would be better used elsewhere considering the players we’re going to need to sign this summer. Hope he signs an extension. I mean with Evans likely finished at this level, Soyuncu leaving and Vestergaard useless and leaving we will need a new centre back, but as you say replacing him wouldn't be a priority. Signing a 3rd choice CB behind Souttar and Faes, a goalkeeper and right winger (hopefully Tete) plus replacing Tielemans and potentially Maddison are all more pressing issues than replacing Amartey as number 4 CB. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonnieTodger Posted 5 February 2023 Share Posted 5 February 2023 He’s got obvious limitations but for the first half of last season, he and Justin were neck and neck for player of the season 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpacedX Posted 6 February 2023 Share Posted 6 February 2023 20 hours ago, The_Rorab said: I mean 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post East Langton Fox Posted 6 February 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 6 February 2023 19 hours ago, RonnieTodger said: He’s got obvious limitations but for the first half of last season, he and Justin were neck and neck for player of the season They were, Amartey had a number of good performances, he’s not the best and makes mistakes but overall has not done a bad job when asked to fill in, because that is all he does. some of the abuse he gets on here is ridiculous. Vestergaard I can understand but give big Dan some credit. 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frany104 Posted 6 February 2023 Share Posted 6 February 2023 23 hours ago, Devonfox1884 said: Big Dan as a 4th choice CB is absolutely fine. He’s played more this season than I would have ideally wanted him to, and he is prone to a mistake, but the guy gives his best every time he’s on the pitch and he has at times shown himself to be quite a capable CB. If we let Dan go then we’re probably looking at a bare minimum £5m or so to replace him, likely a fair bit more than that. I can’t help but feel that money would be better used elsewhere considering the players we’re going to need to sign this summer. Hope he signs an extension. I would offer him a new contract on the understanding he’s a4th choice cb with a wage reflecting that. If he’s after a big pay rise we would be better off letting Ben Nelson step up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruzFOX Posted 8 February 2023 Share Posted 8 February 2023 Big fan has served his purpose. He’s not a terrible player but can be useful. He just has that tendency to drop a clanger when you least expect it or need it. Big games can hinge on pivotal moments so we can’t afford players switching off and gifting the opposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fuchsntf Posted 8 February 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 8 February 2023 (edited) I thought Amartey was starting to making grounds as RB,Then he broke his ankle/leg....Then that position was ceased by Riccardo... Amartey won a few Brownie PTS, covering various positions..but never became master of one. A true fringe player..who simply deserves more respect. Than the shit thrown at him.. Edited 8 February 2023 by fuchsntf 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldeagle Posted 8 February 2023 Share Posted 8 February 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, fuchsntf said: I thought Amartey was starting to making grounds as LB,Then he broke his ankle/leg....Then that position was ceased by Riccardo... Amartey won a few Brownie PTS, covering various positions..but never became master of one. A true fringe player..who simply deserves more respect. Than the shit thrown at him.. Don’t you mean RB I can’t remember him ever playing a LB Edited 8 February 2023 by baldeagle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 8 February 2023 Share Posted 8 February 2023 Amartey is a good character and squad player, much like Mendy, Praet and Albrigton in his later years. The issue isn't having one of those squad players in your 11, it is when you have 4 or 5 of them playing. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuchsntf Posted 8 February 2023 Share Posted 8 February 2023 52 minutes ago, cruzFOX said: Big fan has served his purpose. He’s not a terrible player but can be useful. He just has that tendency to drop a clanger when you least expect it or need it. Big games can hinge on pivotal moments so we can’t afford players switching off and gifting the opposition. He's made mistakes, but also received Hospital passes , or receiving player, Ndidi/Tielemans have lost & not secured ball He does have that lovely knack,every 2nd game also just to switch off,but then who hasn't since last season .. Amartey is like many PL players away from top 4 ( at any time)..a decent player short just of any period consistency...He through many 90 minutes will be having seemingly a good decent game,then a fade out, often a gate-crash of a failure, he's last on the line, oppo often scores..!! No excuse for me,when it keeps happening.... But he also stops & kills opportunities & created chances from the opposition.. It's what's counter-acts what.... What doesn't work are our triangles & quick play from the R.hand side when defending. Hoping Castagna/Soutta/Faes with Tete & Maddison as release will stop that high car crash error rate... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuchsntf Posted 8 February 2023 Share Posted 8 February 2023 1 hour ago, baldeagle said: Don’t you mean RB I can’t remember him ever playing a LB Sorry typo you are right,my bad.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuchsntf Posted 8 February 2023 Share Posted 8 February 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, coolhandfox said: Amartey is a good character and squad player, much like Mendy, Praet and Albrigton in his later years. The issue isn't having one of those squad players in your 11, it is when you have 4 or 5 of them playing. Mendy as only been there or majority of times,when we played positive successfull football..in these last 2-3 seasons..ditto when we moved good ball & decent crossed Mr Sharkey was the catalyste Edited 8 February 2023 by fuchsntf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldeagle Posted 8 February 2023 Share Posted 8 February 2023 1 hour ago, fuchsntf said: Sorry typo you are right,my bad.. Phew wasn’t sure if I was going mad then 😊 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuchsntf Posted 8 February 2023 Share Posted 8 February 2023 33 minutes ago, baldeagle said: Phew wasn’t sure if I was going mad then 😊 Well your like me, beyond repair.. But don't worry..think how the rest of the world's going on... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moore_94 Posted 9 February 2023 Share Posted 9 February 2023 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityfanlee23 Posted 9 February 2023 Share Posted 9 February 2023 Can’t believe I’m saying this but once we have defenders back, if Ndidi is still playing as badly I’d be interested in seeing Amartey come on as a sub in midfield, which was his original position. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facecloth Posted 9 February 2023 Share Posted 9 February 2023 5 minutes ago, moore_94 said: How has Amartey only played 110 minutes, so just over a game, more than James Justin? The minutes played don't look right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moore_94 Posted 9 February 2023 Share Posted 9 February 2023 15 minutes ago, Facecloth said: How has Amartey only played 110 minutes, so just over a game, more than James Justin? The minutes played don't look right. It is correct https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/daniel-amartey/leistungsdaten/spieler/214056 https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/james-justin/leistungsdaten/spieler/413220 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facecloth Posted 9 February 2023 Share Posted 9 February 2023 4 minutes ago, moore_94 said: It is correct https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/daniel-amartey/leistungsdaten/spieler/214056 https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/james-justin/leistungsdaten/spieler/413220 Surprised. Feels like Amartey has been a mainstay of the side this season and Justin has been out for ages. I suppose a large part of Justin's time out was the world cup so it seems longer but no games were played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filbertway Posted 9 February 2023 Share Posted 9 February 2023 24 minutes ago, cityfanlee23 said: Can’t believe I’m saying this but once we have defenders back, if Ndidi is still playing as badly I’d be interested in seeing Amartey come on as a sub in midfield, which was his original position. It really wasn't. He's always been a CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted 9 February 2023 Share Posted 9 February 2023 On 05/02/2023 at 22:21, RonnieTodger said: He’s got obvious limitations but for the first half of last season, he and Justin were neck and neck for player of the season wasn't Justin out until about January that season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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