HybridFox Posted 21 November 2021 Share Posted 21 November 2021 One of the few who actually tries to put a tackle in. I just wish his shot went in 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genesis1 Posted 21 November 2021 Share Posted 21 November 2021 I completely eat my words. I said at the start of the season or there abouts I want him nowhere near the first team, but like Okazaki he's not a world beater but he tries dam hard. If we insist on a back 3 I'd argue Forfana would take Soyunchus place. On a unrelated note, what do people think of if we did get Tarkowski on a free, could he help us defensively? I think our full backs are fine, when fully fit and the obvious ones are picked. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Col city fan Posted 21 November 2021 Share Posted 21 November 2021 I think you’re all deluded kids Time and time again yesterday, Chelsea were specifically hitting the long ball from central positions, down our right side to Chilwell. Clearly part of their game plan. Just watch the parts where Kasper made the worldy save from the Chilwell shot and their final goal where Amartey absolutely switches off, doesn’t follow his man and he has a tap-in I’m convinced you’re watching different games to me, or the cult of Amartey has become so strong on here that you have blurred vision. OUR DEFENSIVE FRAILTIES ARE NOT ALL ABOUT AMARTY (did you all read that for future reference?) But a significant amount are due to his awful positioning. You won’t change your mind btw. And meanwhile we are dropping like a stone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mod hero Posted 21 November 2021 Share Posted 21 November 2021 5 minutes ago, Col city fan said: I think you’re all deluded kids Time and time again yesterday, Chelsea were specifically hitting the long ball from central positions, down our right side to Chilwell. Clearly part of their game plan. Just watch the parts where Kasper made the worldy save from the Chilwell shot and their final goal where Amartey absolutely switches off, doesn’t follow his man and he has a tap-in I’m convinced you’re watching different games to me, or the cult of Amartey has become so strong on here that you have blurred vision. OUR DEFENSIVE FRAILTIES ARE NOT ALL ABOUT AMARTY (did you all read that for future reference?) But a significant amount are due to his awful positioning. You won’t change your mind btw. And meanwhile we are dropping like a stone Zzzzzzzzzzzz 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CosbehFox Posted 21 November 2021 Popular Post Share Posted 21 November 2021 That’s some claim on the third goal it’s Amartey’s man considering Evans is two yards away 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Fresh Posted 21 November 2021 Share Posted 21 November 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Col city fan said: I think you’re all deluded kids Time and time again yesterday, Chelsea were specifically hitting the long ball from central positions, down our right side to Chilwell. Clearly part of their game plan. Just watch the parts where Kasper made the worldy save from the Chilwell shot and their final goal where Amartey absolutely switches off, doesn’t follow his man and he has a tap-in I’m convinced you’re watching different games to me, or the cult of Amartey has become so strong on here that you have blurred vision. OUR DEFENSIVE FRAILTIES ARE NOT ALL ABOUT AMARTY (did you all read that for future reference?) But a significant amount are due to his awful positioning. You won’t change your mind btw. And meanwhile we are dropping like a stone Looking at the 3rd goal I'd argue both Soyuncu and Evans are at fault more so than Amartey. Wasn't Pulisic playing through the middle? So actually Evans' man to pick up theoretically. Additionally it was Evans at fault for the second (after the initial midfield shambles) not stepping out to Kante, saying Amartey is the reason for a significant number of chances against us is just odd. With regards to Chilwell I'd imagine rather than targeting Amartey they were exploiting the fact he had Albrighton as a wing back next to him, not the Belgian international on the other side. Edited 21 November 2021 by Tommy Fresh 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Col city fan Posted 21 November 2021 Share Posted 21 November 2021 26 minutes ago, Tommy Fresh said: Looking at the 3rd goal I'd argue both Soyuncu and Evans are at fault more so than Amartey. Wasn't Pulisic playing through the middle? So actually Evans' man to pick up theoretically. Additionally it was Evans at fault for the second (after the initial midfield shambles) not stepping out to Kante, saying Amartey is the reason for a significant number of chances against us is just odd. With regards to Chilwell I'd imagine rather than targeting Amartey they were exploiting the fact he had Albrighton as a wing back next to him, not the Belgian international on the other side. Whether Albrighton or Amartey (I suspect it was both), Chelsea clearly targeted our right side of the defence. It was unfeasible how one, long diagonal ball could catch us off guard so many times. Chilwell should have scored his first chance (poor miss), Hudson-Odoi could have easily scored from that side (just went over the bar). Time over one single ball got us on the back foot down our right side It was 3, could have easily been 6/7 and it was Mickey Mouse defending Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wasyls Pec Deck Posted 21 November 2021 Share Posted 21 November 2021 I thought he was one of the better performers yesterday 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Langston Posted 21 November 2021 Popular Post Share Posted 21 November 2021 "Our entire defence is a shambles, I'm not picking on Amartey" *Proceeds to post exclusively in the Amartey thread, scrambling to pin anything and everything on the bloke 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Fresh Posted 21 November 2021 Share Posted 21 November 2021 9 minutes ago, Col city fan said: Whether Albrighton or Amartey (I suspect it was both), Chelsea clearly targeted our right side of the defence. It was unfeasible how one, long diagonal ball could catch us off guard so many times. Chilwell should have scored his first chance (poor miss), Hudson-Odoi could have easily scored from that side (just went over the bar). Time over one single ball got us on the back foot down our right side It was 3, could have easily been 6/7 and it was Mickey Mouse defending If you suspected it was both why didn't you initially mention Albrighton rather than making a point of them apparently targeting Amartey himself? Better centre halves than Amartey will struggle against Hudson-Odoi and Chilwell with an actual wing back next to them let alone a makeshift one. Let's be honest that Hudson-Odoi chance was pretty much all Albrightons fault, Amartey does pretty well to not go diving in after he skips past Albrighton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcfc_forever Posted 21 November 2021 Share Posted 21 November 2021 Don’t know why Amartey is being singled out when Soyuncu was poor again, and not played anywhere near his ability this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lako42 Posted 21 November 2021 Share Posted 21 November 2021 Him and Albrighton were our best players yesterday. Evans was so much worse. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Col city fan Posted 21 November 2021 Share Posted 21 November 2021 Just now, Lako42 said: Him and Albrighton were our best players yesterday. Evans was so much worse. Oh Jesus… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majaco Posted 21 November 2021 Share Posted 21 November 2021 Our defence needs coaching. We need to drop zonal marking. We need to aim to get back to our successful pressing and defending from the front . Amartey should be good enough but frankly none of our defence currently is as there is a collective responsibility. Evans is currently not good enough:. he is part of a defence shipping goals. It doesn't mean he has to be dropped Amartey has captained Ghana. Evans is often superb. Soyuncu at times is unbelievably good. In front of them Ndidi is an excellent DCM. Quality defensive coaching would make a difference. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonezy Posted 21 November 2021 Share Posted 21 November 2021 Yeez @Col city fan. Blaming Amartey for yesterday's shambles, when he was one the few actually putting in a decent (read decent, not fanatstic) effort. To blame him for any of the goals seems harsh. Yeah Chillwell got through a few times, but he is playing his best football ever right now and Amartey's wing back was Albrighton, who did not nearly help out as much as Castagne on the other side. Our problem is not Amartey, its being out of confidence, looking unmotivated, lacking hunger and looking seemingly disorganised. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post daddylonglegs Posted 22 November 2021 Popular Post Share Posted 22 November 2021 Amartey is often hung out to dry by a lot of fans so I’m glad he’s got a lot of people sticking up for him. He wasn’t great on Saturday but he is one of our most consistent performers. Let’s be honest, if we play 5 at the back he is 5th choice centre back. He shouldn’t be playing as much as he is at the moment - but whenever he’s called upon he clearly tries his hardest and you regularly get a 6-8/10 performance from him. I don’t think I’m alone in saying he’s probably my favourite player at the moment. Looks like he genuinely gives a shit and is playing near the best of his abilities most weeks. Stick at it Dan the man 👊🏻 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVFox Posted 22 November 2021 Share Posted 22 November 2021 Seriously has his limitations but….if the season stopped tomorrow would he get player of the season? Quite a sign of how flat we’ve been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unabomber Posted 22 November 2021 Share Posted 22 November 2021 14 minutes ago, LVocey said: Seriously has his limitations but….if the season stopped tomorrow would he get player of the season? Quite a sign of how flat we’ve been. Not if col is voting 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unabomber Posted 22 November 2021 Share Posted 22 November 2021 On 21/11/2021 at 06:56, Col city fan said: I think you’re all deluded kids Time and time again yesterday, Chelsea were specifically hitting the long ball from central positions, down our right side to Chilwell. Clearly part of their game plan. Just watch the parts where Kasper made the worldy save from the Chilwell shot and their final goal where Amartey absolutely switches off, doesn’t follow his man and he has a tap-in I’m convinced you’re watching different games to me, or the cult of Amartey has become so strong on here that you have blurred vision. OUR DEFENSIVE FRAILTIES ARE NOT ALL ABOUT AMARTY (did you all read that for future reference?) But a significant amount are due to his awful positioning. You won’t change your mind btw. And meanwhile we are dropping like a stone Of all the players to have a go at you chose the one who is no more than a squad player and is actually doing alright. I don’t get it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad biker Posted 22 November 2021 Share Posted 22 November 2021 Yeah dropping like a stone, plummeted from 12th all the way down to errrrr 12th :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Col city fan Posted 22 November 2021 Share Posted 22 November 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, daddylonglegs said: Amartey is often hung out to dry by a lot of fans so I’m glad he’s got a lot of people sticking up for him. He wasn’t great on Saturday but he is one of our most consistent performers. Let’s be honest, if we play 5 at the back he is 5th choice centre back. He shouldn’t be playing as much as he is at the moment - but whenever he’s called upon he clearly tries his hardest and you regularly get a 6-8/10 performance from him. I don’t think I’m alone in saying he’s probably my favourite player at the moment. Looks like he genuinely gives a shit and is playing near the best of his abilities most weeks. Stick at it Dan the man 👊🏻 He’s not hung out to dry on here! Quite the opposite I’d say. He’s become a cult figure that people clearly refuse to debate or criticize any more. It’s very similar to the ‘cult of Cambiasso’, where he could have played an absolute stinker for us, but would still get a 7 on the post match player ratings thread. As I’ve said before, it’s bizarre but it’s a foxes talk thing I think Edited 22 November 2021 by Col city fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky Posted 22 November 2021 Share Posted 22 November 2021 At least Big Dan had a meaningful shot, more than virtually every other player did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unabomber Posted 22 November 2021 Share Posted 22 November 2021 Just now, Corky said: At least Big Dan had a meaningful shot, more than virtually every other player did. If only that had gone in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post daddylonglegs Posted 22 November 2021 Popular Post Share Posted 22 November 2021 10 minutes ago, Col city fan said: He’s not hung out to dry on here! Quite the opposite I’d say. He’s become a cult figure that people clearly refuse to debate or criticize any more. It’s very similar to the ‘cult of Cambiasso’, where he could have played an absolute stinker for us, but would still get a 7 on the post match player ratings thread. As I’ve said before, it’s bizarre but it’s a foxes talk thing I think No one should be above criticism and Amartey certainly isn’t. He has however won the Premier League with us and is regularly a reliable performer for us (despite regularly playing out of position) so maybe you should cut him some slack just as much as some should criticise him. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Col city fan Posted 22 November 2021 Share Posted 22 November 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, daddylonglegs said: No one should be above criticism and Amartey certainly isn’t. He has however won the Premier League with us and is regularly a reliable performer for us (despite regularly playing out of position) so maybe you should cut him some slack just as much as some should criticise him. Which I do. Read the thread through. But I think a good example on here of people jumping on the bandwagon of the Amartey love in is that I think I was the ONLY poster to point out that Chelsea on Saturday clearly targeted our right side of defence. If you watched the game it was clear as crystal. That struck me of them having done their homework and knowing that the Albrighton/Amartey combo was where they’d exploit us the most. And so it proved. I say it because I think it was very very apparent Edited 22 November 2021 by Col city fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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