Les-TA-Jon Posted 29 September 2021 Share Posted 29 September 2021 (edited) I don't know why people have framed the Youri situation this summer / this season as some big mystery. It's obvious that he's a great player, he knows it, other clubs know it. He knows his contract is up next summer [correction: he knows he'll have 1 year left next summer], he knows he can play for pretty much any of the big clubs. He knows he's good enough and 'deserves' regular European football. There's obviously a question mark over whether we can provide that. And he stands to gain nothing from signing a contract with us in the summer window just gone or now. So he's waiting to see our season goes and what interest develops in January/next summer. I think if we get Top 4 or win the Europa he signs on, with everyone full in the knowledge that he'll still soon leave with a big fee to a big club, or we don't and he leaves sooner rather than later. Leaving, even on a reduced fee, is more valuable to us, having had his services for this season than selling him in the summer window just gone. Edited 29 September 2021 by Les-TA-Jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messerschmitt Posted 29 September 2021 Share Posted 29 September 2021 52 minutes ago, Les-TA-Jon said: I don't know why people have framed the Youri situation this summer / this season as some big mystery. It's obvious that he's a great player, he knows it, other clubs know it. He knows his contract is up next summer, he knows he can play for pretty much any of the big clubs. He knows he's good enough and 'deserves' regular European football. There's obviously a question mark over whether we can provide that. And he stands to gain nothing from signing a contract with us in the summer window just gone or now. So he's waiting to see our season goes and what interest develops in January/next summer. I think if we get Top 4 or win the Europa he signs on, with everyone full in the knowledge that he'll still soon leave with a big fee to a big club, or we don't and he leaves sooner rather than later. Leaving, even on a reduced fee, is more valuable to us, having had his services for this season than selling him in the summer window just gone. I agree with with everything you say, however there are elements to Youri's game that aren't perfect and he has had a couple of very ordinary spells at this club, it's been mentioned, I'm not sure how true it is, that Youri needs playing regularly to keep his rhythm or momentum up, an ordinary spell at Man U or some other top team and with the squads they have he could find himself out. Things didn't work out at Monaco. We might just be the perfect club for Youri. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacreblueits442 Posted 29 September 2021 Share Posted 29 September 2021 1 hour ago, Les-TA-Jon said: I don't know why people have framed the Youri situation this summer / this season as some big mystery. It's obvious that he's a great player, he knows it, other clubs know it. He knows his contract is up next summer, he knows he can play for pretty much any of the big clubs. He knows he's good enough and 'deserves' regular European football. There's obviously a question mark over whether we can provide that. And he stands to gain nothing from signing a contract with us in the summer window just gone or now. So he's waiting to see our season goes and what interest develops in January/next summer. I think if we get Top 4 or win the Europa he signs on, with everyone full in the knowledge that he'll still soon leave with a big fee to a big club, or we don't and he leaves sooner rather than later. Leaving, even on a reduced fee, is more valuable to us, having had his services for this season than selling him in the summer window just gone. .....contracts expires June 2023!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue ROI Posted 29 September 2021 Share Posted 29 September 2021 He's probably holding on to find out if clubs like Barca or Real Madrid are going to be stronger by next summer before making a decision. I've accepted that he won't sign an extension for us. Getting 3.5 seasons from him would be good going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScrumpyJack Posted 29 September 2021 Share Posted 29 September 2021 Realistically he’s been a great servant and we are likely to lose him. He’s not irreplaceable, but he’s a damn good player. Definitely seems like there is a trend of younger players running down their contracts and leaving on a free to the bigger clubs. Hopefully this isn’t the case for long as it massively benefits the bigger clubs that can pay bumper wages to a large number of players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJD_LCFC Posted 29 September 2021 Share Posted 29 September 2021 With Youri likely to leave, with only 18 months left on his contract. I would guess he will be sold in the summer to recoup some of the money paid for him. Really hope he stays but if Barcelona, Real Madrid come in for him I will certainly wish him all the best. Interested to see how much our fans think we will get for him with one year left on his contract. Ings went for 30 million, I would hope we can get at least that. And we have Soumare as his replacement and maybe Praet to come back in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 29 September 2021 Share Posted 29 September 2021 29 minutes ago, Unique FC said: With Youri likely to leave, with only 18 months left on his contract. I would guess he will be sold in the summer to recoup some of the money paid for him. Really hope he stays but if Barcelona, Real Madrid come in for him I will certainly wish him all the best. Interested to see how much our fans think we will get for him with one year left on his contract. Ings went for 30 million, I would hope we can get at least that. And we have Soumare as his replacement and maybe Praet to come back in. Ings has a ‘English’ premium and soton knew Villa had a lump of grealish dosh and Villa needed to do the deal before it leaked soumare isn’t youri - so we would have to evolve our way of playing praet is only coming back if he has a crap season - otherwise Torino are invoking their option to buy If things are going badly in jan, could we perhaps try and sell YT then to maximise his fee? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fox_up_north Posted 29 September 2021 Share Posted 29 September 2021 I'd say we put out the word (quietly) that whoever wants him in Jan can have him, make a bit of a bidding war of it I suppose. Wishful thinking, probably, but if we said £55+ add ons and bonuses (appearances, winning a cup, etc) and get some of the big boys biting, then that works for us. It might have to be that we do 2 years in, 1/2 years out of Europa and that's fine. For a club like us, that's amazing and if we can treat Youri right, that sends massive signals to the youngsters around the world who dream of UCL every week and big clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJD_LCFC Posted 29 September 2021 Share Posted 29 September 2021 5 hours ago, st albans fox said: Ings has a ‘English’ premium and soton knew Villa had a lump of grealish dosh and Villa needed to do the deal before it leaked soumare isn’t youri - so we would have to evolve our way of playing praet is only coming back if he has a crap season - otherwise Torino are invoking their option to buy If things are going badly in jan, could we perhaps try and sell YT then to maximise his fee? Agreed, definitely can get the best fee for Youri in January, Youri might want to sit out his contract for 18 months and move for a free and get a massive signing on fee. Financially, probably for us better to sell in January. However I would keep until the summer to give us a chance of doing well in Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sampson Posted 3 October 2021 Share Posted 3 October 2021 Dunno if he's been overplayed or his head has been turned or what, but he's been desperately poor so far this season. If we hadn't farmed out his only potential replacement in Praet we might have someone to rest him with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maynefox Posted 3 October 2021 Share Posted 3 October 2021 Poor today and I think he has not been himself this season. Clearly he is off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFS Posted 3 October 2021 Share Posted 3 October 2021 Shit today. If you don’t want to be here Youri don’t play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretPro Posted 3 October 2021 Share Posted 3 October 2021 Shit today, massively shit. Literally the worst player on the pitch. All very strange Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UniFox21 Posted 3 October 2021 Share Posted 3 October 2021 He's off his game. Passive, losing possession easily and slow on the ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will1981 Posted 3 October 2021 Share Posted 3 October 2021 needs dropping Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hales Posted 3 October 2021 Share Posted 3 October 2021 5 minutes ago, Sampson said: Dunno if he's been overplayed or his head has been turned or what, but he's been desperately poor so far this season. If we hadn't farmed out his only potential replacement in Praet we might have someone to rest him with. I don't understand The Brendan and Praet situation and letting him go? He isn't even using KDH? Youri looks knackered and fed up! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrispinLA in Texas Posted 3 October 2021 Share Posted 3 October 2021 He played so many games, think he's mentality exhausted.... remember last year he was everywhere, if we had Praet we could have rested him 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kopfkino Posted 3 October 2021 Share Posted 3 October 2021 Proper shrinking violet too. For the supposed manager on the pitch, he’s nowhere to be seen when the tough gets going Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton Fox Posted 3 October 2021 Share Posted 3 October 2021 1 minute ago, Hales said: I don't understand The Brendan and Praet situation and letting him go? He isn't even using KDH? Youri looks knackered and fed up! Im sure he let him go because we have KDH - he played on Thursday.. and was absolutely woeful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdb Posted 3 October 2021 Share Posted 3 October 2021 I thought he was OK. Surrounded by inferior players. Must be frustrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzell Posted 3 October 2021 Share Posted 3 October 2021 Poor performance but tbf most of the squad is out of form. The whole team needs a kick up the arse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ttfn Posted 3 October 2021 Share Posted 3 October 2021 Still the only player in the team passing it forwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hales Posted 3 October 2021 Share Posted 3 October 2021 I think we need to feign injury and keep him here for international break. They all need to be here and on the training ground going back to basics and sorting this out. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky Posted 3 October 2021 Share Posted 3 October 2021 1 minute ago, ttfn said: Still the only player in the team passing it forwards. Dropping him would make us even worse. Not in good form yet has played a key role in goals in the last three league games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxesWalk Posted 3 October 2021 Share Posted 3 October 2021 Has been awful all season, but I still think it stems from the defence. Midfield is dropping back to compensate for our lack of stability, and then we can’t find the passes and get trapped in our own half. Only nacho can hold up the ball and he isn’t getting picked… 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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