Maddison

[hackneyfox]

48 minutes ago, indierich06 said:

Because a) it's symptomatic of his big-time attitude and b) boohoo have literally exploited the **** out of people in this city with their factories.

Boohoo are just using factories that already existed in Leicester.

The abuse of workers starts at factory level where people are paid a lot less than the minimum wage.

If Boohoo paid more for the product would the owners increase the hourly wage?

Seems the abuse runs from Label all the way down to factory owner.

[indierich06]

6 minutes ago, hackneyfox said:

Boohoo are just using factories that already existed in Leicester.

The abuse of workers starts at factory level where people are paid a lot less than the minimum wage.

If Boohoo paid more for the product would the owners increase the hourly wage?

Seems the abuse runs from Label all the way down to factory owner.

I'm sure the brand is fully aware of the conditions, and doesn't appear to care. So, for me, personally, I would not have any interest in working for them if they offered me some sponsorship deal. Not like he's hard up either.

[hackneyfox]

2 hours ago, indierich06 said:

I'm sure the brand is fully aware of the conditions, and doesn't appear to care. So, for me, personally, I would not have any interest in working for them if they offered me some sponsorship deal. Not like he's hard up either.

Have you read this?

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/aug/28/boohoo-leicester-factories-went-to-war

 

Boohoo and other manufacturers got adverse publicity due to pay and conditions in factories both here and abroad. Boohoo have clearly decided to do something avout it hence them rocking up in Leicester.

 

What causes those problems is up for dispute.

Is it because they've driven down pay by not paying enough for the product or would the factory owners screw their staff whatever they received from the brands?

 

There's also the consumer to blame, if you're happy to buy cheap shit from Boohoo and Primark then how do you think someone at the bottom of the pile will get a living wage.

Edited 3 September 2021 by hackneyfox

[los dedos]

23 minutes ago, hackneyfox said:

Have you read this?

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/aug/28/boohoo-leicester-factories-went-to-war

 

Boohoo and other manufacturers got adverse publicity due to pay and conditions in factories both here and abroad. Boohoo have clearly decided to do something avout it hence them rocking up in Leicester.

 

What causes those problems is up for dispute.

Is it because they've driven down pay by not paying enough for the product or would the factory owners screw their staff whatever they received from the brands?

 

There's also the consumer to blame, if you're happy to buy cheap shit from Boohoo and Primark then how do you think someone at the bottom of the pile will get a living wage.

This is spot on, i don't why Boohoo get all the bad press . I worked in the print industry for 20 years and know exactly what goes on in Leicester .

Firstly Leicester supplies nearly every High street and online uk store . So to make out its a Boohoo thing is way of the mark .

Also its almost impossible to Police, the practice of having a fully compliant factory . Then once they've got the order they will out source most of the work to the sweat shops . 

The buck stops with the owners !

[HighPeakFox]

Just watched every angle of the Kevin goal at Norwich. Maddison providing good comedy, writhing on the floor 'injured' until the goal goes in, then he's off and running. Hate it when anyone does that, hate it that he does it too.

[Dahnsouff]

23 hours ago, fuchsntf said:

A trainer/manager has to look at the beginning of the season, to see if One of their Top players are featuring to form...

We as fans can in a komfortable Seat & now react After 3 games....Easy innit..

But then if you have been concentrating, you also notice, from our wrote ins, outside Vardy's goal, Nobody as turned-up...

Comically in this order the better players

 

Amartey,.... best-last man standing...

Thomas......a couple of wobbly moments,But still Learning & been Left dry,from more experienced Team mates

Ricardo...... ( but had his very avg moments)

Nacho........only a few minutes, But Great dart & move, to Open Space for Albrightons goal.General Play no Major worries

Castagna ...( a few minutes),

Perez... .......( who actually started ok)

Soyuncu......a Mix n Pik beginning,   with some Silly poor mistakes,But still with Good solid headers & interceptions

 

Newboy-subs...

 

< <<<Our Mainstream about here......>>>>>

 

I guess People Love a case, that Blinds them conveniently, to their own hero players struggles..

Being also silly....We are 3pts better off than last season, by the simple fact Maddison helped to created the movement,that helped us to beat a relegation

Threatened side ( Not für same side obviously) where last season we lost...

But Everything at the moment, is a puff of wind,with some fans Making unnecessary noise After 3 games, again with a plaster & Bandaged squad...

You misunderstand. Maddison is clearly extremely skilful and possesses the ability to change games. He just does so too infrequently, the expectations are far higher than others and rightly so, so comparing him to someone like Amartey is folly. Perez is a better comparison, however it’s hard to even put them in the same arena, as Maddison is a mile above. However, until Maddison can and does give consistency he can be criticised. 
 

I also recognise the inconsistency in somehow forgiving Amartey, Perez, etc due to his inferiority compared to Maddison, but I will not withdraw that criticism, nor do I think it should be.

 

And I would refer you to your own statement in bold when it comes to hero/struggles. 

[Hoopla10]

4 hours ago, pmcla26 said:

I don't really know enough about B to comment, but with regards to A, I disagree. It's a lucrative brand deal, wouldn't we all do the same for the money he's probably getting paid for it? He's only doing what's best financially for him and his family. 

Ignoring the personal benefit to Maddison (that's between himself and accountant) there is a CLUB benefit for our players to have high profiles and valued branding. When Ronaldo is paid immoral weekly salaries ManU will obviously see value in shirt sale, but the LARGER profit is in having Ronaldo's brand attached to the club. It provides larger sponsorship deals and outreach into national and international markets. Mads isn't close to the profile of Ronaldo but the logic applies. 

 

Regards to A. No real point appointing blame, Boohoo, manufacturer... they all work within the system. Hoping they operate ethically is just that hope. The system is the thing to blame. Change that and everything is forced to align.  

[Chrysalis]

On 03/09/2021 at 11:56, indierich06 said:

I'm sure the brand is fully aware of the conditions, and doesn't appear to care. So, for me, personally, I would not have any interest in working for them if they offered me some sponsorship deal. Not like he's hard up either.

They building their new factory in Leicester which to me says it all, they want to employ the same workers.

[FoxyLeon]

On 02/09/2021 at 20:36, wardyfox86 said:

This is simply not true. He was very much part of the group of players that broke COVID rules last season. 

 

Exactly.....And what else can you find about Perez?

 

We know that Maddison actually spent that match day/weekend playing Golf...And still plays now, how is that 'professionalism' for a guy with a hip problem?

The stuff about his shagging around whilst his Mrs is pregnant, doesn't really bother me, but again, it's another stick to bash him with for some.

It's just like this modelling/promotion stuff now....I have no problems with him doing it whatsoever.

But when you're purposely increasing your public profile, you're going to increase the criticism you face, when you're not doing well.

 

 

Everybody on here slags off Perez.

Maddison, over the past 6 months, looks like he is doing his best impression of Perez.

So is Maddison just as poor a player as Perez? Or, is Maddison not performing to the level he should?

[weller54]

1 hour ago, FoxyLeon said:

 

Exactly.....And what else can you find about Perez?

 

We know that Maddison actually spent that match day/weekend playing Golf...And still plays now, how is that 'professionalism' for a guy with a hip problem?

The stuff about his shagging around whilst his Mrs is pregnant, doesn't really bother me, but again, it's another stick to bash him with for some.

It's just like this modelling/promotion stuff now....I have no problems with him doing it whatsoever.

But when you're purposely increasing your public profile, you're going to increase the criticism you face, when you're not doing well.

 

 

Everybody on here slags off Perez.

Maddison, over the past 6 months, looks like he is doing his best impression of Perez.

So is Maddison just as poor a player as Perez? Or, is Maddison not performing to the level he should?

The both of them need benching! 

KDH deserves a chance!.. so did Praet.

[Tom12345]

49 minutes ago, weller54 said:

The both of them need benching! 

KDH deserves a chance!.. so did Praet.

Totally.

 

To see Praet leaves, it is very disappointing. We looked so good when he played with Tielemans first half of last season. He made others look good because he is a selfless player and did others’ dirty work. 

[wardyfox86]

2 hours ago, FoxyLeon said:

 

Exactly.....And what else can you find about Perez?

 

We know that Maddison actually spent that match day/weekend playing Golf...And still plays now, how is that 'professionalism' for a guy with a hip problem?

The stuff about his shagging around whilst his Mrs is pregnant, doesn't really bother me, but again, it's another stick to bash him with for some.

It's just like this modelling/promotion stuff now....I have no problems with him doing it whatsoever.

But when you're purposely increasing your public profile, you're going to increase the criticism you face, when you're not doing well.

 

 

Everybody on here slags off Perez.

Maddison, over the past 6 months, looks like he is doing his best impression of Perez.

So is Maddison just as poor a player as Perez? Or, is Maddison not performing to the level he should?

They've both, rightfully, had their place in the squad questioned. Maddison because he is out of form, or getting his priorities wrong. But... the quality is there to actually affect a game, his form around the turn of the year proved that. Perez, on the other hand, just doesn't possess the quality to get to those levels.

 

I can find nothing else wrong with Perez' professionalism, I won't criticise his effort either. His continued selection isn't his fault, but he simply isn't good enough to be starting for us. He will never affect a game the same way Maddison (in form) can. 

[fuchsntf]

On 03/09/2021 at 12:48, hackneyfox said:

Boohoo are just using factories that already existed in Leicester.

The abuse of workers starts at factory level where people are paid a lot less than the minimum wage.

If Boohoo paid more for the product would the owners increase the hourly wage?

Seems the abuse runs from Label all the way down to factory owner.

& Customers...

 

[trabuch]

Not that long ago Maddison was vying for a place in the England squad with Grealish. He's miles from that now. He needs managing. We all know he's good enough - but his mind set is off. 

[SHANE_]

1 hour ago, Tom12345 said:

Totally.

 

To see Praet leaves, it is very disappointing. We looked so good when he played with Tielemans first half of last season. He made others look good because he is a selfless player and did others’ dirty work. 

Praet was that good he’s gone to a team who narrowly avoided relegation in a  weaker league 

[fuchsntf]

13 hours ago, trabuch said:

Not that long ago Maddison was vying for a place in the England squad with Grealish. He's miles from that now. He needs managing. We all know he's good enough - but his mind set is off. 

Why...Dont People acknowkedge,accept he s still Coming back from a Bad injury, that he still needs to build up to Full Match fitness..

With a worry,that he really might be struggling to cope...body wise,

Plus he himself,coaches,Management are trying to to coax  & Nurse him,with others through this tough period 

But no.!!!.. Some Club fans have forgot to support & encourage...Why Chase the cynical & negatives based totally on nothing...!!!

 

Why try and Insuate his mind Set is off,or is Everyday life somehow is wrong....

Any other off-pitch noise questions over his choices are IMO irrelevant & pathetic..I

 

 

[ARM1968]

I’d rather have Madders than not, but I have a nagging suspicion that he may be broken and that he will spend half of the season out. 

[st albans fox]

17 minutes ago, ARM1968 said:

I’d rather have Madders than not, but I have a nagging suspicion that he may be broken and that he will spend half of the season out. 

Your nagging suspicion goes well with his nagging injury! 

[Jimmy]

4 hours ago, fuchsntf said:

Why...Dont People acknowkedge,accept he s still Coming back from a Bad injury, that he still needs to build up to Full Match fitness..

With a worry,that he really might be struggling to cope...body wise,

Plus he himself,coaches,Management are trying to to coax  & Nurse him,with others through this tough period 

But no.!!!.. Some Club fans have forgot to support & encourage...Why Chase the cynical & negatives based totally on nothing...!!!

 

Why try and Insuate his mind Set is off,or is Everyday life somehow is wrong....

Any other off-pitch noise questions over his choices are IMO irrelevant & pathetic..I

 

 

because he is in the team week in week out and we are carrying him, if he is not fit take yourself out of the the team if the manager won't

[Shamomoa]

Watching this england game id take lingard over maddison at the moment (and he doesn't get a game for man u) he needs to up his game alot to get into this england team, same with barnes tbf surely he can be on the same level if not better than saka! We have a few players that could get in there they just need to be on form/not injured! Would love one or a couple of our foxes to make the world cup squad but they need to up there game! 🦊🦊

[Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot]

I think our best shot at a Leicester player making the world Cup squad isn't madison or barnes, but by some distance James Justin. 

[PAULCFC]

Go and look at Marcs goal from all the angles at LCFC,the second one sums him up!

[fuchsntf]

42 minutes ago, Jimmy said:

because he is in the team week in week out and we are carrying him, if he is not fit take yourself out of the the team if the manager won't

Rubbish..absolute nonsense...The Coaching team, Rodgers  will have created a Basic Platform & plan,individual

to Nurse their Top individual players back After Major injuries...We have seen hes Not yet Played a Full 90mins...

[sacreblueits442]

49 minutes ago, Jimmy said:

because he is in the team week in week out and we are carrying him, if he is not fit take yourself out of the the team if the manager won't

....I wouldn't think he could do that without being accused of a breach of his contract!!!

This could easily end up in court, in order to prove the reason he is refusing to play, he cannot arbitrarily decide he is not going to play, without a good reason.

[majaco]

Lingard playing well against Andorra leads to Maddison criticism.  Anyone a little bored?