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The “ I’ve got something to say, but it doesn’t warrant its own thread “ thread.

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Several months ago I was banned from the Climate Change Thread for locking horns with the misinformation posted by Blue Brett coinciding with Mark's discovery that members could be blocked access to specific threads. A unfortunate case of the wrong place, wrong time again. I was going to request reinstatement. Quite frankly, having the misfortune to have witnessed a series of jaw dropping posts this afternoon - this is probably currently for the best.  

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4 minutes ago, SpacedX said:

Several months ago I was banned from the Climate Change Thread for locking horns with the misinformation posted by Blue Brett coinciding with Mark's discovery that members could be blocked access to specific threads. A unfortunate case of the wrong place, wrong time again. I was going to request reinstatement. Quite frankly, having the misfortune to have witnessed a series of jaw dropping posts this afternoon - this is probably currently for the best.  

 

There comes a point I think you have to accept that this is such a tiny bubble and people online are generally so entrenched anyway that you really aren't going to have much impact on the world by investing your energy in to arguing with people on foxestalk about science, religion, politics or culture wars. 

 

If you enjoy it, sure, debate to your hearts content but don't do it out of any kind of sense of moral obligation and definitely don't do it if it's having any negative impact on your mental health at all. 

 

I barely touch General Chat these days. I just don't think it's worth my time. 

 

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6 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

There comes a point I think you have to accept that this is such a tiny bubble and people online are generally so entrenched anyway that you really aren't going to have much impact on the world by investing your energy in to arguing with people on foxestalk about science, religion, politics or culture wars. 

 

If you enjoy it, sure, debate to your hearts content but don't do it out of any kind of sense of moral obligation and definitely don't do it if it's having any negative impact on your mental health at all. 

 

I barely touch General Chat these days. I just don't think it's worth my time. 

 

I can see what you mean Finn and when I didn't have the spoons and things were going on in my personal life, I would have thought the same.

 

But personally, for me, that one issue is so important that any positive input I make, anything that might say neutrals that may be watching, is worth the cost.

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39 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

There comes a point I think you have to accept that this is such a tiny bubble and people online are generally so entrenched anyway that you really aren't going to have much impact on the world by investing your energy in to arguing with people on foxestalk about science, religion, politics or culture wars. 

 

If you enjoy it, sure, debate to your hearts content but don't do it out of any kind of sense of moral obligation and definitely don't do it if it's having any negative impact on your mental health at all. 

 

I barely touch General Chat these days. I just don't think it's worth my time. 

This is such a thoughtful, sensitive, well meaning post. 

 

I don't really disagree at all, but I know how maddening it is to see threads so weakly moderated, when such misinformation AND disinformation is reinforced. 

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Every time I contribute my thoughts on a subject there's about a 50/50 it gets deleted so I wonder what the point is really. Especially as I'm totally falling out of love with the game anyway. Whole thing is just a masterclass in extracting money from the British working classes for an increasingly commercialised and soulless experience. 

 

Not that I've been to a live match for years now. 

 

It's not like this is an actual community. Just something I signed up to when Sven was in charge to pass the time. 

 

And to be honest I probably prefer intellectual spaces now. Not going to do a Col and fully delete my account but I should probably take the hint that I'm not welcome here and spend my time where I am. 

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Must admit I also find my interest waning in football. Of course the Premier League and FA Cup wins and the European runs were amazing but since the FA Cup win I find myself less and less making time to watch a Leicester match. It’s getting to the point where it’s more “I’ll watch Leicester if I have nothing better to do”.

 

The most recent Euros I only watched the final as well. 
 

It’s partly different priorities in life and partly that I just feel the game has got boring. Every team plays the same way and the same team always win the league.

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I know they refer to different things but 'Great Britain' is so much better than 'the UK'. I don't know exactly when or why the latter became the more popular term but it's a shame it did. 

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The tone and accent of a commentator or co-commentator go a long way in terms of how good they sound and therefore how good you think they are overall.

 

Two big examples are Scottish co commentators sounding good which probably elevates McCoist and,  controversially,  female Aussie or Kiwis when compared to female UK counterparts. The Olympics rugby 7s comms was the Kiwi Rikki Swannell who sounded brilliant and far better than any female British commentator in football.

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1 hour ago, Nalis said:

The tone and accent of a commentator or co-commentator go a long way in terms of how good they sound and therefore how good you think they are overall.

 

Two big examples are Scottish co commentators sounding good which probably elevates McCoist and,  controversially,  female Aussie or Kiwis when compared to female UK counterparts. The Olympics rugby 7s comms was the Kiwi Rikki Swannell who sounded brilliant and far better than any female British commentator in football.

With a Kiki commentator I'm just always distracted from the sport by the wacky vowel sounds. 

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17 hours ago, bovril said:

I know they refer to different things but 'Great Britain' is so much better than 'the UK'. I don't know exactly when or why the latter became the more popular term but it's a shame it did. 

Great Britain is the island we live on. United Kingdom is the British Isles minus the Republic of Ireland.

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Just now, boots60 said:

Great Britain is the island we live on. United Kingdom is the British Isles minus the Republic of Ireland.

Well technically UK is GB + NI.

 

GB was used up until I would say the early 2000s to mean the UK, I am sure. Now it's rarely used. watch speeches by say Tony Blair and Keir Starmer.

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8 hours ago, Nalis said:

The tone and accent of a commentator or co-commentator go a long way in terms of how good they sound and therefore how good you think they are overall.

 

Two big examples are Scottish co commentators sounding good which probably elevates McCoist and,  controversially,  female Aussie or Kiwis when compared to female UK counterparts. The Olympics rugby 7s comms was the Kiwi Rikki Swannell who sounded brilliant and far better than any female British commentator in football.

Scot Andrew  Cotter always sounds good on whatever sport he is commentator for. Even when during lockdown when telling us about the competition between his dogs.

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3 minutes ago, Foxdiamond said:

Scot Andrew  Cotter always sounds good on whatever sport he is commentator for. Even when during lockdown when telling us about the competition between his dogs.

 

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On 31/07/2024 at 15:48, Sampson said:

Must admit I also find my interest waning in football. Of course the Premier League and FA Cup wins and the European runs were amazing but since the FA Cup win I find myself less and less making time to watch a Leicester match. It’s getting to the point where it’s more “I’ll watch Leicester if I have nothing better to do”.

 

The most recent Euros I only watched the final as well. 
 

It’s partly different priorities in life and partly that I just feel the game has got boring. Every team plays the same way and the same team always win the league.

The saturation coverage doesn't help. You can see every team all the time now. The game is microanalysed. 

 

In the past you might have seen teams a few times on TV, when you played them and on highlights shows. Probably better, really, than knowing everything.

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2 hours ago, boots60 said:

United Kingdom is the British Isles minus the Republic of Ireland.

Not fully true. As the Isle of Man and Channel Islands are also part of the British Isles but not part the UK. 
 

Having lived in Portsmouth and therefore not on mainland England for many years I’m inclined to be pedantic and say “Great Britain is the island” is also not always technically true as most of Portsmouth (Portsea Island) and the Isle of Wight (as well as hundreds of Scottish islands) aren’t on mainland Great Britain but are still considered part of Great Britain for political purposes.


Great Britain just means England + Scotland + Wales.

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2 hours ago, Sampson said:

Not fully true. As the Isle of Man and Channel Islands are also part of the British Isles but not part the UK. 
 

Having lived in Portsmouth and therefore not on mainland England for many years I’m inclined to be pedantic and say “Great Britain is the island” is also not always technically true as most of Portsmouth (Portsea Island) and the Isle of Wight (as well as hundreds of Scottish islands) aren’t on mainland Great Britain but are still considered part of Great Britain for political purposes.


Great Britain just means England + Scotland + Wales.

I would strongly advise you not to come here to jersey and tell them they’re part of the British isles. 
Channel Islands are islands within the British isles and are self governed crown dependencies 

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To echo @SecretPro:

 

"I'm white English and most often refer to my self as British. Borders aren't really my thing (they are after all just a political/economic construct and increasingly a dividing line) and I mostly consider myself a person of planet Earth. I'm not really arsed if I'm English, British, Swedish or Yiddish to be honest."

 

Amen to that. And to add to it, such thought may well be a matter of survival, not just moral choice.

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