notnow john Posted 3 March 2022 Share Posted 3 March 2022 41 minutes ago, Unabomber said: I know he is obviously trolling but I just don’t get it. Why go out of your way to insult Vardy when you consider his career. He came from non league and won the premier league as well as breaking the goal scoring record. He then won the FA cup. He should be hailed as the legend he is and used to inspire future players. I believe that Gabby is just a jealous little man who envies all that Vardy has done while his own career went the complete opposite way. He hasn’t the brains to troll,somebody wrote it down in big letters for him to read. The facts are - Vardy is the 14th highest scorer in premier league history. Only six players have a better goals to games ratio ,(Shearer,Aguero,Henry,Kane,Van Persie and Saliah ) He has scored more consecutive goals than any player in premier league history. , 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post martyn Posted 3 March 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 3 March 2022 (edited) Same crap Michael Owen spouts about Vardy To say Vardy isn't a "natural finisher" is a lazy trope based on the perceived ruggedness of his playing style. It's just a rubbish throwaway description that means nothing. When it actually comes to sticking the ball in the net, he scores all types of goals, and is surely one of the most clinical when it comes to chance conversion. That is the main metric that should be used when discussing "natural finishing". Edited 3 March 2022 by martyn 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 3 March 2022 Share Posted 3 March 2022 41 minutes ago, Fox92 said: Don't get me started on Darren Bent. Only scored more than 15 league goals twice. Not a better finisher than Vardy. The rest, especially Cole/Yorke/Fowler/Kane, I'll agree with though. I don't get why people have to compare everything though. For Vardy to even be on that list, considering he didn't start playing top flight football until he was about 28 is staggering (same applies to Ian Wright). To be fair Bent was backing Vardy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notnow john Posted 3 March 2022 Share Posted 3 March 2022 3 minutes ago, notnow john said: He hasn’t the brains to troll,somebody wrote it down in big letters for him to read. The facts are - Vardy is the 14th highest scorer in premier league history. Only seven players have a better goals to games ratio ,(Shearer,Aguero,Henry,Kane,Van Persie ,Saliah and Wright) He has scored more consecutive goals than any player in premier league history. , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobbyburton Posted 3 March 2022 Share Posted 3 March 2022 (edited) I still don't get the 'not a natural finisher' argument at all, it's utter horse sh*t. Jamie has scored some of the most outrageous goals in Premier League history, and if Aguero scored them they would be considered that by everyone. People just take him at face value and can't seem to accept a very normal lad who came up through the non league could have as much finesse and class as he has. He is the absolute definition of a clinical, natural finisher. 22 more goals and he's in the top 10 ever (which I'm sure he'll get) so nonsense like this can't even be argued. Edited 3 March 2022 by Nobbyburton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacamion Posted 3 March 2022 Share Posted 3 March 2022 I don’t care if he finishes “unnaturally”. He finishes, doesn’t he. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmayne7 Posted 3 March 2022 Share Posted 3 March 2022 7 minutes ago, martyn said: Same crap Michael Owen spouts about Vardy To say Vardy isn't a "natural finisher" is a lazy trope based on the perceived ruggedness of his playing style. It's just a rubbish throwaway description that means nothing. When it actually comes to sticking the ball in the net, he scores all types of goals, and is surely one of the most clinical when it comes to chance conversion. That is the main metric that should be used when discussing "natural finishing". Exactly, he's always right up there on the shot conversion charts, the very thing that defines somebody's finishing ability. It's funny as well when people talk about guys like Yorke and Drogba, who are undoubtedly great players but played for the dominant teams of the time and they only had a few really good seasons or one incredible season in Drogba's case. No doubt I'd want Vardy over them in a finishing contest. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 3 March 2022 Share Posted 3 March 2022 1 hour ago, Sambiasso said: As a natural finisher Vardy is better than a lot of those he's named, why? Simply because he's scored more goals from less chances than a lot of those were afforded. That's the 1 easy metric to measure being a natural finisher. There's obviously more that goes in to technique and the quality of chances etc but again if anything that works in Vardy's favour too. He's one of the most ruthless players the PL has ever seen. Typical of Agbonlahor though, complete clown. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumbleFox Posted 3 March 2022 Share Posted 3 March 2022 1 minute ago, Ric Flair said: As a natural finisher Vardy is better than a lot of those he's named, why? Simply because he's scored more goals from less chances than a lot of those were afforded. That's the 1 easy metric to measure being a natural finisher. There's obviously more that goes in to technique and the quality of chances etc but again if anything that works in Vardy's favour too. He's one of the most ruthless players the PL has ever seen. Typical of Agbonlahor though, complete clown. Was going to say something similar. In terms of shot conversion he’s better than half of those listed. So he’s empirically a better finisher than them surely? Whether that’s “natural” or not is pure subjective conjecture. Weird. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strokes Posted 3 March 2022 Share Posted 3 March 2022 3 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: As a natural finisher Vardy is better than a lot of those he's named, why? Simply because he's scored more goals from less chances than a lot of those were afforded. That's the 1 easy metric to measure being a natural finisher. There's obviously more that goes in to technique and the quality of chances etc but again if anything that works in Vardy's favour too. He's one of the most ruthless players the PL has ever seen. Typical of Agbonlahor though, complete clown. Good job we aren’t naming strikers that are better finishers than gabby, we would be here for weeks. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sampson Posted 3 March 2022 Share Posted 3 March 2022 Yeah, you can argue players like Rooney, Drogba, Andy Cole, Yorke, Sheringham etc. are all round better players, that's fine. But Vardy is obviously a better finisher than those players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BenTheFox Posted 3 March 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 3 March 2022 How are people triggered by Agbonlahor??? However, I'll also bite. Vardy is unquestionably a premier league great. I think there's still an element of bias/snobbery towards him because he plays for Leicester, but ironically that should also work in his favour. I'll put it this way, we would not have won the league if we had some of those other players upfront instead of Vardy. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
don_danbury Posted 3 March 2022 Share Posted 3 March 2022 gabby abholfohwhore obviously been on the sauce before he went on 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe90lcfc Posted 3 March 2022 Share Posted 3 March 2022 43 minutes ago, notnow john said: He hasn’t the brains to troll,somebody wrote it down in big letters for him to read. The facts are - Vardy is the 14th highest scorer in premier league history. Only six players have a better goals to games ratio ,(Shearer,Aguero,Henry,Kane,Van Persie and Saliah ) He has scored more consecutive goals than any player in premier league history. , Also add, he is the 2nd highest goal scorer from over the age of 30 behind Ian Wright Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumbleFox Posted 3 March 2022 Share Posted 3 March 2022 1 minute ago, Joe90lcfc said: Also add, he is the 2nd highest goal scorer from over the age of 30 behind Ian Wright I think he’s first now no? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 3 March 2022 Share Posted 3 March 2022 Just now, RumbleFox said: I think he’s first now no? Yeah by 1 I think now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe90lcfc Posted 3 March 2022 Share Posted 3 March 2022 Just now, Fox92 said: Yeah by 1 I think now. Amazing, his records speak volumes about his quality, he should easily be regarded in the top 10 of all time premier league strikers EASY 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Finnegan Posted 3 March 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 3 March 2022 Irrelevant ex player with ridiculous opinion on radio station thats entire business model is provoking reactions. How shocking. He claims Darren Bent is a better finisher than Vardy. Right there in the notes. Why did anyone even bother listening to the clip? 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe90lcfc Posted 3 March 2022 Share Posted 3 March 2022 And people are right, if he was at one of the big 6 clubs he would get a lot more praise 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ealingfox Posted 3 March 2022 Share Posted 3 March 2022 How is anyone quantifying the extent to which a finish or finisher is 'natural'? Such a bullshit faux-analytical expression. Its meaningless. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParkerPen Posted 3 March 2022 Share Posted 3 March 2022 31 minutes ago, Sampson said: Yeah, you can argue players like Rooney, Drogba, Andy Cole, Yorke, Sheringham etc. are all round better players, that's fine. But Vardy is obviously a better finisher than those players. there is no way Andrew Cole is better than Vardy by any criteria 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe90lcfc Posted 3 March 2022 Share Posted 3 March 2022 9 minutes ago, ParkerPen said: there is no way Andrew Cole is better than Vardy by any criteria Yea a good way of looking at it, replace Cole with vardy in that 90s Man U side 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyKopCorner Posted 3 March 2022 Share Posted 3 March 2022 9 minutes ago, Joe90lcfc said: Yea a good way of looking at it, replace Cole with vardy in that 90s Man U side 😬 Andy Cole is a very poor mans Jamie Vardy - Has some similar attributes but no where near as good 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPeakFox Posted 3 March 2022 Share Posted 3 March 2022 Why is anyone listening to such obviously staged debate? I recommend fresh air. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sm1 Posted 3 March 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 3 March 2022 Alot of people think Vardy can only play one way, the ball over the top, counter attack. They use that label to belittle him, e.g. Owen. They don't want to believe that Vardy is an extraordinary footballer, his intelligence, touch, determination and finishing ability is unreal. Look at the 1st Burnley goal, when everybody is jogging back, Vardy sees that Kasper is going to hoof the ball so sprints to get back on side. That changed the whole game. Unfortunately he didn't get a fair go with England, because then he would've shown the greater public how good he is. Regardless, we know he's one of the greatest strikers of his generation. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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