davieG Posted 4 March 2022 Author Share Posted 4 March 2022 It's all semantics semantics /sɪˈmantɪks/ noun the branch of linguistics and logic concerned with meaning. The two main areas are logical semantics, concerned with matters such as sense and reference and presupposition and implication, and lexical semantics, concerned with the analysis of word meanings and relations between them. Semantics is the study of meaning in language. It can be applied to entire texts or to single words. For example, "destination" and "last stop" technically mean the same thing, but students of semantics analyze their subtle shades of meaning. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinowe Soorie Posted 4 March 2022 Share Posted 4 March 2022 I think the main thing you can say about Mr Vardy, is that his game has improved as he has aged. Other footballers careers have plummeted, when they have reached their early 30’s. Gabby Agbonlahor being a prime example 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton Fox Posted 4 March 2022 Share Posted 4 March 2022 All that needs to be said is Sergio Aguero is in awe of Jamie Vardy that says how good he is.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Bear Posted 4 March 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 4 March 2022 Jesus wept! Are you lot still going on about this?!! Talk about being triggered. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nobbyburton Posted 4 March 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 4 March 2022 1 minute ago, The Bear said: Jesus wept! Are you lot still going on about this?!! Talk about being triggered. Steve Bull wasn't a natural finisher 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nalis Posted 4 March 2022 Share Posted 4 March 2022 2 minutes ago, The Bear said: Jesus wept! Are you lot still going on about this?!! Talk about being triggered. Couldnt agree more, state of the last three pages. Fvckin embarrassing, move on. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Criggers Posted 4 March 2022 Share Posted 4 March 2022 30 minutes ago, davieG said: It's all semantics semantics /sɪˈmantɪks/ noun the branch of linguistics and logic concerned with meaning. The two main areas are logical semantics, concerned with matters such as sense and reference and presupposition and implication, and lexical semantics, concerned with the analysis of word meanings and relations between them. Semantics is the study of meaning in language. It can be applied to entire texts or to single words. For example, "destination" and "last stop" technically mean the same thing, but students of semantics analyze their subtle shades of meaning. That’s how football punditry makes it’s money. Start a bunch of arguments that nobody can win and allow for as many people as possible to wade in to that debate. I saw a video on YouTube the other day that said “who is faster, rugby or NFL players?” No context, no figures, no conversions of yard/m coverage. Just alternate clips of rugby and NFL players running breakaways. The comments section had several opinions though. And that’s ultimately all it is, opinions. What is the definition of a natural finisher? Someone who doesn’t ever have to work at or practice finishing in training? Or just someone who makes it look easy? Load of pish. TalkSport just trying to spark discussion/argument/confrontation as always. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chocolate Teapot Posted 4 March 2022 Share Posted 4 March 2022 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Nobbyburton said: Steve Bull wasn't a natural finisher David Hirst was a much better player. Edited 4 March 2022 by Chocolate Teapot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_77 Posted 4 March 2022 Share Posted 4 March 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bert said: Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying he’s not a natural finisher, he’s got some aspects of it. But wouldn’t say he’s an all round natural finisher. I would say deadly more than natural. Serious question: what’s the difference? Vardy can score with either foot, from inside or outside of the box, and has a decent number of headed goals for a striker his height. He goes through dry spells but so does every other striker. Hell, most of Agbonlahor career was a dry spell. Natural, deadly, efficient, whatever word we use to describe him, he’s one of the best strikers of his generation and an incredible goal scorer. Edited 4 March 2022 by The_77 Took me three tries to spell Agbonlahor’s name correctly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Oxlong Posted 4 March 2022 Share Posted 4 March 2022 5 minutes ago, The_77 said: Serious question: what’s the difference? Vardy can score with either foot, from inside or outside of the box, and has a decent number of headed goals for a striker his height. He goes through dry spells but so does every other striker. Hell, most of Agbonlahor career was a dry spell. Natural, deadly, efficient, whatever word we use to describe him, he’s one of the best strikers of his generation and an incredible goal scorer. I was an unnatural finisher but deadly. Deadly at shanking a shot to the corner flag from 10 yards and skying it over from 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nalis Posted 4 March 2022 Share Posted 4 March 2022 13 minutes ago, Chocolate Teapot said: David Hirst was a much better player. Struck one of the hardest ever shots recorded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Posted 4 March 2022 Share Posted 4 March 2022 36 minutes ago, The_77 said: Serious question: what’s the difference? Vardy can score with either foot, from inside or outside of the box, and has a decent number of headed goals for a striker his height. He goes through dry spells but so does every other striker. Hell, most of Agbonlahor career was a dry spell. Natural, deadly, efficient, whatever word we use to describe him, he’s one of the best strikers of his generation and an incredible goal scorer. I’m certainly not disputing any of the last paragraph. Maybe more so he’s had to work hard to become a natural finisher even though that doesn’t make sense in context. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_77 Posted 4 March 2022 Share Posted 4 March 2022 25 minutes ago, Bert said: I’m certainly not disputing any of the last paragraph. Maybe more so he’s had to work hard to become a natural finisher even though that doesn’t make sense in context. Fair— I get that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingsX Posted 4 March 2022 Share Posted 4 March 2022 Good on ya FT, you've shown this nonentity from Villa what may not be said about our GOAT. Job done Shall we move on? What’s next on the agenda? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALC Fox Posted 4 March 2022 Share Posted 4 March 2022 3 hours ago, Bert said: I’m certainly not disputing any of the last paragraph. Maybe more so he’s had to work hard to become a natural finisher even though that doesn’t make sense in context. Fair point, that. I think I know what you mean. From what I've seen of his non-league days a lot of his goals were quite similar. He's had to work hard to adapt his game to higher levels but the talent was always there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Nacho Posted 4 March 2022 Share Posted 4 March 2022 Why are we all still being reeled in by TalkSport sh*te in 2022? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 4 March 2022 Share Posted 4 March 2022 (edited) All this natural finisher stuff is crap, all that matters is the number of goals you score. Edited 4 March 2022 by coolhandfox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxile5 Posted 4 March 2022 Share Posted 4 March 2022 2 minutes ago, coolhandfox said: All this natural finisher stuff is crap, all the matter is the number of goals you score. I could understand it if it were a striker who was the best of the generation. Like, there's an argument to be had with Wright and Shearer. But Bent? Baffling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 4 March 2022 Share Posted 4 March 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, foxile5 said: I could understand it if it were a striker who was the best of the generation. Like, there's an argument to be had with Wright and Shearer. But Bent? Baffling. Bent Ratio 0.38 goals per game, Vardy 0.48 goals per game. Ends the argument for me. Edited 4 March 2022 by coolhandfox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxile5 Posted 4 March 2022 Share Posted 4 March 2022 16 minutes ago, coolhandfox said: Bent Ratio 0.38 goals per game, Vardy a goal every 0.48 goals per game. Ends the argument for me. Of course it does. Striking is about goals and to argue with Vardy, 14th highest in the Premier league history, is just crackers. There are 13 better than him and if they're not in the discussion it's not a discussion. How Darren Bent is in the equation is baffling. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldeagle Posted 4 March 2022 Share Posted 4 March 2022 Natural finisher or not he’s still a ****ing legend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 4 March 2022 Share Posted 4 March 2022 Are we still on this ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunbury Fox Posted 4 March 2022 Share Posted 4 March 2022 1 hour ago, foxile5 said: Of course it does. Striking is about goals and to argue with Vardy, 14th highest in the Premier league history, is just crackers. There are 13 better than him and if they're not in the discussion it's not a discussion. How Darren Bent is in the equation is baffling. Bent is in the equation because he also works for Talk Sport. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimsmallman Posted 4 March 2022 Share Posted 4 March 2022 (edited) https://www.instagram.com/p/CV3dUkfMz1T/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link Forgot to post this in this thread at the time, probably the best place for it. I am slowly trying to convince former wrestlers to become Leicester supporters at work. Shirt size 3XL Edited 4 March 2022 by jimsmallman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiffToff88 Posted 4 March 2022 Share Posted 4 March 2022 12 minutes ago, jimsmallman said: https://www.instagram.com/p/CV3dUkfMz1T/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link Forgot to post this in this thread at the time, probably the best place for it. I am slowly trying to convince former wrestlers to become Leicester supporters at work. Shirt size 3XL I hope he shaved his back before putting that shirt on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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