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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65155054

 

 

Brendan Rodgers: Leicester City sacking is a dramatic fall from grace for manager and club
By Phil McNulty
BBC Sport
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Leicester City former manager Brendan Rodgers
Leicester's defeat by Crystal Palace on Saturday proved the final straw as Brendan Rodgers was sacked
The departure of Brendan Rodgers from Leicester City is the culmination of a dramatic fall from grace for both club and manager - with the fear of falling even further the catalyst behind the move.

Rodgers arrived at the Foxes in February 2019 after winning all seven domestic trophies available to him during a successful tenure at Celtic, leaving the adoration he enjoyed at Parkhead to succeed Claude Puel at the King Power Stadium.

For a time, 50-year-old Rodgers enhanced a reputation as one of the most progressive coaches in the game as Leicester produced the attacking football that was his trademark - the high point being the club's first FA Cup victory when Thomas Tuchel's Chelsea were beaten 1-0 at Wembley in May 2021.

It assured Rodgers of his place in Leicester history, but Saturday's last-minute defeat at Crystal Palace - now under the guidance of returning veteran Roy Hodgson - was the final straw for owners who saw the spectre of relegation come into even sharper view and could not wait any longer for Rodgers to show signs of inspiring a revival.


Leicester are in the bottom three after six league games without a win, that fear of the drop forcing the board to act in the manner of fellow strugglers Everton, Leeds United and Southampton by wielding the axe.

Rodgers deserves credit for his FA Cup success but his time at Leicester will also be defined by two devastating final days of Premier League seasons that shaped his and the club's ability to enjoy further success.

On the surface, finishing fifth in both 2019-20 and 2020-21 represented fine achievements but the fact Leicester missed out on Champions League football on the final day both times as they lost 2-0 to Manchester United then 4-2 to Tottenham meant bitter disappointment.

The FA Cup win rightly allowed the 2021 season to be painted in a glorious light - was the club's first FA Cup not better as tangible success than finishing fourth in the league?

However, it could also be suggested with some justification the loss to Spurs the following week was the beginning of the end for Rodgers and Leicester City as operators in the upper echelons, a time which also saw that magnificent against-the-odds title win in 2015-16.

These were savage blows because Leicester not only lost out on the profile of Champions League football but also the riches that came with it, the club's owners and chairman Aiyawatt Srivaddhanaprabha subsequently pulling in the purse strings to ensure they did not fall foul of Financial Fair Play rules.

Leicester reached the semi-finals of the inaugural Europa Conference League last season but they faded amid inconsistency in the league, finishing eighth.

The decline has continued this season, with Rodgers unable to revamp his squad, influential title-winning keeper Kasper Schmeichel leaving for Nice and time finally catching up with talismanic 36-year-old striker Jamie Vardy.

There were question marks over the club's recruitment under Rodgers, although they suffered a blow in the summer when one his biggest successes - Wesley Fofana, signed from St. Etienne for £36.5m in October 2020 - moved to Chelsea for an initial £70m fee on the final day of the transfer window after missing much of the previous season with a broken leg.

Leicester's squad was clearly in need of hefty renewal but they did not sign an outfield player until the final day of the summer transfer window.

Harry Souttar, Victor Kristiansen and Tete came in at a cost of £30m in January but Rodgers could not fashion a consistent upturn and the graph has only been heading in one direction lately.

There was also a belief that Rodgers should have been getting more out of a squad still laced with quality in the shape of players such as James Maddison, Youri Tielemans and Harvey Barnes. He was also unable to solve long-running defensive flaws that saw cheap goals conceded on an infuriatingly regular basis.

Impressive wins at Aston Villa and at home to Spurs, 4-2 and 4-1 respectively, hinted at improvement but they were false dawns and the FA Cup fifth-round loss at home to Championship side Blackburn Rovers was damaging for Rodgers and Leicester.

Now, with 10 league games to go, he has paid the price and the club hierarchy must decide their next move.

It will be a desperate personal setback for Rodgers, who rebuilt his reputation at Celtic after his sacking by Liverpool in October 2015, obtaining hero status with one half of Glasgow before angering many fans by leaving to move back to the Premier League.

For a time he regained his previous status as a sought-after manager, linked with a variety of jobs from Arsenal to Spurs and even - unlikely admittedly given his previous links with Liverpool - Manchester United. He was touted in some quarters as having the credentials to manage at international level, with England mentioned.

Rodgers was exuding positivity even in defeat at Selhurst Park. Instead, this was the end of his time at Leicester.

The personable Rodgers will certainly be an attraction for clubs in the future, including those in the Premier League, but the high-end posts will be out of reach for now after the manner of his end at Leicester.

Rodgers, a Spanish speaker, has talked in the past about being open to working abroad and it easy to see his undoubted coaching skills transitioning into that environment.

He has also seen contemporary Roberto Martinez, who managed across Stanley Park at Everton when Rodgers was at Liverpool and was one of his predecessors at Swansea City, land plum international jobs with Belgium then Portugal

Rodgers will rightly feel he is at least the equal of the Spaniard in terms of stature, ability and successes.

For now, though, Leicester City will attempt to secure their short-term future after taking this emergency action while Rodgers will take stock and ponder his long-term prospects.

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On 30/03/2023 at 22:11, Jobyfox said:

 

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Funny…all other English Strikers had the same chances,against weaker than England team,of any period….but Kane did it…More so than plonkers who hide behind walls of social-media forums…

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6 hours ago, fuchsntf said:

Funny…all other English Strikers had the same chances,against weaker than England team,of any period….but Kane did it…More so than plonkers who hide behind walls of social-media forums…

Yep … see my post a few down from the one you’re replying to 👍

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1 hour ago, Jobyfox said:

Yep … see my post a few down from the one you’re replying to 👍

It's Monday my day off, for tracking back..But today is a freeby Rodgers-Holiday..

So I believe you foxonajob...:P

 

Kane best English striker who we should be proud of...& Ban ALL naysayers...:rolleyes:

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https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/brendan-rodgers-sacked-leicester-city-8317275

 

BBC Sport
Phil McNulty wrote: "The personable Rodgers will certainly be an attraction for clubs in the future, including those in the Premier League, but the high-end posts will be out of reach for now after the manner of his end at Leicester.

"Rodgers, a Spanish speaker, has talked in the past about being open to working abroad and it easy to see his undoubted coaching skills transitioning into that environment.

"He has also seen contemporary Roberto Martinez, who managed across Stanley Park at Everton when Rodgers was at Liverpool and was one of his predecessors at Swansea City, land plum international jobs with Belgium then Portugal.

"Rodgers will rightly feel he is at least the equal of the Spaniard in terms of stature, ability and successes.

"For now, though, Leicester City will attempt to secure their short-term future after taking this emergency action while Rodgers will take stock and ponder his long-term prospects."

 

Sky Sports
Rob Dorsett said: "I think they have agonised an awful lot over this decision. This is not an easy decision for Leicester to have made. I think in truth a number of Premier League clubs would have pulled the trigger earlier such has been Leicester's poor form.

"There was a feeling that Brendan Rodgers was building something for the long-term at Leicester with all their ambitions to compete with the biggest clubs in the Premier League in the years to come.

"However, it feels to me that this is very much a decision that Leicester's bosses have taken for the short-term rather than the long-term. They felt as though the slide in terms of performances couldn't continue.

"They have taken this decision with a heavy heart and my understanding is that they gave Rodgers every chance to turn things around and that he had earned that chance to turn things around.

"My understanding is that Leicester do not have a ready-made replacement lined up and there is no specific timeframe that they are working to in terms of finding someone to take over from him."


The Telegraph
John Percy wrote: "There will be many pundits and neutrals who repeat the old tropes of ‘be careful for what you wish for’ and ‘it’s only Leicester, what do they expect’?

"These should be ignored, for the people who actually pay the money to watch games have been frustrated for months, or longer.

"Perhaps Rodgers should have gone earlier, for it has to be remembered that those first two and a half years were special. He did not deserve the situation to become so toxic.

"He will return, most probably in the Premier League, and the chance to recharge will be good for him.

"Now the change has come and Leicester are locked in a 10-game shootout for survival.

"The prospect of Championship football does not bear thinking about."

 

Guardian
Ben Fisher wrote: "Rodgers was supported by the Leicester hierarchy after a miserable start to this season with the chairman, Aiyawatt Srivaddhanaprabha, maintaining belief that the former Celtic and Liverpool manager was capable of turning things around.

"It had long been felt that as long as Srivaddhanaprabha was confident of avoiding relegation then Rodgers’s position was safe, but defeat and a poor performance at Palace – a relegation rival – prompted the decision that large sections of the fanbase have been calling for in recent months. The chairman said Leicester felt 'compelled to take alternative action to protect our Premier League status'."

 

Independent
Miguel Delaney wrote: "It was when the Leicester City hierarchy noticed a new disconnect between Brendan Rodgers and his players on the training ground this week that they decided results on the pitch could no longer be tolerated. The realisation was the club’s run was not getting better, and they had to act to save their Premier League status.

"If that would appear to suggest the Northern Irishman has reached a ceiling as a coach, it really says much more about the potential of such clubs in the competition. It is also a warning. The widespread expectation, after all, was that Rodgers himself was going to seek to leave in the summer.

"Leicester are the latest in a series of well-run Premier League 'model clubs' - following Swansea City, Southampton and West Brom - to find they couldn’t keep the idea going indefinitely. Ambition ultimately came up against financial reality, and there are few managers as personally ambitious as Rodgers, or few competitions as economically exacting as the Premier League."


Daily Mail
James Sharpe wrote: "Leicester City fans finally got their answer. They hung banners and sung songs but all it took for Brendan Rodgers to lose his job was for the Foxes to drop into the relegation zone.

"Defeat by Crystal Palace with the last kick of the game on Saturday – in a match they were outshot 31 to three by a Roy Hodgson team – left them 18th.

"West Ham's win puts them 19th. One point from their last six. Eight since the World Cup. The worst team in the division since the restart.

"The fans wanted it but the owners didn't. Leicester chairman Aiyawatt Srivaddhanaprabha, known as Khun Top, thought and hoped Rodgers could still get them through and keep them up. In the end, he felt he had no choice...

"The timing of the decision is odd. There's no succession plan and backroom staff members Mike Stowell and Adam Sadler will take charge of a monumental game against Aston Villa at the King Power Stadium on Tuesday night.

"History suggests changing the manager this late does little to alter your fate. Since 2010, all managerial changes from March onwards at clubs in the relegation zone have still seen those sides go down. The tightly-squeezed bottom half of the table will give Leicester hope.

"Whoever replaces Rodgers has a job on his hands. Not just to keep Leicester up but to fix the mess that's left behind."

 

Press Association
Jonathan Veal wrote: "Leicester were 'compelled' to sack Brendan Rodgers in a bid to maintain their Premier League status but insist his place in the club’s history is assured.

"The Foxes dropped into the bottom three after Saturday’s last-gasp defeat at Crystal Palace, which extended their winless run to six games, and their position in the top flight is in real danger going into the final stretch of the season.

"Rodgers, who recently celebrated four years in charge at the King Power Stadium, delivered two top-five finishes in the Premier League and the club’s first ever FA Cup success in 2021, but leaves by mutual consent.

"Chairman Aiyawatt Srivaddhanaprabha insisted that the club had “experienced some of our finest footballing moments” during Rodgers’ reign but that the board were “compelled” to make a managerial change in order to avoid being relegated to the Championship...

"Rodgers took over from Claude Puel in February 2019 and immediately set about turning the Foxes into European challengers.

"They twice missed out on Champions League qualification with final-day defeats – finishing fifth in 2019/20 and 2020/21 – but Rodgers did get his side over the line in the 2021 FA Cup as the club won the famous competition for the first time in their history.

"They reached their first ever European semi-final last season with a run to the last four of the inaugural Europa Conference League before losing to Roma.

"But the landscape of the club changed in the summer, with financial constraints seeing a number of players leave – including star defender Wesley Fofana – and only one outfield player coming in.

"They started the campaign terribly, losing six of their first seven games, before picking up form and heading towards mid-table.

"However, a run of six games, including defeats against relegation rivals Southampton and Palace, proved too much and the board instigated the change."

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5 minutes ago, BenTheFox said:

We haven't received as much backlash as I was expecting for this. I've even seen a number of people who aren't Leicester fans defending the decision some asking how it hadn't happened sooner. 

Yeah from what I have been reading from the media it isn’t so bad and a lot of what they are saying makes sense. 

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32 minutes ago, BenTheFox said:

We haven't received as much backlash as I was expecting for this. I've even seen a number of people who aren't Leicester fans defending the decision some asking how it hadn't happened sooner. 

I've seen several comments on Twitter saying he wasn't backed and that he was hard done by with injuries etc. 

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14 minutes ago, foxfanazer said:

Chris Sutton was defending him on 606 last night. He's certainly got the backing of the mainstream media

You have to remember neither Chris Sutton or Robbie are the sharpest tools in the... thing they keep the tools in.

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15 minutes ago, StanSP said:

I've seen several comments on Twitter saying he wasn't backed and that he was hard done by with injuries etc. 

Yes, but that was always going to happen. There were comments saying that we had to try something to turn this around. 

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41 minutes ago, BenTheFox said:

We haven't received as much backlash as I was expecting for this. I've even seen a number of people who aren't Leicester fans defending the decision some asking how it hadn't happened sooner. 

Mixed I'd say at a glance over the social media platforms.

 

There are a lot that totally get it. 

 

There are also still a lot trotting out the same old nonsense PR spin.

 

Usually our own gormless fans on Facebook. Craig from Knighton "rogers woznt backed by the bord best maneger we ever had simple as" type stuff. 

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Just now, RoboFox said:

Mixed I'd say at a glance over the social media platforms.

 

There are a lot that totally get it. 

 

There are also still a lot trotting out the same old nonsense PR spin.

 

Usually our own gormless fans on Facebook. Craig from Knighton "rogers woznt backed by the bord best maneger we ever had simple as" type stuff. 

simple as indeed.

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2 hours ago, Unabomber said:

Talksport discussing it now. Fully expect Keown to be on the media Brendan bandwagon

To be fair he wasn't really as defensive of Rodgers as I expected, and Simon Jordan correctly said we'd be in decline for a long time and Rodgers was a good politician in the way he spins his own agenda 

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It's basically people who don't watch us at all saying how dare we not let him relegate us because he did something a few years ago. Can't be bothered with it. 

 

Seems alot of the media want him to go to spurs so fingers crossed. They'll turn on him in under a year. 

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14 minutes ago, turtmcfly said:

 

Be happy this dogshit it behind a paywall...

 

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/pep-guardiola-wouldve-struggled-to-do-a-better-job-than-brendan-rodgers-3mbf6fzk5

 

A sample (something tells me Martin didn't watch either the Palace or Brentford games. Or indeed, any of them)

 

Rodgers was a good manager for Leicester, and the chairman acknowledged this, even at the end. So why not let Rodgers continue being just that? A good manager, but going through a difficult time. A good manager, but in need of better support. Crystal Palace scored with a minute remaining on Saturday. Had Jean-Philippe Mateta’s goal not gone in — and he was onside by a whisker — Leicester would have been outside the bottom three and would have drawn two consecutive away games, with home matches against Aston Villa and Bournemouth up next. Leicester put four past Villa the previous time the teams met, only two months ago, and would fancy their chances against Bournemouth.

 

 

Even allowing for the ignorance on display here we would always be wary of playing Bournemouth.

 

We didnt beat them in the title winning season and has only 2 wins out of 11 against them in the Premier League.

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