The "do they mean us?" thread pt 3

[UniFox21]

1 hour ago, moore_94 said:

Currently having an absolute shocker as manager of Troyes in France

 

1 win, 5 draws, 12 losses in the league since he joined them

 

Should've stayed in Australia at Melbourne City where he won the league last season

Part of the city group isn't it? They're all about moving successful coaches or players along their pathway 

[foxile5]

1 hour ago, Aus Fox said:

If you run up and take an honest penalty and the keeper saves it, or you miss the target - it’s shit happens and most people get it and get over it pretty quickly.

If in a pressure situation you try and be a fancy Twat and chip it down the middle people will be a lot less forgiving. 
 

Whilst it was gutting lots of people willfully look past the fact that Nigel Pearson KNEW he took penalties that way and chose to have him take one.

 

Pearson carries the can as much as Kermorgant. You can't criticise the monkey and praise the organ grinder. It's shared culpability.

[Sampson]

1 minute ago, foxile5 said:

Whilst it was gutting lots of people willfully look past the fact that Nigel Pearson KNEW he took penalties that way and chose to have him take one.

 

Pearson carries the can as much as Kermorgant. You can't criticise the monkey and praise the organ grinder. It's shared culpability.

What? How did he know he took penalties that way? Do you genuinely think that every penalty taker takes exactly the same penalty 100% of the time in training. 

[Phil Bowman]

2 hours ago, Fox92 said:

But now I don't care about either. Couldn't care less if Watford bring merchandise out for "Deeney Day". Don't care about Kermogrant. We've won the Championship, Premier League, FA Cup and Community Shield since then.

Not only that, but if we'd won that Watford game we might have gone up that season and then 2016 wouldn't have happened.

 

To be honest we should be selling stuff celebrating Deeney's goal more than Watford should!

[Aus Fox]

4 minutes ago, foxile5 said:

Whilst it was gutting lots of people willfully look past the fact that Nigel Pearson KNEW he took penalties that way and chose to have him take one.

 

Pearson carries the can as much as Kermorgant. You can't criticise the monkey and praise the organ grinder. It's shared culpability.

Did he? How do you know this? Had Kermorgant taken many penalties like this before?

I remember seeing him take one for reading in a big game, and he smashed it into the corner.

I can’t imagine Nigel of all people would allow someone to take a penalty like this.

[CosbehFox]

Tbf there was a YouTube video of Yann’s goals the previous season and it included plenty of penalties taken in that style 

[foxile5]

7 minutes ago, Sampson said:

What? How did he know he took penalties that way? Do you genuinely think that every penalty taker takes exactly the same penalty 100% of the time in training. 

It was addressed in an interview with Pearson and he said he was aware that he took penalties that way.

 

But whatever, I don't care enough to fetch that interview out as I'm not gnashing my teeth over it anymore. Either you'll trust what I'm saying or you'll dismiss it.

[foxile5]

7 minutes ago, Aus Fox said:

Did he? How do you know this? Had Kermorgant taken many penalties like this before?

I remember seeing him take one for reading in a big game, and he smashed it into the corner.

I can’t imagine Nigel of all people would allow someone to take a penalty like this.

See above. I'm not expending my time looking for a decade old interview to slake your temper.

 

But at the 'Nigel of all people' remark. He signed him and played him.

Edited 7 May 2023 by foxile5

[davieG]

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stench-national-media-verdict-leicester-8425214

 

Telegraph
Leicester were a complete mess, a club seemingly heading in one direction. This was supposed to be their winnable game, with Champions League chasing Liverpool and Newcastle next. For a couple of hours, owner Aiyawatt Srivaddhanaprabha’s arms remained firmly folded.

Those who had boarded coaches early on this Bank Holiday initially were angry. They declared unfitness to don the shirt. Youri Tielemans – captain despite the fact he will depart irrespective of Leicester’s final standing – was jeered off. His replacement, Wilfried Ndidi, was jeered on. By the end, though, rage had morphed into resigned acceptance.

There was a desperate stench about Leicester from the start. A series of late challenges hinted at a difficult afternoon incoming. It was from one mistimed lunge – Dennis Praet on Antonee Robinson – that led to the opener.

 

Guardian
Aiyawatt Srivaddhanaprabha must have enjoyed better bank holiday Mondays. But the Leicester owner, who saw his side ripped apart by a rampant Fulham team that were unlucky to find themselves only 3-0 up at half-time thanks to goals from Willian, Carlos Vinícius and Tom Cairney, may fear that the worst is yet to come.

While Dean Smith pointed to the way his players briefly fought back after Cairney made it four through consolation goals from Harvey Barnes and a James Maddison penalty, a missed spot-kick from Jamie Vardy and another goal for the evergreen Willian only rubbed salt into the Leicester wounds.

With a stern-faced Srivaddhanaprabha watching from the Cottage pavilion as Fulham maintained their quest to reach a record points total in the Premier League under Marco Silva, Leicester’s concerns are mounting at the other end of the table.

With their final three games against the Champions League‑chasing Liverpool at home, then Newcastle away before entertaining West Ham on the final day, time is running out after wins for Everton and Nottingham Forest dragged Smith’s side into the bottom three.

 

BBC Sport
Trailing by three goals at the break, Leicester were booed off by the visiting fans and the mood only got bleaker when Cairney added Fulham's fourth in the 51st minute.

However, Barnes gave his side a glimmer of hope, before Vardy was caught by Bernd Leno midway through the second half - but when the striker missed the resulting spot-kick, any thoughts of an unlikely comeback ended.

Fulham soon added a fifth against a porous defence, with Leicester having now failed to keep a clean sheet in any of their past 20 games, an unwanted Premier League record.

There were ironic jeers when Maddison found the bottom corner from the spot in the 81st minute after he had been caught by Joao Palhinha in the box.

Barnes' 89th-minute strike made the scoreline look more respectable, but in truth the Foxes never looked like securing anything from the match.

 

Sky Sports
Leicester were lucky to only be 3-0 down at half-time, with Daniel Iversen producing two saves to deny Harrison Reed, while the visitors’ only chance saw Leno push Vardy’s shot wide after Antonee Robinson gave the ball away.

Leicester briefly looked more competent immediately after half-time, with Leno required to tip away Barnes’ shot, but their defence then went AWOL again, allowing Cairney all the time he needed to slot in his second after Kenny Tete charged down the right wing.

Barnes did get on the scoresheet with a deflected strike shortly after and the fightback looked on when Leno brought down Vardy in the area, but the goalkeeper kept out the striker’s tame effort.

Willian re-established the four-goal margin with the pick of the eight strikes, a bending effort from 25 yards, but Leicester’s dismal performance appeared to lull Fulham into complacency and they surrendered two goals to bring about a tense final period of the game.

 

Daily Mail
Dean Smith criticised the lack of urgency. James Maddison called it a lack of hunger. Harvey Barnes conceded the Leicester fans were quite within their rights to vent their fury at the players as they slipped deeper into relegation peril on a leaky day by the River Thames.

Fulham were rampant, three-up by half-time and four-up soon afterwards. Marco Silva's team were slick in transition and clinical in front of goal during this exhilarating opening to the game.

But, for an hour, Smith's team awful, soft throughout the centre of the team, devoid of resistance and painfully fragile at the back.

They improved and fought back and, ultimately, it would have been a tight finish if Jamie Vardy had not seen a second-half penalty saved, but Fulham coasted in with the game won and the main takeaway from Craven Cottage was that the Premier League champions of 2016 are going down if they continue to defend like this. They face Liverpool, next.

The Sun
John Terry has jumped out of the frying pan and into the mire with Leicester.

Terry, considered one of the finest centre backs of his time and a legendary leader from the back, quit a coaching job at floundering Chelsea to join Dean Smith’s survival battle.

He seems to have joined the only club in a bigger shambles than his beloved Blues.

Needing to stay tight and put up a fight, Leicester were four nil down after just 51 minutes of calamitous defending...

All the while, Terry squirmed in the dugout enduring the taunts of surprisingly raucous posh Fulham fans enjoying their moment to the max.

 

Press Association
Leicester slipped further into relegation trouble as they endured a woeful 5-3 defeat away to Fulham to end their three-game unbeaten run and inflict damage on their survival hopes.

Starting the game outside of the bottom three on goal difference, Dean Smith’s side were ripped apart in the first half at Craven Cottage as Willian, Carlos Vinicius and Tom Cairney all took advantage of shambolic defending to bury Leicester before the break.

Cairney got his second and his team’s fourth early in the second half before Willian completed a brace of his own, rifling in a fine solo effort.

Harvey Barnes scored two and James Maddison tapped in a penalty to give visiting supporters momentary cheer, but the result was never in doubt. The prospects of their team remaining a Premier League club look slim on the evidence of a defensive display every bit as bad as the scoreline suggested.

Fulham scored with their first chance of the game, though it was more by luck than design. Dennis Praet fouled Antonee Robinson out near the left touchline, and from the resulting free-kick Willian’s cross evaded everybody inside the box before bouncing up into the top corner past Daniel Iversen.

Leicester, sensing the severity of their predicament, rallied. Maddison crossed low for Barnes arriving inside the box but he failed to make sufficient contact to turn it home under pressure. At the other end, Cairney released Harrison Reed who went toe-to-toe with Caglar Soyuncu before the Leicester defender deflected his effort narrowly wide.

Fulham’s second arrived before the 20-minute mark and started with a Leicester mistake. Boubakary Soumare lost his footing and gave away possession in his own half, allowing Harry Wilson to race away upfield. From his pass nobody in blue went with Vinicius, who had the simple task of striding into the box and rolling it low past the exposed goalkeeper.

Bernd Leno saved well from Jamie Vardy as Leicester threatened immediately to half the arrears, but it was Fulham who were well in control, going close to a third after half an hour when Reed fired straight at Iversen from Willian’s cut-back.

Leicester were hanging on and Fulham came again when Robinson fizzed a cross straight across goal that failed to find a touch, before Vinicius headed inches wide as the ball came back in.

[rico]

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12877265/leicester-city-from-champions-to-the-championship-in-seven-years-rob-dorsett-assesses-the-foxes-demise

[The Doctor]

On 07/05/2023 at 13:02, Aus Fox said:

Did he? How do you know this? Had Kermorgant taken many penalties like this before?

I remember seeing him take one for reading in a big game, and he smashed it into the corner.

I can’t imagine Nigel of all people would allow someone to take a penalty like this.

TBF that was like 5/6 years after his miss for us, quite possible he learnt from that miss

[davieG]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-12067855/Leicester-sleepwalking-Premier-League-relegation-got-mess.html

 

No plan for life after Rodgers, poor recruitment... and treating their £95m training ground like a HOLIDAY CAMP! Leicester are sleepwalking towards Premier League relegation two years after winning the FA Cup, so how have they got themselves in this mess?
Leicester could be relegated by the time they face West Ham on the final day
Seven years after becoming English champions it marks a huge fall from grace
Here, Mail Sport examines how the Foxes have found themselves in this mess 
By TOM COLLOMOSSE FOR MAILONLINE

PUBLISHED: 07:53, 12 May 2023 | UPDATED: 08:19, 12 May 2023

The spectacle of James Maddison attempting on Twitter to clarify a post-match interview summed up the sorry state of Leicester City's season.

After yet another pitiful display and defeat at Fulham, where Leicester lost 5-3 to slip two points adrift of safety with three games remaining, Maddison said – with typical candour – that Leicester had not been 'hungry enough to want to win the game.'

Few could deny that, and Maddison did not seek to exclude himself from blame. That did not stop the inevitable social media pile-on, though, and instead of stepping away from his phone, the England midfielder went in for another go.

'What is wrong with social media, say 1 thing in an interview straight after a game and it gets taken way out of context,' he wrote on Twitter. 'When I say not hungry enough I mean aggressive and on the front foot in duels, not us wanting to win or realising the importance.'

The problem here is that lacking aggression in duels sounds suspiciously like a side without the stomach for the fight – something Leicester have struggled to find throughout the season.

James Maddison attempting to clarify a post-match interview summed up Leicester’s season

James Maddison attempting to clarify a post-match interview summed up Leicester's season

The Foxes are sleepwalking towards Premier League relegation after Monday's loss at Fulham

The Foxes are sleepwalking towards Premier League relegation after Monday's loss at Fulham

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Dean Smith's arrival had an initial impact, with Leicester taking five points from games with Wolves, Leeds and Everton. 

But with fixtures against Liverpool and Newcastle to come, that haul looks insufficient and – just seven years after winning the Premier League title – Leicester may already be relegated by the time they take on West Ham on the final day of the campaign.

Here Mail Sport examines how the Foxes – FA Cup winners two years ago – found themselves in this mess.

 
Recruitment

In early August 2021, as chairman Aiyawatt Srivaddhanaprabha carried the Community Shield around the Wembley pitch after the win over Manchester City, Leicester felt like one of the best-run clubs in Europe. Yet this was the summer that marked the start of the slide. 

Leicester committed about £60million on Patson Daka, Boubakary Soumare and Jannik Vestergaard, as well as bringing in Ryan Bertrand on a free transfer. No major player was sold.

Leicester have had no return on that investment and the failure to make a significant sale caused problems the following summer, when then-boss Brendan Rodgers feared the players were tiring of his message but was unable to overhaul his squad due to Leicester's Financial Fair Play concerns.

 
Management decisions

Hope for the best while planning for the worst. 

By sticking with Rodgers for so long when he had clearly reached the end of the line, Srivaddhanaprabha – known as 'Khun Top' – did the former but forgot about the latter.

Brendan Rodgers (left) was not backed in the transfer market and Leicester failed to prepare for life after their FA Cup-winning coach before sacking him

Brendan Rodgers (left) was not backed in the transfer market and Leicester failed to prepare for life after their FA Cup-winning coach before sacking him

The appointment of Dean Smith on an eight-game deal summed up their fuzzy thinking

The appointment of Dean Smith on an eight-game deal summed up their fuzzy thinking

When Rodgers sat down with the hierarchy for a pivotal meeting in January 2022, there were two options: change the coach, or change the players. 

Aiyawatt Srivaddhanaprabha and the board have made crucial mistakes this season

Aiyawatt Srivaddhanaprabha and the board have made crucial mistakes this season

Support Rodgers' vision and give the squad the 'healthy shake-up' he felt it needed to stay competitive, or try to move forward with the same group but a different leader. 

Leicester did neither and even when they did sack Rodgers on April 2, there was no plan for what happened next. 

Khun Top and the board hoped coaches Adam Sadler and Mike Stowell could muddle through until the end of the season and when that did not work, they interviewed numerous managers before settling for Smith on an eight-game deal. 

It was fuzzy thinking that did not match the severity of the situation.

 
Appetite

Some sources have even made the suggestion – strongly disputed by senior figures – that Leicester's £95million training ground itself, with its hotel-style rooms, swish dining areas and details tailored to meet a player's every need, had weakened the squad's hunger. 

Rodgers was a stickler for timekeeping but not everyone appeared to feel the same way, with players missing certain appointments and arriving late for others. 

'It's like a holiday camp,' lamented one earlier this season. 

Leicester will feel the benefits of this superb facility in years to come but at present, it looks like becoming the best training base in the Championship.

There is also a feeling - strongly denied by senior figures at the club - that Leicester players are treating their new £95million training facility 'like a holiday camp'

There is also a feeling - strongly denied by senior figures at the club - that Leicester players are treating their new £95million training facility 'like a holiday camp'

Leicester spent £95m on their new training complex - but it could be Championship-bound

Leicester spent £95m on their new training complex - but it could be Championship-bound

 
Future

'Sleepwalking towards relegation' was a phrase directed at Leicester as far back as last autumn but they have still not woken up. 

Maddison and Harvey Barnes will both be sold if the Foxes go down but that will not plug all the financial holes created by dropping out of the Premier League and there will have to be severe cuts to the wage bill across the club. 

If they somehow survive, Leicester will likely move for Graham Potter, long admired and out of work since leaving Chelsea in April. But Potter would surely not want to work in the second tier, meaning Leicester would either stick with Smith or move for a younger boss like Russell Martin of Swansea. 

Yet however the season ends, this campaign has been a lesson in how not to do things. These mistakes must never be repeated.

[davieG]

Martin Keown has labelled Leicester City a “disgrace” for finding themselves in the relegation zone.

 

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/leicester-city-disgrace-martin-keown-8437604

 

He maybe correct but I don't need this 'here for a last payday doing F all to preach to LCFC.

[urban.spaceman]

In case anyone needs cheering up.

[Matt]

Who knew Matt Le Tissier supported Leicester?!

[SouthStandUpperTier]

I'll have whatever James Cohen at the Daily Fail is smoking. KDH our most valuable asset at £26m?! 

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-12068907/Who-valuable-football-player-Premier-League-club.html

 

LEICESTER

Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall (£26million)

This one may come as a surprise. 

Despite the presence of Harvey Barnes and James Maddison within the Leicester squad, it's Dewsbury-Hall who is seen as their most valuable asset.

The 24-year-old has only scored two goals and registered two assists in the top-flight this campaign but is still recognised as one of the their top young players. 

His current deal runs until 2027, whereas Maddison's runs out next summer and Barnes' the year after that, which will negatively impact their potential transfer value.  

[Sly]

5 hours ago, SouthStandUpperTier said:

I'll have whatever James Cohen at the Daily Fail is smoking. KDH our most valuable asset at £26m?! 

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-12068907/Who-valuable-football-player-Premier-League-club.html

 

LEICESTER

Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall (£26million)

This one may come as a surprise. 

Despite the presence of Harvey Barnes and James Maddison within the Leicester squad, it's Dewsbury-Hall who is seen as their most valuable asset.

The 24-year-old has only scored two goals and registered two assists in the top-flight this campaign but is still recognised as one of the their top young players. 

His current deal runs until 2027, whereas Maddison's runs out next summer and Barnes' the year after that, which will negatively impact their potential transfer value.  

I’m guessing it’s the length of his contract, not so than anything else. If Barnes and Maddison were contracted until 2027, they’d be worth more. 

[blue army 1988]

5 hours ago, SouthStandUpperTier said:

I'll have whatever James Cohen at the Daily Fail is smoking. KDH our most valuable asset at £26m?! 

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-12068907/Who-valuable-football-player-Premier-League-club.html

 

LEICESTER

Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall (£26million)

This one may come as a surprise. 

Despite the presence of Harvey Barnes and James Maddison within the Leicester squad, it's Dewsbury-Hall who is seen as their most valuable asset.

The 24-year-old has only scored two goals and registered two assists in the top-flight this campaign but is still recognised as one of the their top young players. 

His current deal runs until 2027, whereas Maddison's runs out next summer and Barnes' the year after that, which will negatively impact their potential transfer value.  

😂😂 most valuable asset!!!!! KDH needs to learn how to pass a ball properly first.

 

It's a joke how the media just pluck things out of thin air.

[MickeyMouse]

[wrong thread]

Edited 15 May 2023 by MickeyMouse

[yorkie1999]

Forget the money bit and kdh is probably our most valuable asset as far as an actual player playing for us is. Him and Vardy look like the only 2 players who actually want to play for us, and maybe ndidi. 

[urban.spaceman]

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/champions-league-superclubs-liverpool-man-utd-barcelona-real-madrid-a9330431.html

[Nalis]

Knuckle draggers on BBC have your say with nonsensical ignorant comments like 'should never have sacked Ranieri'. My fault for reading them, football opinions from pre pubescent teen types.

[Steve Earle]

Interesting report by John Percy in the Telegraph. Using words, not for the first time, like gross incompetence, negligence and inquest suggests his days as semi-official club spokesman might be behind him. 
 

No doubt to his relief.

[Fightforever]

How does Rodgers have such good PR. Everyone seems to think Rodgers wasn't backed even though he's been given the most amount mount of money to spend we have ever given a manager.

 

He also mentions the poll where half the forum voted that they want Top to sell the club and calls us ungreatful.

Edited 16 May 2023 by Fightforever

[Gamble92]

17 hours ago, Nalis said:

Knuckle draggers on BBC have your say with nonsensical ignorant comments like 'should never have sacked Ranieri'. My fault for reading them, football opinions from pre pubescent teen types.

The resentment for this club cannot be underestimated for sacking Ranieri. We'd gone from the team every wanted to win the league, to the one everyone wanted to be relegated. The owners received a lot of hate from external sources too.

 

Vichai's death changed the narrative a hell of a lot. Almost made people forget that part of the history and just focus again on us being the people's club. 

 

I think it's always been ready to use at us again if we did go down, and now all these articles are loving attaching the title win to this. Likewise all the people still hating on us for (quite rightly) sacking Ranieri are back out in force.