SpacedX Posted 28 October 2021 Share Posted 28 October 2021 11 minutes ago, fuchsntf said: 2000 stories over Clappers,musc..singing..couldnt Really give a damn..!! You might if you had to endure this... I'm actually embarrassed posting it. If we must have goal music, then why not something less tacky with identity and significance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Voll Blau Posted 28 October 2021 Popular Post Share Posted 28 October 2021 24 minutes ago, moore_94 said: @Voll Blau @Plastik Man I imagine neither of you got involved celebrating along with the music at full time last night like the rest of the stadium seemed to then? People very obviously still get up and celebrate when we score, but then the music keeps it going longer than it normally would because people then sing along to it. Literally listen when we score goals in the below video, people celebrate when we score and then keep it going as people then sing along to the song. No, it has the absolute opposite effect most of the time. People take the end of the music as their cue to sit down and be quiet. It's effectively crowd control. Organic goal celebrations, on the other hand, usually lead into spontaneous singing and so on. 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 28 October 2021 Share Posted 28 October 2021 26 minutes ago, RonnieTodger said: That's fair and so are most of us. Good atmosphere enhances your match-day experience. I'm just talking what you'd associate with clubs and their stadiums / fans. I looked across to the Family Stand and saw a few lads just mindlessly whacking their clapper against their leg. I just don't get it. Family Stand fair enough, but it's around the whole ground. Feels more Ant & Dec's Saturday Night Takeaway than it does football. I just think grounds reflects the the range of society more as the game has become more inclusive and family friendly. I do think club need to become better at addressing the needs of different fan types. designated singing, standing areas, family areas etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
don_danbury Posted 28 October 2021 Share Posted 28 October 2021 7 minutes ago, Line-X said: You might if you had to endure this... I'm actually embarrassed posting it. If we must have goal music, then why not something less tacky with identity and significance? i like this song 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieG Posted 28 October 2021 Author Share Posted 28 October 2021 Football has changed on and off the pitch along with society and will continue too change the more it's televised into people's homes the more homogenised and 'clean' it will become. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 28 October 2021 Share Posted 28 October 2021 4 minutes ago, davieG said: Football has changed on and off the pitch along with society and will continue too change the more it's televised into people's homes the more homogenised and 'clean' it will become. Only because the overwhelming majority have let it become that way. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuchsntf Posted 28 October 2021 Share Posted 28 October 2021 29 minutes ago, Line-X said: You might if you had to endure this... I'm actually embarrassed posting it. If we must have goal music, then why not something less tacky with identity and significance? Crap innit... But I am not up to the line, what younger-fans like & want, Plus Player Input if any... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post davieG Posted 28 October 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted 28 October 2021 Just now, Sol thewall Bamba said: Only because the overwhelming majority have let it become that way. Not really it's natural progression, other sports are changing as well as people become more aware of the dangers that have existed both on and off the pitch. When you've watched the likes of Chelsea v Leeds kicking and trying to injure each other on the pitch and hordes of violent fans swarming through the streets threatening everyone in their wake where you were frightened to even go to games and would never risk taking your kids then I think many of the changes were not only needed but have made it considerably better. Society changes so does everything else associated. A few clappers is much more preferable to coins, bottles and flares being thrown at you, where stewards are there to help you rather than looking to protect you from thugs. So instead of being scared to take your kids to games you can now take them knowing they're safe and it's relatively cheap.. Maybe things have gone further than many would like but I know which I prefer. 10 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 28 October 2021 Share Posted 28 October 2021 14 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said: Only because the overwhelming majority have let it become that way. Why shouldn't football reflect society? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 28 October 2021 Share Posted 28 October 2021 32 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said: Only because the overwhelming majority have let it become that way. Isn't this the right thing in a democratic society? Preferable to the vocal minority, surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobyfox Posted 28 October 2021 Share Posted 28 October 2021 58 minutes ago, Voll Blau said: No, it has the absolute opposite effect most of the time. People take the end of the music as their cue to sit down and be quiet. It's effectively crowd control. Organic goal celebrations, on the other hand, usually lead into spontaneous singing and so on. I read that wrong the first time around and had visions of a bloke accompanying the goal celebrations on a Hammond Organ or a Wurlitzer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpacedX Posted 28 October 2021 Share Posted 28 October 2021 54 minutes ago, don_danbury said: i like this song Then please out of consideration for others, avoid the music thread. Ta! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stadt Posted 28 October 2021 Share Posted 28 October 2021 28 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said: Isn't this the right thing in a democratic society? Preferable to the vocal minority, surely? When was anything up for vote? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieG Posted 28 October 2021 Author Share Posted 28 October 2021 12 minutes ago, Stadt said: When was anything up for vote? People vote with their feet football crowds and overall interest in the game have increased dramatically since this 'cleaning up' in spite of significant increase in the price of attending so they must feel they are doing something right. Don't mistake my preferences I'd love to see a standing section. Sadly if football crowds behaved in the way the did when I first attended when there was a majority standing and plenty of singing rather than the violent scary experience it descended too where we reached a nadir when not only individuals where subject to this but large groups of people ended up dying whilst attending a football match. Something clearly had to change. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFS Posted 28 October 2021 Share Posted 28 October 2021 Have to say it makes me laugh at baseball where you’ve got this kid friendly, laid back atmosphere; only for the players to walk up to the plate to the latest gangster rap of their choice. I for one would welcome music before set plays selected by the players. Imagine hearing Justin Bieber blaring out as James Maddison saunters over while we’re 1-0 down to take a corner that doesn’t beat the first man… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenTheFox Posted 28 October 2021 Share Posted 28 October 2021 4 minutes ago, pmcla26 said: After seeing the events at England games in the summer, I'm surprised how many complain about the family feel at the King Power. Wouldn't you rather a guaranteed safe, pleasant day out (providing we win of course ) than potentially having it spoilt by loads of idiots acting like England fans in the summer? Why does it have to be one or the other instead of perhaps somewhere in between? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voll Blau Posted 28 October 2021 Share Posted 28 October 2021 4 minutes ago, pmcla26 said: After seeing the events at England games in the summer, I'm surprised how many complain about the family feel at the King Power. Wouldn't you rather a guaranteed safe, pleasant day out (providing we win of course ) than potentially having it spoilt by loads of idiots acting like England fans in the summer? Hats off to you, that's an excellent Straw Man you've built there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voll Blau Posted 28 October 2021 Share Posted 28 October 2021 Just now, BenTheFox said: Why does it have to be one or the other instead of perhaps somewhere in between? What's worse though, a family-friendly stadium or being governed by the Taliban? Makes you think. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voll Blau Posted 28 October 2021 Share Posted 28 October 2021 Just now, pmcla26 said: how? Because in what world would the club doing more to cater for different demographics of supporters lead to that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenTheFox Posted 28 October 2021 Share Posted 28 October 2021 2 minutes ago, pmcla26 said: Because that's the overall way that football is going. I just think it's a weird angle to moan at the club, for supplying free clap banners and playing goal music. I can't believe how many are offended by it and don't understand that going to watch a Premier League game is the same as going to the theatre or cinema - it's inclusive entertainment for all. Shocking take 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley Posted 28 October 2021 Share Posted 28 October 2021 14 minutes ago, pmcla26 said: After seeing the events at England games in the summer, I'm surprised how many complain about the family feel at the King Power. Wouldn't you rather a guaranteed safe, pleasant day out (providing we win of course ) than potentially having it spoilt by loads of idiots acting like England fans in the summer? You're bang off the mark there. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpacedX Posted 28 October 2021 Share Posted 28 October 2021 (edited) 29 minutes ago, pmcla26 said: Is it not part of their identity though? I mean, no other team has it, and if the bloke who does it weren't there for any reason, I'm pretty sure they'd replace the noise he makes (or like I say, other fans of Pompey have been known to take their own and join in). No, not at all. To reiterate, you referred to "bells at Pompey". It's one bloke and when he's gone, I very much doubt anyone will continue to do it anymore than people would suddenly don clown shoes and a battered stovepipe hat with a wig sewn into the lining. 29 minutes ago, pmcla26 said: I don't know, I get the impression from your posts that you're much older than I am, and it's a case of "no I like my football the way it was, don't touch it!", which is fine and understandable, but I don't think that the club are gonna revert back to no clappers and no goal music any time soon, so why not just embrace it? It's certainly not as cringeworthy as you make out, just seems a bit of a pointless thing to have a go at the club about. Nothing to do with age or conservatism. I find the attempts to transform us into a "family club" rather forced and contrived though. I'd also add that it's far more cringeworthy than I "make out". We are fast becoming a laughing stock. Ill-judged, tacky and completely soulless music. Is it too much to ask for something with actual meaning or an identity? I don't particularly like Kasabian, but many visiting supporters rightly comment on how envious they are of 'Club Foot' as a pre-match rousing anthem synonymous with Leicester. 29 minutes ago, pmcla26 said: It's unique because we've made it our own by sticking with it, whereas other clubs have only used them temporarily. If you had your eyes shut and heard the clap banners on tele, most would assume Leicester were playing at the KP. Just out of curiosity, why does the noise the clap banners make irritate you? Flogging a dead horse doesn't make you "unique" - it does make you look tragic though. If you had your eyes shut and you heard the noise the clap banners make, most would think, Christ, are their home fans really still having to resort to those shitty things that most clubs had the good sense to dispense with years before? Why does it irritate me? Because the actual sound of applause but that it substitutes for, sounds far better. Not to say that this has been eliminated from the ground, a good pass, or substitution is still applauded. Incidentally, it's by no means just me. They rival the vuvuzela as the medium of choice for someone employed to try and ruin the enjoyment of watching football. Actually, clappers are ten times times worse than vuvuzelas, which at least had some loose cultural connection at the largely forgettable SA World Cup in 2010. Cardboard clappers are a feeble attempt to manufacture atmosphere but instead sound like thirty odd thousand people clattering... well, cardboard. An increasingly cardboard atmosphere for an increasingly cardboard age. That reminds me, remember the cut outs in the crowd? Edited 28 October 2021 by Line-X 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosbehFox Posted 28 October 2021 Share Posted 28 October 2021 19 minutes ago, pmcla26 said: After seeing the events at England games in the summer, I'm surprised how many complain about the family feel at the King Power. Wouldn't you rather a guaranteed safe, pleasant day out (providing we win of course ) than potentially having it spoilt by loads of idiots acting like England fans in the summer? There's a perfect happy medium which has occasionally happened at LCFC, occasionally happens across the country and on the continent (Bundesliga in particular - no league has a higher female attendance yet there are areas of the ground which are purposely there for the boisterous section). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosbehFox Posted 28 October 2021 Share Posted 28 October 2021 4 minutes ago, pmcla26 said: Is it? Or is it a reality that you don't like? It's the way that football's going I'm afraid. We all love rowdy atmospheres but there's usually trouble that comes with it and clubs have to try their best to contain that. It's the way a portion of top flight football is going. I think it's a bit naive that football is going to completely sleepwalk into this overly sanitised experience. Some of the world's biggest clubs have militant, match going fanbases - see what Man United fans did in successfully getting a game called off. There's been a 'bite back' across the continent on the return of fans. For me personally a light at the end of the tunnel. The fact that UEFA are considering making pyrotechnics a non punishable offence suggests some suit has realised the boisterous part of it is very much part of the experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosbehFox Posted 28 October 2021 Share Posted 28 October 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, pmcla26 said: Oh yeah, agreed for sure. I think we aren't really far off the medium though. Just seems some like something to moan about for the sake of moaning. It's to be expected that with success and more exposure that the club kind of have to move that way though, that's why I just think it's a weird angle to go at from. I disagree that we aren't far from the medium. I simply don't see the same independence for fans in their support allowed at LCFC like I see at other clubs and/or Bundesliga clubs. In fact there's been a clamp down on it - denying a fan group the ability to hold a food bank for example. Edited 28 October 2021 by Cardiff_Fox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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