Górnik Leicester Posted 19 January 2022 Share Posted 19 January 2022 11 minutes ago, Footballwipe said: Are you sure they voted for the name? Are you absolutely sure they didn't vote Conservative? The Conservative had nothing to do with it? Surely it's not the point that "it'd have gone that way anyway." You can't just go "ah there we go it was going Red anyway no election needed." What a dangerous precedent to set for all manner of things in the future. May as well not run an election and go with the opinion polls in future. They tell us which way things are going. Anyway, it's not a hill I want to die on, just interested. But I think it's spectacularly naïve to think the voters voted for the name and not the party. You could argue that the Conservatives could have selected their candidate better - perhaps opting for one which was willing to overlook their vast corruption and many indiscretions. Ultimately, our voting system asks people to vote for the person that is put forward by their party. That people choose to vote along party lines, regardless of their how their stance on issues aligns with the party's (for example, Kate Hoey), is possibly a different issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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urban.spaceman Posted 19 January 2022 Share Posted 19 January 2022 David Davis just told him to go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sly Posted 19 January 2022 Share Posted 19 January 2022 This is chaos today really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sly Posted 19 January 2022 Share Posted 19 January 2022 Plan B to expire on the 26th January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnegan Posted 19 January 2022 Share Posted 19 January 2022 2 hours ago, Voll Blau said: Go on then, give us a better way to run society... El Presidente Finnegano. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Facecloth Posted 19 January 2022 Share Posted 19 January 2022 Davis quotes an MP who called for Churchill to resign. Johnson says he has no idea of the quote Davis is talking about. Johnson wrote a biography on Churchill! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenTheFox Posted 19 January 2022 Share Posted 19 January 2022 1 hour ago, Daggers said: They voted for the name on the ballot paper. If they don’t like him defecting they can vote for a different person next time. It’s a Labour seat anyway and would’ve turned red again regardless. Imo, it makes Wakefield a man of honour, something woefully lacking in this government. I think I speak for almost everyone when I say that when I go to the polling station I am voting for which political party I want to be in government first, and the local MP that is representing me second. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buce Posted 19 January 2022 Author Share Posted 19 January 2022 5 minutes ago, Facecloth said: Davis quotes an MP who called for Churchill to resign. Johnson says he has no idea of the quote Davis is talking about. Johnson wrote a biography on Churchill! It was a quote addressed to Neville Chamberlin, not Churchill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Buce Posted 19 January 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted 19 January 2022 Best quote of the day: Diana Johnson, Labour MP for Kingston upon Hull North, asked: "When a prime minister is spending his time trying to convince the British public that he is stupid rather than dishonest isn't it time that he goes?" 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 19 January 2022 Share Posted 19 January 2022 1 minute ago, Buce said: It was a quote addressed to Neville Chamberlin, not Churchill. You'd have thought Johnson would have come across Chamberlin in his research though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapero82 Posted 19 January 2022 Share Posted 19 January 2022 His attitude is just wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buce Posted 19 January 2022 Author Share Posted 19 January 2022 Just now, urban.spaceman said: You'd have thought Johnson would have come across Chamberlin in his research though? Of course. I posted merely in the interests of accuracy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnegan Posted 19 January 2022 Share Posted 19 January 2022 3 minutes ago, Buce said: It was a quote addressed to Neville Chamberlin, not Churchill. And Amery himself was quoting Cromwell. Give it a few years and someone will "quote Davis" to chuck it at someone else no doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnegan Posted 19 January 2022 Share Posted 19 January 2022 1 minute ago, Finnegan said: And Amery himself was quoting Cromwell. Give it a few years and someone will "quote Davis" to chuck it at someone else no doubt. For what it's worth, the quote in it's entirety could rightly apply to Messrs Johnson, Gove, Mogg and co' collectively: "It is high time for me to put an end to your sitting in this place, which you have dishonored by your contempt of all virtue, and defiled by your practice of every vice. Ye are a factious crew, and enemies to all good government. Ye are a pack of mercenary wretches, and would like Esau sell your country for a mess of pottage, and like Judas betray your God for a few pieces of money. Is there a single virtue now remaining amongst you? Is there one vice you do not possess? Ye have no more religion than my horse. Gold is your God. Which of you have not bartered your conscience for bribes? Is there a man amongst you that has the least care for the good of the Commonwealth? Ye sordid prostitutes have you not defiled this sacred place, and turned the Lord's temple into a den of thieves, by your immoral principles and wicked practices? Ye are grown intolerably odious to the whole nation. You were deputed here by the people to get grievances redressed, are yourselves become the greatest grievance. Your country therefore calls upon me to cleanse this Augean stable, by putting a final period to your iniquitous proceedings in this House; and which by God's help, and the strength he has given me, I am now come to do. I command ye therefore, upon the peril of your lives, to depart immediately out of this place. Go, get you out! Make haste! Ye venal slaves be gone! So! Take away that shining bauble there, and lock up the doors. In the name of God, go!" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mickyblueeyes Posted 19 January 2022 Share Posted 19 January 2022 38 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said: He's a gonner. Davis still holds a good amount of influence with backbenchers. I'll be surprised if the announcement of the 54 letters, no confidence is not announced by this evening. Then again, it is Boris and this ****er always seems to survive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnegan Posted 19 January 2022 Share Posted 19 January 2022 3 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said: The English MTG impersonator in full swing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenTheFox Posted 19 January 2022 Share Posted 19 January 2022 On a side note, all the jeering, snide comments and other playground antics you hear during PMQs is incredibly off-putting. Why must they behave like such children? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facecloth Posted 19 January 2022 Share Posted 19 January 2022 11 minutes ago, Buce said: It was a quote addressed to Neville Chamberlin, not Churchill. My mistake. It would have been at the time of Churchill though, that was my point. He should have known of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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