urban.spaceman Posted 19 January 2022 Share Posted 19 January 2022 2 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said: He's a gonner. Davis still holds a good amount of influence with backbenchers. I'll be surprised if the announcement of the 54 letters, no confidence is not announced by this evening. Then again, it is Boris and this ****er always seems to survive. He has no conscience and no shame, because he's never faced any consequences from his actions ever. Yes he's been sacked a few times, but when you're born into wealth being sacked is just a minor inconvenience. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daggers Posted 19 January 2022 Share Posted 19 January 2022 25 minutes ago, BenTheFox said: I think I speak for almost everyone when I say that when I go to the polling station I am voting for which political party I want to be in government first, and the local MP that is representing me second. https://www.parliament.uk/about/how/elections-and-voting/general/ You’re welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnegan Posted 19 January 2022 Share Posted 19 January 2022 Just now, Daggers said: https://www.parliament.uk/about/how/elections-and-voting/general/ You’re welcome. come one Dave, you're well aware he knows that. You also know exactly what he means. I do agree that it shows a lot of character to defect, though. An MP's been elected to look after the interests of his constituents and they've trusted him to make decisions and vote on their behalf. He's done that. If they don't like the decisions he's made, they can vote for someone else next time around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenTheFox Posted 19 January 2022 Share Posted 19 January 2022 1 minute ago, Daggers said: https://www.parliament.uk/about/how/elections-and-voting/general/ You’re welcome. Technically you are correct, however, I'm sure you know as well as I do that it isn't the motivation of most voters. I'm sure there are plenty of people out there that don't even know the name of their local MP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpacedX Posted 19 January 2022 Share Posted 19 January 2022 5 minutes ago, BenTheFox said: Technically you are correct, however, I'm sure you know as well as I do that it isn't the motivation of most voters. I'm sure there are plenty of people out there that don't even know the name of their local MP. I do - it's Tarquin Fin-tim-lin-bin-whin-bim-lim-bus-stop-F'tang-F'tang-Olé-Biscuitbarrel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnegan Posted 19 January 2022 Share Posted 19 January 2022 I've met mine a couple of times. She's a fvcking div. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sampson Posted 19 January 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 19 January 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, RoboFox said: There's absolutely no doubt whatsoever. I'd extend that to one of the worst governments we've ever had. And Brexit was far from sorted... the pandemic has meant it's been consigned to the middle pages news-wise, but it's still an absolute bin fire and a failure of the most magnificent proportions. This is what you get when politicians are decided upon by personal popularity over competency. You can argue that it's unfair to judge a political leader on their actions over the last two years, but he couldn't even take the pandemic seriously and give the appearance of efficiency until it was too late. It might have been alleviated if his government had included serious men and women with experience of reading the country, but he chose to get rid of all of them by making absolute loyalty to a hard Brexit the price for staying in post, and surrounded himself with a cabinet of third-rate yes-men and morons. As much as I'd never thought UK would have a populist government like this one with populists like Johnson, Patel and Rees-Mogg in high ranking government positions, I would argue that Cameron was ultimately the facilitator who opened the door to this populism by calling a referendum which he openly admitted beforehand to George Osbourne and Nick Clegg that he knew would open Pandora's Box, just so he could win what was at the time a pretty minor argument within his own party, I think Cameron will be treated by history as the Gaius Marius to Johnson's Julius Caesar. Edited 19 January 2022 by Sampson 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Horse's Mouth Posted 19 January 2022 Share Posted 19 January 2022 Is that defector not even going to call a by election? This is why it's hard to back any politician 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Horse's Mouth Posted 19 January 2022 Share Posted 19 January 2022 1 hour ago, BenTheFox said: On a side note, all the jeering, snide comments and other playground antics you hear during PMQs is incredibly off-putting. Why must they behave like such children? Theyve never had proper jobs so they don't know what it's like to grow up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bovril Posted 19 January 2022 Share Posted 19 January 2022 50 minutes ago, Finnegan said: I've met mine a couple of times. She's a fvcking div. Mine too, at a beer festival a few years ago. Seemed a bit dense. Now possible future PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Horse's Mouth Posted 19 January 2022 Share Posted 19 January 2022 2 hours ago, Footballwipe said: Is it just me that gets slightly uncomfortable about party defections with no need for a by-election? This Bury South guy has just crossed from Conservative to Labour, but that's now who the constituents voted for? They voted for a Conservative. No matter how grotesque this government is at the minute, Bury South should have the representation they voted for, and if the MP no longer wants to be part of that party it's entirely his choice, but the mandate given by the voters is no longer being followed and as such they should get a by-election to pick. All well and good celebrating him going CON-LAB but if he went from CON-Britain First I doubt people would be quite so celebratory. I think it's really vile and just shows how arrogant and self righteous these ***** really are, he probably genuinely thinks people voted for him, rather than the leader/party. How can you stand for a manifesto then completely change your political compass half way through and not let your people vote on it, it's shows how little principles these people stand for, it also emphasises how broken this system is. Say what you want about UKIP, but during their boom both Carswell and Reckless both called by elections and stood on their UKIP manifestos. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buce Posted 19 January 2022 Author Share Posted 19 January 2022 "Can I have confirmation from the prime minister, is he getting rid of the Covid rules simply because he doesn’t understand them?" Stephen Flynn SNP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facecloth Posted 19 January 2022 Share Posted 19 January 2022 7 minutes ago, Buce said: "Can I have confirmation from the prime minister, is he getting rid of the Covid rules simply because he doesn’t understand them?" Stephen Flynn SNP The video is even better, with the little wave at the end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facecloth Posted 19 January 2022 Share Posted 19 January 2022 He's like a petulant child. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl the Llama Posted 19 January 2022 Share Posted 19 January 2022 54 minutes ago, The Horse's Mouth said: I think it's really vile and just shows how arrogant and self righteous these ***** really are, he probably genuinely thinks people voted for him, rather than the leader/party. How can you stand for a manifesto then completely change your political compass half way through and not let your people vote on it, it's shows how little principles these people stand for, it also emphasises how broken this system is. Say what you want about UKIP, but during their boom both Carswell and Reckless both called by elections and stood on their UKIP manifestos. Indeed, and there should be a general election if/when they drag Johnson around back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unabomber Posted 19 January 2022 Share Posted 19 January 2022 13 minutes ago, Facecloth said: He's like a petulant child. That is infuriating. What a ****ing stupid **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKLFox Posted 19 January 2022 Share Posted 19 January 2022 2 hours ago, BenTheFox said: On a side note, all the jeering, snide comments and other playground antics you hear during PMQs is incredibly off-putting. Why must they behave like such children? I'm with you Ben, the scenes when ya man crossed over this morning was a kin to standing in a Q waiting to be picked for a team at school & the only emotion it got from me was, jeez these are all grown adults in charge of my country, the whole set up is embarrassing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daggers Posted 19 January 2022 Share Posted 19 January 2022 3 hours ago, Finnegan said: come one Dave, you're well aware he knows that. You also know exactly what he means. I do agree that it shows a lot of character to defect, though. An MP's been elected to look after the interests of his constituents and they've trusted him to make decisions and vote on their behalf. He's done that. If they don't like the decisions he's made, they can vote for someone else next time around. 3 hours ago, BenTheFox said: Technically you are correct, however, I'm sure you know as well as I do that it isn't the motivation of most voters. I'm sure there are plenty of people out there that don't even know the name of their local MP. Yep, I knows it. Their intention is to vote for a party, it’s just that they aren’t. Pedantic? Absolutely - but then I had a skinful last night and decided it’d be a brilliant idea to stay up all night playing Destiny. Not one of my best ideas tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiberalFox Posted 19 January 2022 Share Posted 19 January 2022 When I go to a polling station I'm attempting to save the party £500 on a lost deposit. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Voll Blau Posted 20 January 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 20 January 2022 This is how far Johnson's dragged our national dignity into the gutter. Proper Banana Republic stuff. Quote A senior Conservative MP has accused Number 10 of "blackmail", saying staff had threatened him and other colleagues over their opposition to Boris Johnson. William Wragg urged MPs to contact the Metropolitan Police if they had been threatened or intimidated. The chair of the Public Administration and Constitutional Affairs Committee said Number 10 staff, special advisers and government ministers had said there would be embarrassing stories released to the press if MPs did not support the prime minister. He also said Number 10 had threatened to withdraw funding to his and other backbenchers' constituencies if they did not withdraw their opposition to Mr Johnson. https://www.itv.com/news/2022-01-20/tory-mp-accuses-no10-of-threatening-to-withdraw-funding-over-opposition-to-pm 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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urban.spaceman Posted 20 January 2022 Share Posted 20 January 2022 38 minutes ago, Voll Blau said: This is how far Johnson's dragged our national dignity into the gutter. Proper Banana Republic stuff. https://www.itv.com/news/2022-01-20/tory-mp-accuses-no10-of-threatening-to-withdraw-funding-over-opposition-to-pm Actually this is a good thing. De Pfeffel might be about to take down the entire ****ing party. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Górnik Leicester Posted 20 January 2022 Share Posted 20 January 2022 The sooner the Tory Party is wound up, the better for everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voll Blau Posted 20 January 2022 Share Posted 20 January 2022 As an aside, William Wragg has a really soothing voice. The kind that makes you realise your plane isn't going to crash when the pilot introduces himself over the intercom. Reckon if I'd heard him commentating on last night's shitshow I'd have gone to bed feeling really calm. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiberalFox Posted 20 January 2022 Share Posted 20 January 2022 21 hours ago, The Horse's Mouth said: I think it's really vile and just shows how arrogant and self righteous these ***** really are, he probably genuinely thinks people voted for him, rather than the leader/party. How can you stand for a manifesto then completely change your political compass half way through and not let your people vote on it, it's shows how little principles these people stand for, it also emphasises how broken this system is. Say what you want about UKIP, but during their boom both Carswell and Reckless both called by elections and stood on their UKIP manifestos. I tend to agree. A lot of people in Labour are also unhappy. Young Labour for example. I don't know how I'd feel if I was the Labour PPC for Bury South. There's little evidence to suggest he's doing this for any other reason than personal gain. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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