Not The Politics Thread.

[Górnik Leicester]

Global fecking Britain. 

[weller54]

1 hour ago, Górnik Leicester said:

Global fecking Britain. 

Absolutely embarrassing isn't it!?...

What have we become?🤬

[Foxdiamond]

3 minutes ago, weller54 said:

Absolutely embarrassing isn't it!?...

What have we become?🤬

Never been convinced she is bright enough for these top jobs . There have been plenty of Tories in the past I've not agreed with but never doubted their intelligence but this lot ? 

[Mickyblueeyes]

2 hours ago, RoboFox said:

A bit of perspective on the "losses". It's a financial mismanagement of public money on the most unprecedented scale.

 

 

And you know it's bad when the Mail are upset at the Tories.

 

 

What scares me is that some people tell me Rishi Sunak would make a “good PM”. As if he wasn’t involved in all of this. 
 

 

[danny.]

20 minutes ago, Foxdiamond said:

Never been convinced she is bright enough for these top jobs . There have been plenty of Tories in the past I've not agreed with but never doubted their intelligence but this lot ? 

Raab, Hancock, Dorries and Truss must have the combined IQ of a potato, but apparently  it’s only a sick Abbot that is stupid.

[FuriousFox46]

If anyone else is a bit of an election nerd, I made my own prediction model a couple of years ago, and based on current polling, the Tories are (unsurprisingly) in for a mauling:

 

🌹LAB: 322 (+120)
🔵CON: 206 (-159)
🎗️SNP: 56 (+8)
🔶LIB: 35 (+24)
🏵️PLC: 5 (+1)
♻️GRN: 3 (+2)
🔲OTH: 5 (+4)
 

 

[FuriousFox46]

Just now, FuriousFox46 said:

If anyone else is a bit of an election nerd, I made my own prediction model a couple of years ago, and based on current polling, the Tories are (unsurprisingly) in for a mauling:

 

🌹LAB: 322 (+120)
🔵CON: 206 (-159)
🎗️SNP: 56 (+8)
🔶LIB: 35 (+24)
🏵️PLC: 5 (+1)
♻️GRN: 3 (+2)
🔲OTH: 5 (+4)
 

 

It was very accurate in the 2019 election by the way!

[LVFox]

8 minutes ago, FuriousFox46 said:

If anyone else is a bit of an election nerd, I made my own prediction model a couple of years ago, and based on current polling, the Tories are (unsurprisingly) in for a mauling:

 

🌹LAB: 322 (+120)
🔵CON: 206 (-159)
🎗️SNP: 56 (+8)
🔶LIB: 35 (+24)
🏵️PLC: 5 (+1)
♻️GRN: 3 (+2)
🔲OTH: 5 (+4)
 

 

I thought I was an election nerd until you made your own prediction model!

 

I’ll downgrade myself to “enthusiast” now.

 

Makes for grim reading if you’re of the conservative persuasion. I imagine many MPs will weigh this kind of thing up when wondering whether to send in a letter of no confidence.

[Foxdiamond]

9 minutes ago, FuriousFox46 said:

If anyone else is a bit of an election nerd, I made my own prediction model a couple of years ago, and based on current polling, the Tories are (unsurprisingly) in for a mauling:

 

🌹LAB: 322 (+120)
🔵CON: 206 (-159)
🎗️SNP: 56 (+8)
🔶LIB: 35 (+24)
🏵️PLC: 5 (+1)
♻️GRN: 3 (+2)
🔲OTH: 5 (+4)
 

 

Marvellous 

[weller54]

11 minutes ago, FuriousFox46 said:

If anyone else is a bit of an election nerd, I made my own prediction model a couple of years ago, and based on current polling, the Tories are (unsurprisingly) in for a mauling:

 

🌹LAB: 322 (+120)
🔵CON: 206 (-159)
🎗️SNP: 56 (+8)
🔶LIB: 35 (+24)
🏵️PLC: 5 (+1)
♻️GRN: 3 (+2)
🔲OTH: 5 (+4)
 

 

I'd love it!

Love it!..

If the Tories were ripped apart like this at the next GE.

[FuriousFox46]

5 minutes ago, LVocey said:

I thought I was an election nerd until you made your own prediction model!

 

I’ll downgrade myself to “enthusiast” now.

 

Makes for grim reading if you’re of the conservative persuasion. I imagine many MPs will weigh this kind of thing up when wondering whether to send in a letter of no confidence.

Haha! Few things I love more than an election 

[Wymsey]

Should Leicester be Included in the 'Levelling Up' plans?

[urban.spaceman]

@DANGEROUS TIGER

 

1. As Danny pointed out, there was a global recession in 2007, which rather contradicts your point about Labour and the country’s finances in 2010. 
 

2. The Tories reaction to the 2010 financial crisis was austerity, and in the 10 years before COVID they cut every service, scheme and asset to the barest bones, taxing the poorest in ever more creative and sinister ways. 
 

There were 40,000 people using food banks in the UK in 2010. 
 

By 2019 that rose to 1.6 million.

 

By 2021, it was 2.5 million. 
 

3. It’s really not a good idea to blame COVID for the current situation. As I pointed out here a fortnight ago, their response was reprehensibly bad:
 

On 15/01/2022 at 13:31, urban.spaceman said:

Sorry, nope. Not having this. It gives him too much of the benefit of the doubt and lets him off the hook for practically everything he got wrong. It's a pattern of behaviour replicated in the Western world that hasn't even begun to be addressed by the media. This isn't even about hindsight.

 

Does anyone remember about 10 years ago someone wrote to Leicester City Council to ask about their policy in case of a zombie attack? They wrote back saying they didn't have one, so people staged a zombie attack in the city centre. All a bit of fun of course, but it turned out some councils actually did have a policy just in case.

 

The point is, governments are supposed to be prepared for anything, and they mostly are. My dad used to be a mid-level manager for a major national UK infrastructure company. Ever since COVID started he's been telling me about the Risk Register he had to update every year - quite literally a list of risks to the business that would prevent it from being able to operate and would leave the public vulnerable without that infrastructure.

 

Trump blamed Obama for him not being prepared 3 years into his term but in reality, Obama and Biden had quite literally left behind a detailed playbook on how to respond to such an emergency - “Playbook for Early Response to High-Consequence Emerging Infectious Disease Threats and Biological Incidents.” They even prepared the Trump administration for it during the transition phase in 2016/17. But he ignored it, blamed everything on everyone else, and now 850,000 Americans are dead.

 

Blair brought in the Civil Contingencies Act in 2004. Obviously it was updated for every year, as there's one specifically for terror attacks:

 

 

Here's the 'Other risks' chart:

 

 

It's literally the first ****ing thing.

 

The reason Asian and Eastern countries did so much better is because they have experience with health emergencies, had policies in place and took it very, very seriously. 

 

But De Pfeffel sat on his arse. China went into lockdowns, then we had about a month of that couple on the cruise ship. Then Italy went into lockdown. 

 

"Oh I went to a hospital where they've got COVID patients and I shook everyone's hand etc".

 

He didn't take it seriously. He wasn't prepared. He partied the whole time. 

 

This isn't a go at you @Koke btw - just general frustration at this government.

 

The gaslighting has already started too - Rees-Mogg and other senior cvnts trying to excuse the parties and pay more attention to the positives of 'how well he handled the pandemic'.

 

150,000 people are ****ing dead.

Note that above I didn’t even mention the billions wasted on dodgy PPE, which they have written off at an extraordinary £8.5 BILLION. 

 

I didn’t even mention the £4.5 BILLION of fraud they’ve written off. 
 

As Nandy pointed out in her evisceration of Gove, that alone is more than they’re proposing to spend “levelling up”. it would even have covered the £1000 Universal Credit uplift, which would have helped vulnerable people. 
 

4. Ok, so let’s factor in COVID, even if you want to defend their response. 
 

They promised to “level up” as part of their manifesto in 2019. 
 

They’ve had 2 years since then. And THIS is all they can come up with?

 

It’s beyond pathetic.

[LVFox]

33 minutes ago, FuriousFox46 said:

If anyone else is a bit of an election nerd, I made my own prediction model a couple of years ago, and based on current polling, the Tories are (unsurprisingly) in for a mauling:

 

🌹LAB: 322 (+120)
🔵CON: 206 (-159)
🎗️SNP: 56 (+8)
🔶LIB: 35 (+24)
🏵️PLC: 5 (+1)
♻️GRN: 3 (+2)
🔲OTH: 5 (+4)
 

 

Be interesting if this were to happen - if labour would go it alone in a hung parliament or look to team up with Lib Dems or Plaid, maybe even the greens.

 

[st albans fox]

6 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said:

@DANGEROUS TIGER

 

1. As Danny pointed out, there was a global recession in 2007, which rather contradicts your point about Labour and the country’s finances in 2010. 
 

2. The Tories reaction to the 2010 financial crisis was austerity, and in the 10 years before COVID they cut every service, scheme and asset to the barest bones, taxing the poorest in ever more creative and sinister ways. 
 

There were 40,000 people using food banks in the UK in 2010. 
 

By 2019 that rose to 1.6 million.

 

By 2021, it was 2.5 million. 
 

3. It’s really not a good idea to blame COVID for the current situation. As I pointed out here a fortnight ago, their response was reprehensibly bad:
 

Note that above I didn’t even mention the billions wasted on dodgy PPE, which they have written off at an extraordinary £8.5 BILLION. 

 

I didn’t even mention the £4.5 BILLION of fraud they’ve written off. 
 

As Nandy pointed out in her evisceration of Gove, that alone is more than they’re proposing to spend “levelling up”. it would even have covered the £1000 Universal Credit uplift, which would have helped vulnerable people. 
 

4. Ok, so let’s factor in COVID, even if you want to defend their response. 
 

They promised to “level up” as part of their manifesto in 2019. 
 

They’ve had 2 years since then. And THIS is all they can come up with?

 

It’s beyond pathetic.

They’ve been pretty distracted for a couple of years ……but covid has given them a free pass on any neg consequences of brexit and their policies in general ….

 

 

[st albans fox]

2 minutes ago, LVocey said:

Be interesting if this were to happen - if labour would go it alone in a hung parliament or look to team up with Lib Dems or Plaid, maybe even the greens.

 

Is it hung ? 

Edited 2 February 2022 by st albans fox

[FuriousFox46]

1 minute ago, LVocey said:

Be interesting if this were to happen - if labour would go it alone in a hung parliament or look to team up with Lib Dems or Plaid, maybe even the greens.

 

They would have a working majority with 322 because of the Speaker and Sinn Féin’s abstentions, I’d imagine they’d go it alone unless they absolutely had to

[HighPeakFox]

Apologies for what might well be a remarkably naive question, but what the actual f**k does 'levelling up' mean? My guess is it's nonsense that sounds good.

Edited 2 February 2022 by HighPeakFox

[danny.]

7 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Is it hung ? 

Nope, not in that prediction. 

[Wymsey]

2 minutes ago, HighPeakFox said:

Apologies for what might well be a remarkably naive question, but what the actual f**k does 'levelling up' mean? My guess is it's nonsense that sounds good.

More than likely rejuvenating 'neglected' areas like Rotherham, Sheffield, Wolverhampton, in terms of sprucing up building, salaries, improving job skills etc.

[danny.]

3 minutes ago, HighPeakFox said:

Apologies for what might well be a remarkable naive question, but what the actual f**k does 'levelling up' mean? My guess is it's nonsense that sounds good.

It’s a soundbite. Like strong and stable, oven ready, getting on with the job etc. the Tories are excellent at marketing and PR. 

[HighPeakFox]

Just now, danny. said:

It’s a soundbite. Like strong and stable, oven ready, getting on with the job etc. the Tories are excellent at marketing and PR. 

So I was right - just BS that sounds good and never happens.

[sdb]

It is honestly dystopia levels of madness now. These are the worst of the worst. Nasty, stupid liars who destroy absolutely everything. 

[Facecloth]

 

 

[CosbehFox]

37 minutes ago, Wymsey said:

More than likely rejuvenating 'neglected' areas like Rotherham, Sheffield, Wolverhampton, in terms of sprucing up building, salaries, improving job skills etc.

They don’t have Tory MPs, so that won’t happen