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I see the press are taking the line that some people criticised some politicians online so now we need to have a blanket ban/ machine gun turrets.

 

Apparently the guy had been known to counter terrorism for some time as well.

 

Diane Abbot receives the most abuse online of all MPs yet there's never been the media coverage to stop the hate.

 

It disgusts me that rags like the Mail/ Sun etc are asking for people to be nicer despite the bile and hatred they spew forth with every issue.

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5 minutes ago, FoxyPV said:

I see the press are taking the line that some people criticised some politicians online so now we need to have a blanket ban/ machine gun turrets.

 

Apparently the guy had been known to counter terrorism for some time as well.

 

Diane Abbot receives the most abuse online of all MPs yet there's never been the media coverage to stop the hate.

 

It disgusts me that rags like the Mail/ Sun etc are asking for people to be nicer despite the bile and hatred they spew forth with every issue.

Maybe we should all take a look at ourselves and the way we communicate online.

Its so easy to be a bit braver, a bit more extreme than we normally would during a face to face conversation. 
By enlarge though, I don’t think nutters like this are influenced by what the likes of you and I post online. They almost groom themselves by searching for things to justify their paranoia and it’s easy enough to find.

The internet has ****ed the world.

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1 hour ago, Strokes said:

Maybe we should all take a look at ourselves and the way we communicate online.

Its so easy to be a bit braver, a bit more extreme than we normally would during a face to face conversation. 
By enlarge though, I don’t think nutters like this are influenced by what the likes of you and I post online. They almost groom themselves by searching for things to justify their paranoia and it’s easy enough to find.

The internet has ****ed the world.

Already had two posts here within hours of the murder suggesting the political allegiance of the perpetrator. Becoming clearer to me that you don't even need to search for an echo chamber anymore as people are more than happy to make their own conclusions to fit their beliefs ("critical thinking"). 

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2 minutes ago, Zear0 said:

Already had two posts here within hours of the murder suggesting the political allegiance of the perpetrator. Becoming clearer to me that you don't even need to search for an echo chamber anymore as people are more than happy to make their own conclusions to fit their beliefs ("critical thinking"). 

I don’t think people that commit these sorts of crimes can be summed up by political allegiances. Left, right, up, down, it doesn’t really matter, they share no moral compass with 99% of the population. 
Things like this shouldn’t further divide us, it’s nonsensical. Neither side share a platform with murderous scumbags. No side agrees with or celebrates such carnage. Anybody using this for point scoring is pathetic.

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On 15/10/2021 at 19:58, urban.spaceman said:

I really, really wish the nationality, race and religion of these people wasn’t disclosed so soon after an incident like this. 

On French news last night, the brief report included that the suspect was of Somalian descent. It says nothing in itself but speaks to people that want to make it relevant.

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8 minutes ago, Strokes said:

I don’t think people that commit these sorts of crimes can be summed up by political allegiances. Left, right, up, down, it doesn’t really matter, they share no moral compass with 99% of the population. 
Things like this shouldn’t further divide us, it’s nonsensical. Neither side share a platform with murderous scumbags. No side agrees with or celebrates such carnage. Anybody using this for point scoring is pathetic.

I'd agree with all of this with a caveat for the bolded: it's certainly true for the UK, but I'm not sure about elsewhere in the world.

 

Party-sanctioned, or at least tacitly approved of, violence sadly does happen.

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2 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

I'd agree with all of this with a caveat for the bolded: it's certainly true for the UK, but I'm not sure about elsewhere in the world.

 

Party-sanctioned, or at least tacitly approved of, violence sadly does happen.

Sure, sometimes I forget some of you live or have lived in other parts of the world.

But you are quite right, I was only talking domestically.

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12 minutes ago, Strokes said:

Sure, sometimes I forget some of you live or have lived in other parts of the world.

But you are quite right, I was only talking domestically.

Believe me, I and arguably anyone sane wishes it were otherwise.

 

We've got more than enough problems from the natural world and what we do to it than by making more among ourselves for no real good reason.

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21 hours ago, Strokes said:

Sure, sometimes I forget some of you live or have lived in other parts of the world.

But you are quite right, I was only talking domestically.

It has and does happen in the UK, and you always forget about Northern Ireland.

 

Violence doesn't just have to be assault etc, it can be institutional in the restriction of access to legal aid etc. 

 

Every headline in the Daily Fail and those other shite rags promotes violence against minorities or those the govt wishes to target. The Home Office has just said it's ok to kill people in the channel. 

 

The govt are trying to circumvent law by overturning decisions made by the supreme court if the govt doesn't agree with them.

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23 minutes ago, UpTheLeagueFox said:

"... It's understood she did stay as part of the couple's 'childcare bubble'. ..."

Bit of a desperate story, especially 10 months on. Then again it's the Mirror...

You missed this bit:

 

If this was the case, Ms Ali must only have been staying for Christmas in order to provide “informal childcare” - not for socialising

The rules at the time said: “You can only use a childcare bubble for childcare. You cannot use a childcare bubble to mix with another household for other reasons.”

 

So, hopefully we will find out the context soon...

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7 minutes ago, SecretPro said:

You missed this bit:

If this was the case, Ms Ali must only have been staying for Christmas in order to provide “informal childcare” - not for socialising

The rules at the time said: “You can only use a childcare bubble for childcare. You cannot use a childcare bubble to mix with another household for other reasons.”

So, hopefully we will find out the context soon...

There's plenty to criticise the Govt about right now so seems strange they've gone back 10 months to something which might be a minor breach and, I'm guessing, most people won't give much of a toss about.

The paper must be desperate if this is the best they can come up with when there's plenty more important stuff going on.

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1 minute ago, UpTheLeagueFox said:

There's plenty to criticise the Govt about right now so seems strange they've gone back 10 months to something which might be a minor breach and, I'm guessing, most people won't give much of a toss about.

The paper must be desperate if this is the best they can come up with when there's plenty more important stuff going on.

We're talking about the actual Prime Minister potentially breaching horrifically draconian measures affecting millions of people that he himself introduced. As a journalist, you don't think there's a public interest in reporting that?

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5 minutes ago, Voll Blau said:

We're talking about the actual Prime Minister potentially breaching horrifically draconian measures affecting millions of people that he himself introduced. As a journalist, you don't think there's a public interest in reporting that?

I genuinely don't think many people will give a stuff about this potential breach, especially when there's loads more going on currently which the Govt needs to be held to account about.

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18 minutes ago, UpTheLeagueFox said:

I genuinely don't think many people will give a stuff about this potential breach, especially when there's loads more going on currently which the Govt needs to be held to account about.

Just because people "don't give a stuff" doesn't mean it's not worth reporting on though? I agree 10 months gives the story a decent fade factor and, sadly, people don't seem to mind having anyone in government relentlessly taking the piss out of them by doing stuff like this during the pandemic anyway - but If our Prime Minister is caught flouting rules he is responsible for creating then that is a story, whenever it's uncovered.

 

Plus, I highly doubt the fact that they've covered this means they've stopped covering what the Tories are up to at the moment. As you say, it's the Mirror...

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On 17/10/2021 at 12:21, Strokes said:

Maybe we should all take a look at ourselves and the way we communicate online.

Its so easy to be a bit braver, a bit more extreme than we normally would during a face to face conversation. 
By enlarge though, I don’t think nutters like this are influenced by what the likes of you and I post online. They almost groom themselves by searching for things to justify their paranoia and it’s easy enough to find.

The internet has ****ed the world.

Malapropism thread for you too, my friend. :P

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2 hours ago, adam1 said:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/oct/25/priti-patel-kept-up-anti-lawyer-rhetoric-after-met-warning-on-terror

 

:whistle:

It's nearly a year old but it still makes me wonder if Ms Patel is/was fit for her (very) high office and why she hasn't been sanctioned, or even why she was appointed in the first place?

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3 minutes ago, Strokes said:

Yeah I noticed that after it was quoted and just hoped nobody else would. :blush:

Must have had my cock in my hand whilst writing it.

 

I can understand you not noticing...

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