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How to fix the rotten state of football?

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davieG

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31 minutes ago, FoxinNotts said:

Play the FA Cup semi finals at the Millennium Stadium, Cardiff. NOT Wembley.

 

Scrap FA Cup replays, all rounds. Financially compensate lower league teams on gate revenues.

 

Scrap the League Cup.

What! Is your next idea to suggest a closed shop Super League?

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Oxfordfox83

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2 hours ago, FoxesWalk said:

 

I personally like the idea that each club could sell a pass to view the content of its own games, and do away with having to pay multiple subscriptions. Better for fans and clubs with more fans will be able to earn vast sums from this. Will severely reduce illegal streaming if priced correctly too. I’m reluctant to pay £100/month or whatever to sky/bt/Amazon, but if a reasonable fee went direct to Leicester? Sign me up. 

That would be the death of everything.
 

You’d end up with Man Utd and Liverpool completely and utterly untouchable financially. It’s what’s happened to some extent in the Spain, and they have the most pointless league in Europe.


Apart from Scotland, obviously.

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David Hankey

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The 'Big 6' see the way forward of fixing the so-called "rotten state of football" is to form this breakaway competition. They have an insatiable appetite for cash.  This latest plan will, undoubtedly, bring them yet more money to feed this voracious appetite but it won't solve this issue. What next, a world league?!!

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Webbo

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Just now, filbertway said:

What's your point with this?

People are saying that we need the fans involved, the German model and the super league would never happen. Barcelona are one of the Super league clubs. Maybe fan involvement wouldn't make much difference?

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1 minute ago, Webbo said:

People are saying that we need the fans involved, the German model and the super league would never happen. Barcelona are one of the Super league clubs. Maybe fan involvement wouldn't make much difference?

Ahh, Barca and Real are member owned but appoint a president. Neither president had to consult the fans/members on this decision as they have the power.

 

The members can now call a meeting to discuss this.

 

In Germany I believe it's different in that the fans have more power and dont vote in one person to make decisions on their behalf.

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1 minute ago, filbertway said:

Ahh, Barca and Real are member owned but appoint a president. Neither president had to consult the fans/members on this decision as they have the power.

 

The members can now call a meeting to discuss this.

 

In Germany I believe it's different in that the fans have more power and dont vote in one person to make decisions on their behalf.

The German model has made a league where only 1 team ever wins the league. Tottenham wouldn't have joined the superleague if they thought they'd win the league every year.

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FoxinNotts

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1 hour ago, Fox92 said:

Semi finals in Wales? How about Old Trafford and Villa Park like it used to be. Also throw in the Emirates and White Hart Lane now if two Southern clubs got to the semi's.

 

Scrapping FA Cup replays denies lower league teams their chance to play at a bigger/better ground, possibly, and everything that goes with that including the fans only chance to get to said ground.

 

Scrap the League Cup? A cup we've won multiple times. No. This is, again, a competition that gives fans and players hope that one day they could win it. In recent years we've seen Bradford City reach the final. It's nice for clubs like that, if not all clubs, to focus on something else besides their leagues (and FA Cup of course which is usually won by a bigger club). Why would you wanna withdraw a trophy from the game!?

I don’t think Semi finals should be played in a stadium occupied by another club. Cardiff is a nice venue. Teams from Wales are in our league structure. Used their national stadium.

 

FA Cup replays - Too many games in our domestic season. 
 

League Cup - see above

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5 minutes ago, FoxinNotts said:

I don’t think Semi finals should be played in a stadium occupied by another club. Cardiff is a nice venue. Teams from Wales are in our league structure. Used their national stadium.

 

FA Cup replays - Too many games in our domestic season. 
 

League Cup - see above

I will agree to disagree of Millenium Stadium. It is a nice ground and was used for finals in between Wembley being built.

 

But too many games in our domestic season I do not agree with. I don't wanna just see us compete in the league. How on earth did players manage before when pitches were much worse and when fierce challenges were actually allowed :rolleyes: 

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davieG

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16 minutes ago, FoxinNotts said:

Too many games in our domestic season. 

Only for those in Europe which they keep increasing. How about less games in the CL & Europa League.

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2 hours ago, Kitchandro said:

Every single authority - the owners, FIFA, UEFA, The FA, The Football League & Sky Sports - have 

 

People talk about the Champions League and Premier League as if they are the anti-super league. What nonsense, they were both stepping stones towards it.

 

 

Yes and I suppose many will turn back to the reformed Champions League now with open arms 🤔

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18 hours ago, enmac said:

Thanks. I've just read it myself. The problem is that the PL is owned jointly by the current 20 teams. The PL sets the rules. Are these owners going to volantarily give up 51% of their ownership? I can't see it. 

Homeowners know well the government can force sales, for the public good, should their house be on a planned train line.

 

The government could force club owners to share ownership, with 10 year grace period, say.

 

The only missing piece of the puzzle is sustained national pressure.

 

Politicians side with the rich and their party donations. But if politicians’ jobs are threatened, they can be moved.

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Webbo

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7 minutes ago, SemperEadem said:

With 50+1 for it work ALL clubs would need to buy in, we would need to be one of those. How would you feel having King Power going from 100% ownership to a none controlling stake?

Would they put money if they didn't have the final say in how its spent? I doubt it. 

 

Does anyone remember how popular the Foxes Trust used to be on here? 

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I think a fair scenario in terms of European competition would be the winners of the top 16 leagues in Europe gain direct entry to the Champions League. Teams finishing second in the top 6 leagues also go straight in as they'll need appeased somehow.

That leaves ten places up for grabs via a qualifying route. Teams that finished second in their leagues outwith the top 6 but still in the top 16 would have to play a single to legged qualifier and then have layers of qualifiers below that for teams in leagues outwith the top 16. None of this dropping out one competition into the other carry on either.

 

The above will never happen, things have gone too far in terms of greed, money and commercialism now but something like this would distribute the wealth more evenly and fairly, instead of concentrating it to the top 5 leagues as is currently the case, ironically who have and generate the most money anyway. It'd also restore the Europa League/UEFA cup to the strong and exciting competition it once was.

 

Oh and I'd slap every side involved in this ESL farce with a five year ban from all European competition to teach them a lesson.

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Muzzy_Larsson

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19 hours ago, FoxesWalk said:

On top of that, in order to improve the financial situation of football, there should be player and manager salary caps, and limits on agents fees. A bit harder to do with transfer fees, but they’re also a problem. All these things can improve financial viability for these behemoth commercial clubs. 
 

I personally like the idea that each club could sell a pass to view the content of its own games, and do away with having to pay multiple subscriptions. Better for fans and clubs with more fans will be able to earn vast sums from this. Will severely reduce illegal streaming if priced correctly too. I’m reluctant to pay £100/month or whatever to sky/bt/Amazon, but if a reasonable fee went direct to Leicester? Sign me up. 

This is happening in Scotland as of next season for any match that isn't televised on Sky.

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Foxxed

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23 minutes ago, SemperEadem said:

With 50+1 for it work ALL clubs would need to buy in, we would need to be one of those. How would you feel having King Power going from 100% ownership to a none controlling stake?

Fine. Vote to give them control for 5 years. Then renew.

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Muzzy_Larsson

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17 minutes ago, Webbo said:

Would they put money if they didn't have the final say in how its spent? I doubt it. 

 

Does anyone remember how popular the Foxes Trust used to be on here? 

Who cares. Most of these owners don't put much of their own money in anyway, look at the Glazers at Man Utd, the club was bought and is run on debt/credit.

 

EPL clubs don't need these american owners and the likes they generate more money as it is than any other league in the world through TV deals and the most expensive ticketing in Europe.

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