Ric Flair Posted 26 December 2021 Share Posted 26 December 2021 Just now, Corky said: Didn't you call the 4-1 win at Leeds last season? THIS BLOKE KNOWS. WE LISTEN Hahaha I had a purple patch. Said we'd beat Arsenal with a shithouse Vardy 1-0 and then follow it up with 4-1 at Elland Road. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moore_94 Posted 26 December 2021 Share Posted 26 December 2021 1 minute ago, Silver surfer 1 said: Benkovic has looked like he has potential , I am perplexed about how in this dire situation he still hasn’t been given a sniff of a start these past few week . Br has been at fault. I really feel for the lad . He deserves a chance with a better manager He looked like he had potential 3 years ago Since then he has been nothing but a bag of injuries and failed loans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sly Posted 26 December 2021 Share Posted 26 December 2021 1 minute ago, Silver surfer 1 said: Benkovic has looked like he has potential , I am perplexed about how in this dire situation he still hasn’t been given a sniff of a start these past few week . Br has been at fault. I really feel for the lad . He deserves a chance with a better manager Not sure how he’s caught COVID, surely you need to be near people?!? He’s not been seen for months. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadno'r Cymoedd Posted 26 December 2021 Share Posted 26 December 2021 1 minute ago, StanSP said: Daka was injured. Soyuncu was injured. What were the options here? I personally don't see it and would be very worried if people did support us if we dropped that low down! Given our expectations I don't think any manager taking us below 14/15th at this stage of season survives. We are not going to agree. Fair enough. Rodgers is on very thin ice in my eyes. Perhaps you think differently. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzzy_Larsson Posted 26 December 2021 Share Posted 26 December 2021 4 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: Some angry folk on Wednesday before the Liverpool game when I was continuing to question Rodgers and not being bowled over by a decent win vs a heinous Newcastle side. Now look at the vitriol. We are honking and this is only ending one way, he's done here and it's just a waste of everybody's time that we have to go through this procession before it happens. Have to agree with this, things are regressing at an alarming rate and there is very little to cling to in terms of signs of things changing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 26 December 2021 Share Posted 26 December 2021 28 minutes ago, Muzzy_Larsson said: Yeah was exact same at Celtic, over the course of pretty much all his time at the club. I'll just leave this here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Fresh Posted 26 December 2021 Share Posted 26 December 2021 4 minutes ago, ARTY_FOX said: But his loan spells since (in the championship) haven't been a success really. 11 appearances across about 3 seasons off the top of my head Cardiff he was signed to be a back up as they let Flint go out on loan, Bristol City were keen on him and if we believe Andy King the manager of Leuven wasn't overly keen on the Leicester link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheppyFox Posted 26 December 2021 Share Posted 26 December 2021 Injuries are his fault. Tactics are his. Substitutes are his. He has to go, his training has decimated this squad and we’re playing football, in excitement terms equal to Puel. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Fresh Posted 26 December 2021 Share Posted 26 December 2021 4 minutes ago, moore_94 said: He looked like he had potential 3 years ago Since then he has been nothing but a bag of injuries and failed loans Failed loans is harsh, Cardiff he was signed as a late replacement to let Flint go out, Bristol City liked him and King was adamant the Leuven manager wasn't fond of the Leicester link. Sounds like mismanagement by us in terms of arranging him a loan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moore_94 Posted 26 December 2021 Share Posted 26 December 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Tommy Fresh said: Cardiff he was signed to be a back up as they let Flint go out on loan, Bristol City were keen on him and if we believe Andy King the manager of Leuven wasn't overly keen on the Leicester link When he did eventually play for Cardiff he was absolutely horrendous and also missed being available for about half the games he was there because he couldn't stay fit Edited 26 December 2021 by moore_94 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honeybradger Posted 26 December 2021 Share Posted 26 December 2021 4 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: Some angry folk on Wednesday before the Liverpool game when I was continuing to question Rodgers and not being bowled over by a decent win vs a heinous Newcastle side. Now look at the vitriol. We are honking and this is only ending one way, he's done here and it's just a waste of everybody's time that we have to go through this procession before it happens. He's been done since the villa game, doubly so when we crashed out of Europa league against Napoli's second team. Some people on here lack any kind of foresight saying things like "we're only 4 points off 6th place" after the newcastle game without checking the fixture list and seeing we're most likely going to get a max 4 points from the games following considering the opposition. Now i trust the board's judgement more than my own so if they see something in rodgers that's stopping them push the button then fair enough, but from a fan's perspective without any additional knowledge it seems like we're just wasting time with him here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTY_FOX Posted 26 December 2021 Share Posted 26 December 2021 3 minutes ago, Tommy Fresh said: Cardiff he was signed to be a back up as they let Flint go out on loan, Bristol City were keen on him and if we believe Andy King the manager of Leuven wasn't overly keen on the Leicester link But if he was good enough for us then why would he only be a back up at Cardiff? Surley he'd be first name down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky Posted 26 December 2021 Share Posted 26 December 2021 This isn't even in our worst 5 results of the season. Getting tonked today shouldn't change a thing really. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sly Posted 26 December 2021 Share Posted 26 December 2021 10 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: Some angry folk on Wednesday before the Liverpool game when I was continuing to question Rodgers and not being bowled over by a decent win vs a heinous Newcastle side. Now look at the vitriol. We are honking and this is only ending one way, he's done here and it's just a waste of everybody's time that we have to go through this procession before it happens. I’ve been on this train of thought for a while. He’s a 2 season Manager, before the squad zones out. Unless you’ve got a high squad turnover, then it isn’t working. He’s been great for us, however at this moment, I’d question quite a few things he’s doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sly Posted 26 December 2021 Share Posted 26 December 2021 2 minutes ago, moore_94 said: When he did eventually play for Cardiff he was absolutely horrendous and also missed being available for about half the games he was there because he couldn't stay fit Is it a lack of professionalism, or is he literally made of glass? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Fresh Posted 26 December 2021 Share Posted 26 December 2021 1 minute ago, moore_94 said: When he did eventually play for Cardiff he was absolutely horrendous and also missed being available for about half the games he was there because he couldn't stay fit He couldn't stay fit is probably the wrong term no? Implies he's doing something wrong. He also played one game for Cardiff... we persisted with McGivern more than that. Also probably pretty tough getting chucked in to a Championship side when you've done nothing but sit about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sly Posted 26 December 2021 Share Posted 26 December 2021 1 minute ago, Corky said: This isn't even in our worst 5 results of the season. Getting tonked today shouldn't change a thing really. Comeback is on …. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Fresh Posted 26 December 2021 Share Posted 26 December 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, ARTY_FOX said: But if he was good enough for us then why would he only be a back up at Cardiff? Surley he'd be first name down. Maybe Cardiff play a certain way? Late in the window and was the only option available? Manager may have preferred to start with experienced football league centre backs..... not as cut and dry as ability is it Edited 26 December 2021 by Tommy Fresh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton Fox Posted 26 December 2021 Share Posted 26 December 2021 Great goal that was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTY_FOX Posted 26 December 2021 Share Posted 26 December 2021 1 minute ago, Tommy Fresh said: Maybe Cardiff play a certain way? Late in the window as was the only option available? Manager may have preferred to start with experienced football league centre backs..... not as cut and dry as ability is it I just think he'd have played his way in to both our squad and theirs in the time he had of he was good enough is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moore_94 Posted 26 December 2021 Share Posted 26 December 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Tommy Fresh said: He couldn't stay fit is probably the wrong term no? Implies he's doing something wrong. He also played one game for Cardiff... we persisted with McGivern more than that. Also probably pretty tough getting chucked in to a Championship side when you've done nothing but sit about I imagine it is even tougher being thrown into a Premier League game against one of the best teams in the world when he has done nothing but sit about? At the time of Benkovic going on loan to Cardiff Rodgers said he wasn't ready for Premier League football, certainly wouldn't be now. “You’ve got to look at the needs of Filip,” said Rodgers at his press conference on Wednesday. “He’s not ready to play in the Premier League yet. That’s pretty clear. That’s the brutal honesty of it. “We felt it was always going to be best for him and for us, to get him out to get the games and play at a level that he’s going to be comfortable at, rather than be exposed. That was the reason for him going out. Edited 26 December 2021 by moore_94 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Fresh Posted 26 December 2021 Share Posted 26 December 2021 1 minute ago, ARTY_FOX said: I just think he'd have played his way in to both our squad and theirs in the time he had of he was good enough is all. But we've never seen him is the point, there's surely been occassions when he could have played just to try him out. At least then we could go ah fair enough he isn't quite good enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxyPalace.com Posted 26 December 2021 Share Posted 26 December 2021 No way back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Fresh Posted 26 December 2021 Share Posted 26 December 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, moore_94 said: I imagine it is even tougher being thrown into a Premier League game against one of the best teams in the world when he has done nothing but sit about? At the time of Benkovic going on loan to Cardiff Rodgers said he wasn't ready for Premier League football, certainly wouldn't be now. “You’ve got to look at the needs of Filip,” said Rodgers at his press conference on Wednesday. “He’s not ready to play in the Premier League yet. That’s pretty clear. That’s the brutal honesty of it. “We felt it was always going to be best for him and for us, to get him out to get the games and play at a level that he’s going to be comfortable at, rather than be exposed. That was the reason for him going out. Any reason not to try him in the Europa though? Why haven't we sorted another loan or moved him on then? Rather than have him sit about? He might have matured now or had a great pre season in terms of getting his fitness up.... point is none of us know because we've never even tried him out Edited 26 December 2021 by Tommy Fresh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moore_94 Posted 26 December 2021 Share Posted 26 December 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, Tommy Fresh said: Any reason not to try him in the Europa though? Why haven't we sorted another loan or moved him on then? Rather than have him sit about? We actually wanted to try and progress in Europa? For all we know we tried, but there was 0 news of anything about a loan or move at all for him which suggests either wanted to keep him (I doubt) or there just wasn't any interest in him (which I suspect was the case) Edited 26 December 2021 by moore_94 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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