Guest David Oldfields Gate Posted 24 August 2022 Posted 24 August 2022 1. This is not about this season, the decline goes way back, even before the FA Cup. 2. I would have a lot more respect for BR if he stopped bullsh!ting and just said "I am really struggling to get a tune out of these players and it is my responsibility", which of course is true and accurate.
BigMicky Posted 24 August 2022 Posted 24 August 2022 4 minutes ago, David Oldfields Gate said: 1. This is not about this season, the decline goes way back, even before the FA Cup. 2. I would have a lot more respect for BR if he stopped bullsh!ting and just said "I am really struggling to get a tune out of these players and it is my responsibility", which of course is true and accurate. Name one manager in the history of football that has ever said that. Why do you expect such ridiculous statements from Rodgers knowing full well that that isn't the norm.
foxile5 Posted 24 August 2022 Posted 24 August 2022 6 minutes ago, David Oldfields Gate said: 1. This is not about this season, the decline goes way back, even before the FA Cup. 2. I would have a lot more respect for BR if he stopped bullsh!ting and just said "I am really struggling to get a tune out of these players and it is my responsibility", which of course is true and accurate. The second point is probably the root of all my concerns. The chicanery and, on occasion, outright lying when it comes to the plainly obvious makes clowns out of the supporters. We might not be elite footballers but we can certainly see the issues from the stands and trying to convince us that up is down and black is white is just insulting to us. No you didn't speak about a refreshed culture, Brendan. You.directly referenced signings. Stop truth twisting. No we aren't an inexperienced side, Brendan, they are highly accomplished professionals with multiple trophies. Stop lying. 2
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 24 August 2022 Posted 24 August 2022 35 minutes ago, coolhandfox said: There is nothing wrong with peaceful protest, and making your voice heard. You're right, but most of them are "plastic" so called fans. That's the sad truth.
Popular Post Trumpet Posted 24 August 2022 Popular Post Posted 24 August 2022 (edited) I can’t remember a manager that was so dead and buried but able to remain in post. Your own fans singing “sacked in the morning” is as damning as it gets. I’ve given up listening to what he has to say pre and post match, but I get the feeling he’s not even showing any fight or talk of turning it around. The man has over the course of a year (though the signs were there before that) sucked the life out of this club and, maybe not single-handedly, admittedly, dismantled years of work. Edited 24 August 2022 by Trumpet 5
BigMicky Posted 24 August 2022 Posted 24 August 2022 1 minute ago, foxile5 said: The second point is probably the root of all my concerns. The chicanery and, on occasion, outright lying when it comes to the plainly obvious makes clowns out of the supporters. We might not be elite footballers but we can certainly see the issues from the stands and trying to convince us that up is down and black is white is just insulting to us. No you didn't speak about a refreshed culture, Brendan. You.directly referenced signings. Stop truth twisting. No we aren't an inexperienced side, Brendan, they are highly accomplished professionals with multiple trophies. Stop lying. What does inexperienced mean to you? Based on number of games played?
gazzaa2 Posted 24 August 2022 Posted 24 August 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, Leeds Fox said: Towards the back end of last season, I couldn’t wait for it to be over. Get some players fit, regroup and look forward to a new season. Three games in, I feel exactly the fuching same. THREE GAMES! I don’t believe the quality of the squad (or at least the first 11-15) is the reason. I’m not absolving the players of any blame, but the whole aura around the club, on the pitch and off of it stems from Rodgers. He’s done well here overall, but he needs to go and soon. Luckily, plenty of teams have had a poor start, and if we can make a change and pick up some form quickly, this season is 100% salvageable. I think, if any decent managers were available and had been sounded out, BR would be on his way by the end of the week. Would love Poch or Potter. If we don’t move soon, nobody bar the ones none of us really want will come here. Problem with attracting a quality manager is we seem to have slipped down to the bottom half in terms of spending power rather than the top 7 or 8 of the PL. You've got the big 6, Newcastle now, West Ham, Everton always find money and are funding a new 50k stadium, Villa have spent a lot lately and are a big club and even now Leeds and Forest back in the top flight spending. We're more back in the pack with the likes of Palace and Southampton especially after Rodgers's mismanagement (and the owners scaling back) so why would Potter leave Brighton for Leicester now? He'll wait for a bigger job. For me, Potter is basically a much better Brendan Rodgers. A similar type of coach but without the ego and arrogance and transfer market fiascos. The two CL near misses and then the chance to win the Conference League last year a real missed opportunity of course. That would have really raised our profile. Edited 24 August 2022 by gazzaa2 1
foxile5 Posted 24 August 2022 Posted 24 August 2022 9 minutes ago, BigMicky said: What does inexperienced mean to you? Based on number of games played? Whatever metric he's judging them by when he calls them inexperienced is basically wrong. Surely you can't be in agreement with him when he's called our squad inexperienced.
foxile5 Posted 24 August 2022 Posted 24 August 2022 15 minutes ago, BigMicky said: What does inexperienced mean to you? Based on number of games played? I mean for me it would be games at this, trophies, and international experience. Which our squad has in spades.
Fox92 Posted 24 August 2022 Author Posted 24 August 2022 3 hours ago, Wasyls Pec Deck said: Sorry but I found it awkward in the away end last night regarding this. Even if you think it, don't sing it directly at our own manager. Especially before a penalty shootout we needed to win. 3
SecretPro Posted 24 August 2022 Posted 24 August 2022 Just seen Marco Rose in Morrisons. Make of that what you will. 1 2
taupe Posted 24 August 2022 Posted 24 August 2022 3 minutes ago, SecretPro said: Just seen Marco Rose in Morrisons. Make of that what you will. Ooo, cryptic. Is it an anagram?
volpeazzurro Posted 24 August 2022 Posted 24 August 2022 1 hour ago, Nobbyburton said: I would usually agree with this and I do think our fans could show a bit more class at times, but I really think we have every right to be angry here. We've watched some absolute car crash football over the last couple of years, the way we've capitulated under Rodgers has had to be seen to be believed at times (I still can't fathom how that Spurs home game happened) It really feels like we're watching our club slowly decline for completely pointless reasons and we have no control over it. It's so frustrating to watch us make the same mistakes and hear the same excuses from Brendan every single week. Then immediately after, tune in for Match of the day to see every other ****ing team in this league playing with more intensity and effort than us. When you add all that to the day to day cost of living problems people are facing at the moment - A football ground used to be an escape from all that, now more than ever it feels like our club is just another place desperate to squeeze every penny out of us (Just paid £47.50 for a Forest ticket btw, maybe i'll have a £5.80 pint with that) Then you can add this Fofana nonsense into the mix, a guy earning that kind of money to just say they don't fancy playing is pretty hard to take for your average football fan and definitely pushes them further away from us. You can be grateful for what we have achieved but at the same time realise these are extremely well paid people, who really don't have much loyalty to us or the club, they are always thinking about their next move. Whether it's 'Rodgers Out' or about 'being sacked in the morning', it's the only real way of letting the board know what fans think. A general 'booing' could mean absolutely anything including a perceived dig at the players themselves which isn't necessarily what fans are trying to get over. Whilst players can't be 100% blameless on occasions, I think the consensus is that our current demise is in the main down to one man and one man only over a considerable period of time and he seems unable or unwilling to learn lessons, still thinks he's right or blames everyone else but himself. He can no longer be trusted. We're not against the players so the 'blame' has to be targeted. Last night's mini protest therefore was imo perfectly legitimate as I see no other option. 4
volpeazzurro Posted 24 August 2022 Posted 24 August 2022 19 minutes ago, Fox92 said: Sorry but I found it awkward in the away end last night regarding this. Even if you think it, don't sing it directly at our own manager. Especially before a penalty shootout we needed to win. Not for me, give him both barrels, he fully deserves it! Getting rid of him far exceeds a penalty shootout! One's a minor cup competition, albeit a nice one to win, the other is potentially the Premiership survival and even longer term future of our club.
sacreblueits442 Posted 24 August 2022 Posted 24 August 2022 2 hours ago, chris_lcfc_85 said: Harsh imo sorry. I'd always say be careful what you wish for.... Whoever comes in will have the same players and no money..... ...and a revitalised squad of players!!! You think that these set of players should be playing at this standard? 1
Wasyls Pec Deck Posted 24 August 2022 Posted 24 August 2022 43 minutes ago, Fox92 said: Sorry but I found it awkward in the away end last night regarding this. Even if you think it, don't sing it directly at our own manager. Especially before a penalty shootout we needed to win. Wouldn’t be my thing either 1
Popular Post Mickyblueeyes Posted 24 August 2022 Popular Post Posted 24 August 2022 Fans being criticised for not showing loyalty/respect to managers players. in a season where one dickhead has chosen not to show up to training. Spent most of last season on the treatment table. Another dickhead has been twerking for a move for 8 months and puts in a piss poor effort and performances for the majority of the time. Not to mention giving goals away like he’s Santa clause. And a manager who feeds us rubbish on a weekly basis. in that same period, this club has built the world’s best health spa. Increased ticket prices and released three kits, all over £60. MFs don’t even let me take my fruit shoot in. No signings and no clear message as to why we look like we are going down the pan. There is no loyalty in football (except Vards who can do what he wants). Don’t criticise a fan base for venting some frustration when they’ve gone to ****ing Stockport on a weekday to watch a 0-0 and 750 passes sideways (which is now our new normal). How else do you express frustration ? It’s not fun nor normal at present to be a Leicester fan. 47 12
AjcW Posted 24 August 2022 Posted 24 August 2022 Just clocked he's whipped the all black simeone suit look out. That's like his version of Arsenals 'get the retro kits out!!' when they're on a bad run 1
Popular Post Celtic Chief Posted 24 August 2022 Popular Post Posted 24 August 2022 (edited) This is EXACTLY how his time at Celtic went down. Standard of football declined to pedestrian levels. His football ethos, nowhere to be seen anymore. Moaning about signings. Publicly unsettled and had a direct hand in dealing with players looking to leave who were disgruntled. He won't be doing much to dissuade them from leaving. He did the same with Boyata for us and also Moussa. He is a snake salesman who puts effort in for a year, downs tools and ****s off. Sadly, he is using your club for his own needs, just as he did Celtic. Edited 24 August 2022 by Celtic Chief 22 5 1
Popular Post sm1 Posted 24 August 2022 Popular Post Posted 24 August 2022 I'm afraid too many Rodgers fans are living in the past. We've been on a gradual slide for 16/17 months. Looking at the stats, since April 2021, we've played 46 PL games, winning 15 and losing 19. This season we look even worse and if it's a relegation dogfight, can you see this piss weak team of bottlers, fronted by a serial liar, fighting for our club? 6
StanSP Posted 24 August 2022 Posted 24 August 2022 7 minutes ago, Celtic Chief said: This is EXACTLY how his time at Celtic went down. Standard of football declined to pedestrian levels. His football ethos, nowhere to be seen anymore. Moaning about signings. Publicly unsettled and had a direct hand in dealing with players looking to leave who were disgruntled. He won't be doing much to dissuade them from leaving. He did the same with Boyata for us and also Moussa. He is a snake salesman who puts effort in for a year, downs tools and ****s off. Sadly, he is using your club for his own needs, just as he did Celtic. It's interesting he persists with this considering this is the reputation he will carry with him. Like Mourinho's 3rd seasons always end up ending sourly wherever he goes. I'm not sure what purpose it serves with Rodgers persisting like he is. Avoiding the need to change his ways and instead just being stubborn. If he thinks it'll help him get jobs elsewhere or at bigger clubs I can't see it happening. 2
TMELcfc Posted 24 August 2022 Posted 24 August 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Celtic Chief said: This is EXACTLY how his time at Celtic went down. Standard of football declined to pedestrian levels. His football ethos, nowhere to be seen anymore. Moaning about signings. Publicly unsettled and had a direct hand in dealing with players looking to leave who were disgruntled. He won't be doing much to dissuade them from leaving. He did the same with Boyata for us and also Moussa. He is a snake salesman who puts effort in for a year, downs tools and ****s off. Sadly, he is using your club for his own needs, just as he did Celtic. I knew it, and although there was an outpouring of anger from Celtic fans at the time, if you actually dug deep enough past the guff the media came out with (Chris Sutton being one example) there was quite a few Celtic fans who didn’t seem that bothered… they were fed up of the borefests, the clashes with the board etc. I never wanted him and I’ve said before, I had to swallow my pride as initially what we were watching was decent, but that soon fizzled out. Edited 24 August 2022 by TMELcfc 1
Trumpet Posted 24 August 2022 Posted 24 August 2022 2 minutes ago, StanSP said: It's interesting he persists with this considering this is the reputation he will carry with him. Like Mourinho's 3rd seasons always end up ending sourly wherever he goes. I'm not sure what purpose it serves with Rodgers persisting like he is. Avoiding the need to change his ways and instead just being stubborn. If he thinks it'll help him get jobs elsewhere or at bigger clubs I can't see it happening. It’s as though he gets some success which puts him in credit to do whatever the **** he wants and the media / wider football world don’t see the full picture. With us the 5th place finishes and FA Cup, Celtic from memory every domestic trophy. 2
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