Brendan Rodgers

[los dedos]

29 minutes ago, pmcla26 said:

Doubt it. To who? 

 

[Fox92]

18 hours ago, Freeman's Wharfer said:

Some absolute revisionism going on about Puel in this thread.

 

There was progress under him in a short-lived period where he was in the process of getting us used to keeping possession but we still had our deadly counter attack. However he kept adding more and more shackles that killed that counter attack and left us as a side who could keep the ball but do nothing with it as we were so cautious that we dared not venture past the halfway line in any significant numbers.

 

The Mendy and Ndidi dream team. An attacking sub consisting of Simpson on at right back and Ricardo up from right back to right wing. Getting beaten to European football by a very average Burnley side. Failing to beat absolute dross like Newcastle, Palace, West Brom and others at home. An isolated or benched Vardy. Eurgh…. It was horrid.

 

Rodgers came in and did something pretty simple: he took the shackles off. Got a supply line into Vardy. Had numbers committing forward. Broke up the Mendy and Ndidi pairing.

 

Had we stuck with Puel we were looking more like relegation candidates than Champions League ones.

 

 

Tbf that season he took us from 18th (or wherever we were when Shakespeare got sacked) all the way up to 9th. The end of the season results were horrific (Palace, Burnley, Southampton etc).

 

Also Puel never had us near a relegation battle. Even when he got sacked we were 12th.

 

We brought in a much better manager in Rodgers and that has been proven over time.

 

However, an isolated Vardy is a problem we're currently experiencing. Rodgers needs to get someone up top with him, or at least closer to him. He's nearly 35 ffs and he's playing as a lone striker trying to do everything.

[Guest SO1]

42 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

Tbf that season he took us from 18th (or wherever we were when Shakespeare got sacked) all the way up to 9th. The end of the season results were horrific (Palace, Burnley, Southampton etc).

 

Also Puel never had us near a relegation battle. Even when he got sacked we were 12th.

 

We brought in a much better manager in Rodgers and that has been proven over time.

 

However, an isolated Vardy is a problem we're currently experiencing. Rodgers needs to get someone up top with him, or at least closer to him. He's nearly 35 ffs and he's playing as a lone striker trying to do everything.

Hit the nail on the head with Vardy being isolated. Think if Rodgers sticks with Soumare, Lookman and gets Iheanacho behind him he will get more opportunities. Yesterdays 2nd half gave me reason for optimism. Just be nice to see it from the start. 

[Chrysalis]

5 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

Bring him back for a few weeks for a laugh. I think we should do what failing bands do and they all reform and merge for some pathetic tour. We should have Puel, Ranieri, Shakey and Nigel all doing a month each on a rota. Brendan hasn't had a big enough horrible patch yet to warrant being involved. 

Not the 6 month patch end of 2019 season?

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017–18_Leicester_City_F.C._season  puel took over 25 oct, shakespeare at start

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018–19_Leicester_City_F.C._season end of puel era, start of rodgers

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019–20_Leicester_City_F.C._season lightning start by rodgers, car crash end

 

[Wymsey]

Couldn't ask for a more capable manager, generally speaking.

 

Also think that Mike Stowell deserves some appreciation; he's seen the club go through very tough times to where the club is now - perhaps an unsung hero, even?

Edited 21 September 2021 by Wymsey

[Frank Large's Black Book]

Report claims Barca considering former Celtic manager Brendan Rodgers

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thecelticstar.com/report-claims-barca-considering-former-celtic-manager-brendan-rodgers/amp/

[Sly]

29 minutes ago, Frank Large's Black Book said:

Report claims Barca considering former Celtic manager Brendan Rodgers

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thecelticstar.com/report-claims-barca-considering-former-celtic-manager-brendan-rodgers/amp/

If Barca want him, he’ll go. They’ve got the worst squad they’ve had for years, however it’s one of the biggest managerial jobs in world football.   
 

 

[Ric Flair]

1 hour ago, Chrysalis said:

Not the 6 month patch end of 2019 season?

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017–18_Leicester_City_F.C._season  puel took over 25 oct, shakespeare at start

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018–19_Leicester_City_F.C._season end of puel era, start of rodgers

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019–20_Leicester_City_F.C._season lightning start by rodgers, car crash end

 

Achieved though in both seasons though, finishing 5th and winning a cup. Complete night and day to the horrors that Ranieri found himself in in 16/17 and the severe mediocrity of Shakespeare and Puel. 

[wattolcfc]

1 hour ago, Wymsey said:

Couldn't ask for a more capable manager, generally speaking.

 

Also think that Mike Stowell deserves some appreciation; he's seen the club go through very tough times to where the club is now - perhaps an unsung hero, even?

As a goalkeeping coach I’d argue he’s been average at best. Kasper has never improved on his weaknesses, commanding his area and his kicking. If he had done, he would be talked about as one of the best in Europe.

[Wolfox]

2 minutes ago, wattolcfc said:

As a goalkeeping coach I’d argue he’s been average at best. Kasper has never improved on his weaknesses, commanding his area and his kicking. If he had done, he would be talked about as one of the best in Europe.

Kasper not being a good at distribution is a myth…. I’ve seen plenty of stats that clearly show it’s a strength 

[st albans fox]

10 minutes ago, Sly said:

If Barca want him, he’ll go. They’ve got the worst squad they’ve had for years, however it’s one of the biggest managerial jobs in world football.   
 

Interesting- the narrative behind BR is that he learned Spanish because he wants to manage in Spain …..whilst Barca may well be a financial basket case at the moment, no way would he turn it down and no way would we stand in his way either. 
 

whilst Brendan needs to make sure that he doesn’t appear too mercenary in his approach to job offers, the football world would understand him ditching us for them. 
 

whether they really are interested is another matter entirely …..

[Deeg67]

1 hour ago, Frank Large's Black Book said:

Report claims Barca considering former Celtic manager Brendan Rodgers

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thecelticstar.com/report-claims-barca-considering-former-celtic-manager-brendan-rodgers/amp/

Thanks, it's important to laugh at stressful times like these.

[Aus Fox]

A manager with Brendan’s CV will be spoken about in every single board room that has a vacancy.

He will appear on short lists for all big clubs, because he is one of the best managers in world football. - With Pep, Flick, Tuncel, Klopp and Simeone the top 5 and all in secure jobs, maybe Nagelsmann in that elite group too - Brendan is certainly in the next group of 5 - 10 best managers in the world.
He’s proven this with Celtic - have a look at them since he left and with us competing above our weight.

We are building something special here, and some of you would rather have Puel back. 

[HankMarvin]

1 hour ago, Wolfox said:

Kasper not being a good at distribution is a myth…. I’ve seen plenty of stats that clearly show it’s a strength 

It’s not a strength 

surprisingly when we won the league it was 36% completed passes.

 

Over the next 5 years it has improved.

under BR its ranged from 70-75% his highest at the club.

 

Due to the change in tactics.

[HankMarvin]

1 hour ago, st albans fox said:

Interesting- the narrative behind BR is that he learned Spanish because he wants to manage in Spain …..whilst Barca may well be a financial basket case at the moment, no way would he turn it down and no way would we stand in his way either. 
 

whilst Brendan needs to make sure that he doesn’t appear too mercenary in his approach to job offers, the football world would understand him ditching us for them. 
 

whether they really are interested is another matter entirely …..

Odds would suggest not

 

https://www.bettingodds.com/thesackrace/teams/barcelona

 

 

[shailen]

For Brendan to have us competing with the top 4 clubs, spending what we've spent compared to them and beating them in finals is remarkable. People don't like playing out from the back and I totally get it, but I admire the confidence he has in the team to play that way and beat the press to set up attacks. I don't actually think we've conceded that many goals directly from playing out from the back. 

[jim5000]

31 minutes ago, HankMarvin said:

It’s not a strength 

surprisingly when we won the league it was 36% completed passes.

 

Over the next 5 years it has improved.

under BR its ranged from 70-75% his highest at the club.

 

Due to the change in tactics.

It's easier to pass the ball out to Soyucu than it is to ping a 50 yard pass to Drinkwater or 100 yard pass straight through to Vardy.....

[jim5000]

21 minutes ago, shailen said:

For Brendan to have us competing with the top 4 clubs, spending what we've spent compared to them and beating them in finals is remarkable. People don't like playing out from the back and I totally get it, but I admire the confidence he has in the team to play that way and beat the press to set up attacks. I don't actually think we've conceded that many goals directly from playing out from the back. 

 

We've averaged 2 goals conceded per match at the start of the season. Admittidly our first choice back two are crocked and we're bedding in a new defensive partnership while bringing Evans back into the fold, but it's not a great defensive start. It doesn't really matter whether the goals come from playing out from the back, set pieces, or open play - any goal against is a goal against. It could be argued that conceding all types of goals is easier to fix than just conceding from set plays (for example), as it shows a general defensive weakness rather than a tactical flaw which could be addressed.

 

We're unlikely to get a settled backline this side of Christmas.

Edited 21 September 2021 by jim5000

[fuchsntf]

2 hours ago, jim5000 said:

 

We've averaged 2 goals conceded per match at the start of the season. Admittidly our first choice back two are crocked and we're bedding in a new defensive partnership while bringing Evans back into the fold, but it's not a great defensive start. It doesn't really matter whether the goals come from playing out from the back, set pieces, or open play - any goal against is a goal against. It could be argued that conceding all types of goals is easier to fix than just conceding from set plays (for example), as it shows a general defensive weakness rather than a tactical flaw which could be addressed.

 

We're unlikely to get a settled backline this side of Christmas.

Depends on Santa's free days...Game-Time against grotto-time..

[FoxyLeon]

4 hours ago, Aus Fox said:

A manager with Brendan’s CV will be spoken about in every single board room that has a vacancy.

He will appear on short lists for all big clubs, because he is one of the best managers in world football. - With Pep, Flick, Tuncel, Klopp and Simeone the top 5 and all in secure jobs, maybe Nagelsmann in that elite group too - Brendan is certainly in the next group of 5 - 10 best managers in the world.
He’s proven this with Celtic - have a look at them since he left and with us competing above our weight.

We are building something special here, and some of you would rather have Puel back. 

 

Rodgers CV?

 

He's won an FA Cup.....Bottled a PL, and two top 4 finishes.

Our fans overrate him big time, when you view Pep/Klopp/Tuchel/Benitez etc, he's miles behind, he may be top 5-10 in the PL, but not in the world.

I'd say Dyche's CV, is superior...Same with Allardyce....But obviously you're never going to get that style of management at a club like Barcelona, or the requirement for it.

 

We are 'Building something special'.....

And don't you ever forget the man/men/family responsible for that, it certainly isn't Rodgers. 

[volpeazzurro]

7 hours ago, Aus Fox said:

A manager with Brendan’s CV will be spoken about in every single board room that has a vacancy.

He will appear on short lists for all big clubs, because he is one of the best managers in world football. - With Pep, Flick, Tuncel, Klopp and Simeone the top 5 and all in secure jobs, maybe Nagelsmann in that elite group too - Brendan is certainly in the next group of 5 - 10 best managers in the world.
He’s proven this with Celtic - have a look at them since he left and with us competing above our weight.

We are building something special here, and some of you would rather have Puel back. 

When Rodgers went to Celtic, no-one would touch him with a barge pole. Let's not make too much out of his tenure there, he entered a two horse race where the second horse had ran off into the distance for quite a while. It would have taken a really poor manager to fail. Nevertheless, the Celtic record book looks good and it was also equally as good for Rodgers metamorphosis, a shrewd and clever move, you can't fault him.

 

Arguably Celtic haven't invested as wisely as Rangers have under Gerrard. Rodgers is a very bright man and could see the writing on the wall and got out just right. He was lucky to get Leicester City who had everything going for them at the time in different ways, another win win situation for him for a number of reasons. 

 

He's a good manager, but light years behind the Tunchels and Peps etc imo. He has some absolutely excellent qualities but is inherently flawed in other ways. Elite he certainly isn't in my view but his media darling image perpetuates the myth and if he fails, it will always be Leicester City's fault and not his. However, neither do I see anyone better and available on the horizon for us either at this pointin time. Our owners are good and will have always factored Rodgers leaving at some stage into their plans, it's just business. 

[lanefox]

9 hours ago, Wolfox said:

Kasper not being a good at distribution is a myth…. I’ve seen plenty of stats that clearly show it’s a strength 

Them stats must be very misleading because his distribution is atrocious 

[mozartfox]

My hard earned is on Big Sam to take over at Barca.

[volpeazzurro]

16 minutes ago, mozartfox said:

My hard earned is on Big Sam to take over at Barca.

Probably similar odds to be fair, highly unlikely 😆

[SkidsFox]

31 minutes ago, mozartfox said:

My hard earned is on Big Sam to take over at Barca.

After Moyes' spell at Real Sociedad, and Neville down at Valencia, I don't think British managers have a great reputation now in Spain. The champion teams in the Premier League are always foreign nowadays, which is a poor reflection too.