Dahnsouff Posted 22 August 2022 Share Posted 22 August 2022 33 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said: Why is there always "contributing factors" in Brendan Rodgers career. At Liverpool it was the transfer committee. At Celtic it was the financial restraints. At Leicester it is the size of the club. Brendan fails to deliver but a few things usually follow him around. Injuries. Collapses. Defensive frailties. Piss poor recruitment. The point I am trying to make is it never is plain sailing but when we pay a manager what we are paying him, I expect some sort of standards - something we are seriously lacking. I would suggest that he has more right to contributing factors here than at Liverpool or Celtic actually, due to finance and/or superiority innate at those clubs But what were you expecting? We would challenge consistently? That is not realistic, as challenging clubs with such ridiculous advantages may have windows of advantage, but to do so consistently requires us to follow suit, and doing that takes time and I am unconvinced it is something we want to do anyway. We seem to be moving towards a youth focused development approach, not buying, but developing and this seems eminently sensible, at least too me. The injuries thing I do see the correlations but also struggle to see how he can solely at fault, unless he is some sort of messianic Napoleon figure, and even then there would need to be an utter abdication of responsibility at other staffing positions. The same unfortunately must hold true for recruitment, as he does not head it up and Congerton being gone must surely be a plus? I was as excited as anyone when he signed, but his time is done, but even now we need an exit that works for the clubs in terms of timing and finances. Or maybe we are a cult… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fazzer 7 Posted 22 August 2022 Share Posted 22 August 2022 3 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said: I dont think you get mine. Its quite worrying. What is quite worrying is your second point has actually agreed with my point! Every board has a right to consider if the member is fulfilling his or her duty in delivering. What is Andy Nevilles role these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Fox Posted 22 August 2022 Share Posted 22 August 2022 36 minutes ago, Dames said: Are we 100% sure that Rodgers didn't recommend Congerton to the firm to get himself a finders fee? Someone told me via WhatsApp he got a £20 UberEats voucher 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMicky Posted 22 August 2022 Share Posted 22 August 2022 3 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said: There has always been an emphasis on a manager - its nothing new. Agreed, and in my opinion far too much emphasis. On this forum it feels like 90% of folk lay the blame solely at the managers door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusko187 Posted 22 August 2022 Share Posted 22 August 2022 26 minutes ago, StanSP said: Heard he's now been given until the Man Utd game. Stockport game is irrelevant. So Chelsea away and Man Utd home are his final chances. That’s nuts if they’ve done that, prolonging the inevitable. Even if he were to turn it around, there’s too much water under the bridge. What is going on with this club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxinsocks Posted 22 August 2022 Share Posted 22 August 2022 1 minute ago, Rusko187 said: That’s nuts if they’ve done that, prolonging the inevitable. Even if he were to turn it around, there’s too much water under the bridge. What is going on with this club? 100% The results of 2 matches don't matter. What matters is the management and leadership of talent costing millions each week. He is what he is... and he needs to go. He wont suddenly become a team player .. or a better tactician 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Posted 22 August 2022 Share Posted 22 August 2022 10 minutes ago, lcfcsnow said: There are only a few ITK on here and they're not teasers like Bert or Stan, it's best to ignore them to save disappointment. I’m not claiming to be ITK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeg67 Posted 22 August 2022 Share Posted 22 August 2022 Legally speaking, can they make him the world's highest paid tea boy or manager of the U-12 squad or something, in the hope he'll be so humiliated he bails? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tetly Posted 22 August 2022 Share Posted 22 August 2022 Sounds like he has ran out of excuses and the board have had enough. Time for him to deliver or go. We have been poor all over the pitch for a while now. Things don’t seem to be improving, no obvious signs he is a top manager that can evolve a team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu Posted 22 August 2022 Share Posted 22 August 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, Bert said: I’m not claiming to be ITK How is your first day at Oddschecker going? Edited 22 August 2022 by stu 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxinsocks Posted 22 August 2022 Share Posted 22 August 2022 Just now, Deeg67 said: Legally speaking, can they make him the world's highest paid tea boy or manager of the U-12 squad or something, in the hope he'll be so humiliated he bails? I think that would be constructive dismissal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxinsocks Posted 22 August 2022 Share Posted 22 August 2022 10 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said: I would suggest that he has more right to contributing factors here than at Liverpool or Celtic actually, due to finance and/or superiority innate at those clubs But what were you expecting? We would challenge consistently? That is not realistic, as challenging clubs with such ridiculous advantages may have windows of advantage, but to do so consistently requires us to follow suit, and doing that takes time and I am unconvinced it is something we want to do anyway. We seem to be moving towards a youth focused development approach, not buying, but developing and this seems eminently sensible, at least too me. The injuries thing I do see the correlations but also struggle to see how he can solely at fault, unless he is some sort of messianic Napoleon figure, and even then there would need to be an utter abdication of responsibility at other staffing positions. The same unfortunately must hold true for recruitment, as he does not head it up and Congerton being gone must surely be a plus? I was as excited as anyone when he signed, but his time is done, but even now we need an exit that works for the clubs in terms of timing and finances. Or maybe we are a cult… Rodgers is a cult Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post VLC86 Posted 22 August 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 22 August 2022 Just now, foxinsocks said: Rodgers is a cult Typo? 2 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Posted 22 August 2022 Share Posted 22 August 2022 44 minutes ago, coolhandfox said: Still believe the biggest error of the judgement was not strengthening in the 19/20 January window. One good signing gets us over the line for CL. We then don't learn from our mistake and do the same in the 20/21 January window. Remember Ryan Bennett. He was a classic Rodgers transfer. After we signed him Brendan said in the media he’s ‘followed Bennett’s career since the Championship and wanted to sign him for Swansea’. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelmofox Posted 22 August 2022 Share Posted 22 August 2022 6 minutes ago, Rusko187 said: That’s nuts if they’ve done that, prolonging the inevitable. Even if he were to turn it around, there’s too much water under the bridge. What is going on with this club? I think this is getting a bit out of hand now. We are taking second information as fact without knowing the full details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taupe Posted 22 August 2022 Share Posted 22 August 2022 (edited) I'd like to take exception a little to that TS thing posted above; the speakers are equating 'backing the manager' with providing funds to bring in players. That's not a fair conclusion to draw. They showed an ignorance of the situation imho, or (let's be fair) an unawareness of the situation. The lack of signings (as we all are hopefully are aware of here by now!) is not necessarily due to lack of funds. Nor is it necessarily correct to say Rodgers is not being backed. Listening to this kind of wibble, I can see how fans can get the wrong end of the stick and go off the deep end. It's enough to almost (hey, I said "almost"!) make me vote 'Rodgers In' in the next poll (in 10 minutes time)!! Edited 22 August 2022 by taupe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerblod Posted 22 August 2022 Share Posted 22 August 2022 5 hours ago, phoneticerror said: Jesus Christ, how crap is the server if it is overwhelmed more by emojis than posts!? 😂😂 Just my explanation - I could just be talking out my a**e. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Posted 22 August 2022 Share Posted 22 August 2022 Yeah we definitely don’t want Rodgers anywhere near our rebuild https://theathletic.com/1609761/2020/02/15/leicester-ryan-bennett-wolves/?amp=1 Why Brendan Rodgers has been waiting eight long years to finally call on his ‘warrior’ Ryan Bennett 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Countryfox Posted 22 August 2022 Share Posted 22 August 2022 9 minutes ago, Bert said: I’m not claiming to be ITK Now you tell me !! .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeg67 Posted 22 August 2022 Share Posted 22 August 2022 7 minutes ago, foxinsocks said: I think that would be constructive dismissal Well, it would certainly be constructive as far as the club's future is concerned. But I do know what you mean and that's what I figured. Just wasn't sure what U.K. laws were like on that score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted 22 August 2022 Share Posted 22 August 2022 3 minutes ago, Shane said: Remember Ryan Bennett. He was a classic Rodgers transfer. After we signed him Brendan said in the media he’s ‘followed Bennett’s career since the Championship and wanted to sign him for Swansea’. Did actually try to sign him for Swansea didn't he when Bennett went to Norwich? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taupe Posted 22 August 2022 Share Posted 22 August 2022 44 minutes ago, StanSP said: Heard he's now been given until the Man Utd game. Stockport game is irrelevant. The club's buying time to assess its options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusko187 Posted 22 August 2022 Share Posted 22 August 2022 3 minutes ago, Chelmofox said: I think this is getting a bit out of hand now. We are taking second information as fact without knowing the full details. I understand this is all hear’say but we can still speculate. The guy won’t change, most certainly for the remainder of his time here and the club are naive for thinking this. Even if he were to get a result against either Chelsea or Man United, do we really trust him to build upon it? As an aside, Stockport (no disrespect intended to them) can not be considered. Anything other than a convincing win against them is a failure to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bert Posted 22 August 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 22 August 2022 12 minutes ago, stu said: How is your first day at Oddschecker going? Already been promoted 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAPA LAZAROU Posted 22 August 2022 Share Posted 22 August 2022 21 minutes ago, pmcla26 said: First of all despite what these third-rate pundits say he isn't a top manager and he won't walk because of all the compo he would lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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