sylofox Posted 31 August 2022 Share Posted 31 August 2022 18 minutes ago, st albans fox said: Rumours like this could be stopping us firing him 15 minutes ago, justfoxes said: Let Villa have him we'll get a large compensation 😉 Sod the compensation we won't have to pay him off. 14 minutes ago, st albans fox said: By the time it happens we could be cut adrift …. Would they really want him if we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nnfox Posted 31 August 2022 Share Posted 31 August 2022 I think the Villa rumours, if there is any truth to them, will result in a case of who blinks first. We'll wait for them to sack Gerrard so they can pay compensation for Rodgers. They'll wait until we sack Rodgers so they don't have to pay any compensation. I think we will be happy to wait until the Villa game at least. If we win that, surely they'll act first? if they win, surely we'll have to? Might be too late by then for Gerrard, their next two games are Arsenal away and Man City at home. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 31 August 2022 Share Posted 31 August 2022 21 minutes ago, sylofox said: Sod the compensation we won't have to pay him off. Would they really want him if we are. Yes - he’s set the narrative it’s not his fault and he’s actually decent for a couple of years I’d have him here ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volpeazzurro Posted 31 August 2022 Share Posted 31 August 2022 1 hour ago, nnfox said: I think the Villa rumours, if there is any truth to them, will result in a case of who blinks first. We'll wait for them to sack Gerrard so they can pay compensation for Rodgers. They'll wait until we sack Rodgers so they don't have to pay any compensation. I think we will be happy to wait until the Villa game at least. If we win that, surely they'll act first? if they win, surely we'll have to? Might be too late by then for Gerrard, their next two games are Arsenal away and Man City at home. Perhaps meet halfway. They sack Gerrard and have Rodgers for free without paying compensation. Brilliant solution. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clever Fox Posted 31 August 2022 Share Posted 31 August 2022 32 minutes ago, volpeazzurro said: Perhaps meet halfway. They sack Gerrard and have Rodgers for free without paying compensation. Brilliant solution. No, Rinse a few million from Villa, They've been throwing it around lately. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 31 August 2022 Share Posted 31 August 2022 1 hour ago, nnfox said: I think the Villa rumours, if there is any truth to them, will result in a case of who blinks first. We'll wait for them to sack Gerrard so they can pay compensation for Rodgers. They'll wait until we sack Rodgers so they don't have to pay any compensation. I think we will be happy to wait until the Villa game at least. If we win that, surely they'll act first? if they win, surely we'll have to? Might be too late by then for Gerrard, their next two games are Arsenal away and Man City at home. We will put him on garden leave, and replace him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number 6 Posted 31 August 2022 Share Posted 31 August 2022 I think the biggest worry is how long this decline has gone on for. I know many dislike xG, but the stats last season suggested we were very lucky to finish 8th - and I think that passes the sniff test from watching us for the season too. Those poor stats were mostly without Fofana, but that is not the reality of the situation we find ourselves in. I hate watching this style of play to be honest. It's super tedious and seems to imagine that possession = control of the game, which I really don't think is true. Especially given how little we seem to do with the ball. However, if you sort out the defence, we do have a front line which find the net more often than not. I think that's the difference between where we are and where Brighton are to be honest - we have the better front line but they can also defend and as such are much more balanced. We're giving away two goals a game. Even with this insipid style of play, sort out the defence and we'll be nowhere near a relegation side. We'll be a dull watch, but that seems to have been the style we've adopted. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cityfanlee23 Posted 31 August 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 31 August 2022 15 minutes ago, Number 6 said: I think the biggest worry is how long this decline has gone on for. I know many dislike xG, but the stats last season suggested we were very lucky to finish 8th - and I think that passes the sniff test from watching us for the season too. Those poor stats were mostly without Fofana, but that is not the reality of the situation we find ourselves in. I hate watching this style of play to be honest. It's super tedious and seems to imagine that possession = control of the game, which I really don't think is true. Especially given how little we seem to do with the ball. However, if you sort out the defence, we do have a front line which find the net more often than not. I think that's the difference between where we are and where Brighton are to be honest - we have the better front line but they can also defend and as such are much more balanced. We're giving away two goals a game. Even with this insipid style of play, sort out the defence and we'll be nowhere near a relegation side. We'll be a dull watch, but that seems to have been the style we've adopted. Don’t say that, I got hammered for days for saying we were lucky to finish 8th lol. You can only beat what’s infront of you, but in any other premier league season of the last decade if we played how we did last season we would have been struggling to get close to top half, everyone was crap last year. Us coming 8th shows just how abysmal the league was last season. 5 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number 6 Posted 31 August 2022 Share Posted 31 August 2022 49 minutes ago, cityfanlee23 said: Don’t say that, I got hammered for days for saying we were lucky to finish 8th lol. You can only beat what’s infront of you, but in any other premier league season of the last decade if we played how we did last season we would have been struggling to get close to top half, everyone was crap last year. Us coming 8th shows just how abysmal the league was last season. Maybe lucky is the wrong word (I know I used it too), but I think 8th flattered us. I think a run of teams towards the end of the season who were on the beach certainly helped us. Plus that middle was squeezed and there was only a 4 point gap to 12th - the same as between us at 7th. I don't think we'd have ever been in trouble of going down but the numbers were there that we were not playing great for almost all of the season. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAPA LAZAROU Posted 31 August 2022 Share Posted 31 August 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, nnfox said: The owners have a lot of credit in the bank with the fans, I just don't see fans turning on them. New state-of-the-art training facility, stadium expansion and development pressing ahead - we are at the beginnings of a new era for the club, pushing to the next level, compared to where we have been for our whole history. In order to achieve that, some financial prudence is probably wise, so having a quiet transfer window or two is probably to be expected. The squad we have is easily good enough for at least mid-table security. If the fans turn on anyone, it will be on Brendan for not getting the best out of the players he has and playing boring football without attacking intent, setting up to not lose, rather than to win. That said, the fans reaction will be dictated by the performance rather than the result. If we lose but we've had a real go, then that's OK. It's when we're competitive for an hour and then change the tactics to defend what we've got if we're winning or drawing, or enter damage limitation mode if we're losing, inviting pressure for 30 minutes in either case, which we can't do. Prime Mourinho Chelsea we are not. He needs to quickly learn how to use 5 subs to change the shape of a game to our advantage. The longer he fails to do this, the more the fans will make the environment "unstable" which is not what he wants. Turd polishing at its finest. Quiet transfer window? which will end in panic buys if at all.Financial prudence? ah you mean BROKE, and mid-table security? Edited 31 August 2022 by PAPA LAZAROU 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozartfox Posted 31 August 2022 Share Posted 31 August 2022 Did take Fuchfana long to start having a dig at Rogers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted 31 August 2022 Share Posted 31 August 2022 27 minutes ago, mozartfox said: Did take Fuchfana long to start having a dig at Rogers. indicating Rodgers was shifting the blame to cover his own arse, seems plausible to me, source is dodgy too though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambert09 Posted 31 August 2022 Share Posted 31 August 2022 Can I get the bingo card with Brendan saying " there were signings we wanted to make to improve the club but the market is extremely difficult and we didnt have enough time" when asked why we didnt sign a winger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJB-fox Posted 31 August 2022 Share Posted 31 August 2022 7 hours ago, justfoxes said: Seems this Journo recons Villa will come knocking for Rodgers if they sack Gerrard !! 🤔 https://www.givemesport.com/88053794-aston-villa-will-look-at-fa-cup-winner-if-steven-gerrard-leaves-villa-park He’d probably do well there for the first 2-3 seasons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vazman Posted 31 August 2022 Share Posted 31 August 2022 6 hours ago, coolhandfox said: We will put him on garden leave, and replace him. Your obsessesed with the Gardening leave option Coolhand, you got a wild Veg patch that needs sorting? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxinsocks Posted 31 August 2022 Share Posted 31 August 2022 7 hours ago, volpeazzurro said: Perhaps meet halfway. They sack Gerrard and have Rodgers for free without paying compensation. Brilliant solution. I thought you meant a get together in tamworth 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 31 August 2022 Share Posted 31 August 2022 7 minutes ago, Vazman said: Your obsessesed with the Gardening leave option Coolhand, you got a wild Veg patch that needs sorting? Easy way to get someone new in without paying out. Not uncommon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vazman Posted 31 August 2022 Share Posted 31 August 2022 15 minutes ago, coolhandfox said: Easy way to get someone new in without paying out. Not uncommon. I know mate just adding a bit of humor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 31 August 2022 Share Posted 31 August 2022 4 minutes ago, Vazman said: I know mate just adding a bit of humor We need it at the moment 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrysalis Posted 31 August 2022 Share Posted 31 August 2022 Is he still here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickyblueeyes Posted 31 August 2022 Share Posted 31 August 2022 Imagine if we do go down. Brendan pulls it all season and we refuse to sack him because of the cost. Brendan finally leaves end of the year and the club on its knees calls the only man capable of getting rid of the shit and rebuilding the squad. The Third Coming….. I get the strategy now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4everfox Posted 31 August 2022 Share Posted 31 August 2022 It seems like Rodgers has fallen out with a lot of players over his tenure here, most of which were his signings. Fofana Soyuncu Vestergaard Choudhury Soumare Praet Perez Obviously barring Fofana and Choudhury, I reckon a new manager could get a tune out of the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudge Posted 1 September 2022 Share Posted 1 September 2022 Seems to me that a meeting in the Longshoot carvery between the Villa board and Khun Top is long overdue. They scratch his back and............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrysalis Posted 1 September 2022 Share Posted 1 September 2022 56 minutes ago, 4everfox said: It seems like Rodgers has fallen out with a lot of players over his tenure here, most of which were his signings. Fofana Soyuncu Vestergaard Choudhury Soumare Praet Perez Obviously barring Fofana and Choudhury, I reckon a new manager could get a tune out of the others. Has a manager ever fell out with so many players before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon the Hat Posted 1 September 2022 Share Posted 1 September 2022 5 minutes ago, Chrysalis said: Has a manager ever fell out with so many players before? Ours? probably not. Its all a bit latter day Mourinho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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