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J. James

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I've come to the conclusion that Top and the board are 100% behind Rodgers and will not sack him or even contemplate sacking him, the financial mis-management of our club is staggering and l believe there are things happening that we fans know nothing about and most probably never will.

We certainly will be relegated but Rodgers isn't going away no matter what we on FT say or do.

I genuinely fear for the future of our wonderful club. ☹️

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40 minutes ago, J. James said:

I've come to the conclusion that Top and the board are 100% behind Rodgers and will not sack him or even contemplate sacking him, the financial mis-management of our club is staggering and l believe there are things happening that we fans know nothing about and most probably never will.

We certainly will be relegated but Rodgers isn't going away no matter what we on FT say or do.

I genuinely fear for the future of our wonderful club. ☹️

Unfortunately I agree with you :( worrying times. 

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9 hours ago, Muzzy_Larsson said:

He needs to do the honourable thing and walk, he’s got enough money to last ten lifetimes already anyway.

 

It says a lot about him that given all his successes at both Leicester and Celtic that he’s left or leaving both clubs and pretty much the majority of the fans hate him. It’s pretty sad really.

Think it's very telling. I do believe in the wisdom of crowds and said as much for the Faes signing and the Reims fans being down about it was a good sign but the same applies for managers. I do think there was plenty of bitterness at the Celtic end but it was natural given the timing and I, and many others were guilty in ignoring the fact plenty weren't that bothered either. I don't think it ever got as toxic there as it has here but it's telling to me that he's just never popular anywhere. It makes me warm to the idea of a Bielsa for example where the fans absolutely loved him. 

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2 hours ago, J. James said:

I've come to the conclusion that Top and the board are 100% behind Rodgers and will not sack him or even contemplate sacking him, the financial mis-management of our club is staggering and l believe there are things happening that we fans know nothing about and most probably never will.

We certainly will be relegated but Rodgers isn't going away no matter what we on FT say or do.

I genuinely fear for the future of our wonderful club. ☹️

Na, he's getting sacked today. Top is already on the way to do it in person out of respect. 

 

 

 

 

BTW, I know none of this, it's just wishful thinking. 

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Can’t believe he still has a job , u can see the players are not playing for him , there appears to be no structure in the way we play , players look like they are scared to go forward , and when we do most couldn’t pass a ball to a team mate to save themselves. 

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If you look back at it, his early “success” here was borrowed from the previous regime. He inherited a good squad, and more importantly he inherited a team that had a reputation of playing good counter attacking football. When he came in, he added his possession based defensive football to our arsenal. It worked for a while as other teams were still worried about Vardy and our counter attacking football and so they tended to sit back and by doing so Rodgers could play his sideway/backward football without as much pressure. We dominated possession while we had the talent and the winning mentality still in the squad to break teams up.

 

Then his negativity ruined the players’ mindset overtime. They didn’t know what to do. They were confused and playing against their natural instincts. We complained a lot about square pegs through round holes. I saw the start of this from 24 or so months ago at a time when only a few fans saw it - you know who you are - but a majority were blindedsided by Rodgers’ sweet talk and call for “control” of the game. When we went for the win and lost in the end, Rodgers would complain about players being naive but in fact he was cracking their spirit and messing up their mindset. Players regressed. Soyuncu is a prime example - yes he was a bit out there but he was a good CB; but when everything you do is criticised, you end up being indecisive and unsure of yourself. No wonder Soyuncu is now deemed not good enough. Rodgers thinks he can improve players but except for those who can stand his bullshit they go backwards. After all of that, of course Rodgers would want new players to “refresh” the squad because he stuffed a lot of them up. Tielemans is another one - he was a top talent, but he has definitively become a lot more sideways and backwards in the last 18 months.

 

We got found out by other teams from about 24+ months ago. I can’t remember exactly but I posted about it at the time and I declared teams from there on would know how to play us. And they did. Just press us in our half and with Ndidi there especially we are stuffed. Rodgers has never to this day learnt his lesson, except maybe last weekend when Ndidi was finally dropped.

 

Anyway, the point is that the signs were there a long time ago and we are now seeing the fruits of his impact while he is deflecting.

 

 

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10 hours ago, Pliskin said:

The snobbery towards Dyche does need to be dropped. We’re in shit situation now, and the club are in severe danger of being relegated, which would be catastrophic for the club.

 

Brendan has damaged the image of the club too, by very cleverly shifting the blame into the club, no top manager will want to come within five feet of us until we can prove we’re stable. 
 

To the rest of the country we’re skint, so who would want to work with that. 
 

For me we need a grafter, even if it is for a short period. We can’t afford to piss about with an unknown because if it backfires we could be in a mess. 
 

The next move needs to be a necessary one, not sexy, but one that will give us the best chance of turning this mess around. 
 

Dyche may not be a sexy choice, he may not be people first choice, but he would take no shit, probably wouldn’t really give a toss about the budget, and would probably get us in some form of working order. 
 

We need someone to inject some belief and passion back into the team, I have great admiration for what he did at Burnley, he took a bunch of ordinary players as far as he could. 
 

We just need some stability until the end of the season to try and get the side settled, make ourselves harder to beat and be prepared to scrap. We’re in a dog fight now, and in this state we’re woefully unprepared for it. 

We're 6 games in. There's 32 to go. We're not in a dog fight, the next manager doesn't need to be some relegation fighting specialist. It just needs to be someone else. As soon as Rodgers is removed we'll start winning again. Even if it was a pragmatic one and not a sexy one there's still better managers than Dyce. 

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22 minutes ago, Tom12345 said:

If you look back at it, his early “success” here was borrowed from the previous regime. He inherited a good squad, and more importantly he inherited a team that had a reputation of playing good counter attacking football. When he came in, he added his possession based defensive football to our arsenal. It worked for a while as other teams were still worried about Vardy and our counter attacking football and so they tended to sit back and by doing so Rodgers could play his sideway/backward football without as much pressure. We dominated possession while we had the talent and the winning mentality still in the squad to break teams up.

 

Then his negativity ruined the players’ mindset overtime. They didn’t know what to do. They were confused and playing against their natural instincts. We complained a lot about square pegs through round holes. I saw the start of this from 24 or so months ago at a time when only a few fans saw it - you know who you are - but a majority were blindedsided by Rodgers’ sweet talk and call for “control” of the game. When we went for the win and lost in the end, Rodgers would complained about players being naive but in fact he was cracking their spirit and messing up their mindset. Players regressed. Soyuncu is a prime example - yes he was a bit out there but he was a good CB; but when everything you do is criticised, you end up being indecisive and unsure of yourself. No wonder Soyuncu is now deemed not good enough. Rodgers thinks he can improves players but except for those who can stand his bullshit they go backwards. After all of that, of course Rodgers want new players to “refresh” the squad because he stuffed a lot of them up. Tielemans is another one - he was a top talent, but he has definitively become a lot more sideways and backwards in the last 18 months.

 

We got found out by other teams from about 24+ months ago. I can’t remember exactly but I posted about it at the time and I declared teams from there on would know how to play us. And they did. Just press us in our half and with Ndidi there especially we are stuffed. Rodgers has never to this day learnt his lesson, except maybe last weekend when Ndidi was finally dropped.

 

Anyway, the point is that the signs were there a long time ago and we are now seeing the fruits of his impact while he is deflecting.

 

 

Spot on. I too smelled a rat around Christmas time of his first year. His changes for changes sake, his pontificating about system and philosophy, his use of different players out of position as if to show what a master tactician he was. It was all utter bullshit that was detectable quite early on, we had been warned after all. The majority, out of loyalty fell for it hook line and sinker and why wouldn't they, the media was fawning at his every move, some still do!

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34 minutes ago, ARTY_FOX said:

We're 6 games in. There's 32 to go. We're not in a dog fight, the next manager doesn't need to be some relegation fighting specialist. It just needs to be someone else. As soon as brendans removed we'll start winning again. Even if it was a pragmatic one and not a sexy one there's still better managers than Dyce. 


And luckily there are 10 teams within 6 points of us. A decent manager should be able make up 6 points on most of these from an available 96. 

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35 minutes ago, Tom12345 said:

If you look back at it, his early “success” here was borrowed from the previous regime. He inherited a good squad, and more importantly he inherited a team that had a reputation of playing good counter attacking football. When he came in, he added his possession based defensive football to our arsenal. It worked for a while as other teams were still worried about Vardy and our counter attacking football and so they tended to sit back and by doing so Rodgers could play his sideway/backward football without as much pressure. We dominated possession while we had the talent and the winning mentality still in the squad to break teams up.

 

Then his negativity ruined the players’ mindset overtime. They didn’t know what to do. They were confused and playing against their natural instincts. We complained a lot about square pegs through round holes. I saw the start of this from 24 or so months ago at a time when only a few fans saw it - you know who you are - but a majority were blindedsided by Rodgers’ sweet talk and call for “control” of the game. When we went for the win and lost in the end, Rodgers would complained about players being naive but in fact he was cracking their spirit and messing up their mindset. Players regressed. Soyuncu is a prime example - yes he was a bit out there but he was a good CB; but when everything you do is criticised, you end up being indecisive and unsure of yourself. No wonder Soyuncu is now deemed not good enough. Rodgers thinks he can improves players but except for those who can stand his bullshit they go backwards. After all of that, of course Rodgers want new players to “refresh” the squad because he stuffed a lot of them up. Tielemans is another one - he was a top talent, but he has definitively become a lot more sideways and backwards in the last 18 months.

 

We got found out by other teams from about 24+ months ago. I can’t remember exactly but I posted about it at the time and I declared teams from there on would know how to play us. And they did. Just press us in our half and with Ndidi there especially we are stuffed. Rodgers has never to this day learnt his lesson, except maybe last weekend when Ndidi was finally dropped.

 

Anyway, the point is that the signs were there a long time ago and we are now seeing the fruits of his impact while he is deflecting.

 

 

Tom, I was in agreement with you. I hadn't given it the thought you had as to WHY, but knew as an experienced football fan that Rodgers is far from what 'it says on the tin'. I was wary from the start and didn't want him.

 

Just thought he was streaky manager who profited from months of 'friendlies' in covid and a time of relative weakness in Man U, Arsenal and Spurs and transitions for clubs like Newcastle, Brighton etc. He stayed at Celtic as quite frankly the SPL is no competition . I forget the dates but the only challenge Rangers  were in decline for much of his time?

 

The FA Cup win , well every few years you get an underdog in the final, and then it's just a one off game and on the day we hit a long ranger and hung on. Wigan. And they even get relegated same season. Stoke. Palace.

 

Rodgers has been given far far far more time than he ever deserved. And now this situation has become a farce. I can't think of another instance where a managerial sacking has been called for and delayed this long. Its obviously about money.

 

If they really don't have the money put him on gardening leave and let an internal leicester man run the club temporarily whilst it is sorted out.

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8 minutes ago, Lcfc-1992 said:

When did it start to fall apart? I feel like it went downhill from when we were meant to be in the title race and Liverpool beat us 4-0 on Boxing Day 

The first cracks showed when we beat Everton & Kelechi scored in injury time. I think that was as far back as 2019. We've had a couple of good half seasons since.

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Just saw a clip of his post match interview with my morning tea this morning.

 

I nearly spat it out. He’s just undermining the confidence of our players by saying there’s not enough quality etc, and low and behold we see individual error after individual error. He’s playing the Mourinho role in a British accent, which I guess will help him avoid criticism in the media.

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1 minute ago, Brenfox said:

The first cracks showed when we beat Everton & Kelechi scored in injury time. I think that was as far back as 2019. We've had a couple of good half seasons since.

Just 5 games before the Liverpool one. There was some poor results after them games losing to Norwich, Burnley, Southampton.

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I can't belive Top will keep him longer than today. I beleive (hope) they'll be an announcement today. For me his selection yesterday was unforgivable and should have been the straw that broke the camels back. If he stays on, then I fear my respect for Top starts to decline. 

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