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Brendan Rodgers

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lexluther

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Brendan Rodgers is an interesting case. As both a Liverpool and Celtic supporter I've watched him closely for years. A key component of management is recruitment. This is a facet of management at which I think Rodgers is very poor at. At Liverpool he bought in Coutinho, Sturridge and Firmino. At Celtic his best buys were Dembele and Sinclair. Considering the amount of players and the money he spent at both clubs that is a miserable success rate. 

You could argue that he was successful at Liverpool and especially Celtic. However on closer inspection these 'successes are qualified'. His success at Liverpool was much helped by inheriting Suarez and Sterling. He failed to build a solid back line at Anfield and if he had we would have won the league in 2014. He was uber successful at Celtic but he had no viable competition. Rangers were in a pitiful state and were just getting back on their feet by the time he left. 

When he came to Celtic he stated if was a dream job and that he was a Celtic supporter growing up etc. Nothing wrong with that except the manner of leaving made those words sound so hollow. Someone in their dream job waits until the summer and makes a clean break with his standing with supporters still intact. During his time at Celtic he humiliated a legend of the club by implying that McGrain was desperate for a job at Parkhead. This implication has been shown to be patent nonsense. 

This brings me to his personality. He tries to come across all mannerly and nice but unfortunately he just comes across as fake as his teeth. He's not someone you'd like to have a drink with to chat football. I admire how successful he has made himself from genuinely humble beginnings. But he is chronically lacking in self awareness. 

Now moving onto Leicester City. Brendan is clearly a ruthless and driven operator. Leicester offered a route back to the PL and he took it double quick even leaving his 'dream job' during a season. In 2019 in signed Tielemans. Castagne and Fofana in 2020. Three truly good signings. He inherited Schmeichel, Soyuncu, Albrighton, Vardy, Maddison, Maguire, Evans, Ndidi, Iheanacho and Chilwell. That's an impressive group of players. Schmeichel, Chilwell and Maguire have moved on. Fofana bought and sold by Rodgers. I see the remaining group of players as being at least worthy of finishing somewhere between 8-10. 

At Celtic in the summer of 2018 he pulled the same I'm not being backed bullshit when he didn't get John McGinn. The reality was though even without McGinn he had comfortably the best squad in Scotland. He had signed so much shit I don't blame the Celtic board for not giving in to his every whim. We had also broken our transfer record to bring in Edouard that very summer. Again I go back to his lack of self awareness. Truly chronic. 

I would say if you asked Rodgers why is he not liked he would be genuinely bamboozled by the question. Celtic fans hate him and I sense from what I'm reading here that you guys can't see him leave the club faster enough which is fascinating considering he won the FA Cup with ye. But honestly when you drill down and properly analyse his time at clubs he just not a very good manager. To be honest I don't think Top did his research when hiring Rodgers. On the surface Rodger's record looks fantastic but as I say. 

I get managers have to exude confidence and steel like self belief but on the flip side self awareness and humility are such important human attributes. Curiously enough Neil Lennon also showed himself to be incapable of accepting responsibilities during his second spell at Celtic and also chronically lacking in self awareness. Yet Martin O'Neill of both Celtic and Leicester is a hero at both clubs and rightly so. 

The bottom line is Rodgers needs to go. He is wealthy enough to be humble enough to hold his hands up and say I'm not good enough for this job anymore. Yes he'll lose millions but it will be a start in trying to repair his reputation as a human being. 

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1 minute ago, Tielemans63 said:

Just to reiterate, if you read all my thousands of posts, I've claimed to be ITK only once in more than a decade on here, when I knew Wilf had signed before it was announced because my Dad sold him a car! It might be that I'm on the end of a wind up and will end up looking like a twat but I've received a message from a mate about someone he knows.

 

Basically, I started by just saying 'has he gone yet? as a throw away'. Mate responds. He works in the legal profession, obviously has friends in the legal profession. Negotiations been going on for a while apparently regarding severance. 

 

He might be winding me up but I'm just posting what he said.

Would be incredibly surprised if severance negotiations have reached the external firm as yet. Apart from the GC himself, negotiations around settlement would be secretive up and until a deal in principle is reached. There is actually no reason to get lawyers involved at this stage.
 

Might be true but the it’s unlikely to have been leaked this far that external lawyers are involved to know. Unless your mates, mate is the GC that is - I think he might be pulling your leg. 

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9 minutes ago, Chelmofox said:

yes yes - i hear you all. A guy who had a win % of 35% at Burnley is the best we can hope for. Bielsa isnt the messiah either.

So what win rate under the same conditions do you think Rodgers would achieve with his philosophy? No money for players, work with what you've got on a shoestring budget. 

No hiding place at Burnley for Brendan. 

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3 minutes ago, ARM1968 said:

At Burnley, yes. Holy cow, do people not get it?  He worked miracles there and did what he had to do. Do people really think he’d come here, out Vesty up front and just limp it up?

 

He is better than that and given a decent team you would likely see a different Dyche, but with the same underpinnings of organisation, teamwork, desire and fight. 
 

I don’t like Dyche and never have. However I like my team enough to put that aside for someone who could inject into this sorry shower of shite the things we need. 

So we are pinning our hopes on a manager coming in and playing a style of play that he has little to no experience with? That is arguably a bigger risk than asking him to come here and play the Burnley way with this squad.

 

I really must stop responding to every pro-Dyche post.

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1 hour ago, Lambert09 said:

i can imagine, we will get a few rejections before moving on to the obvious names, then will decide dyche is not fashionable enough and settle for rafa… who will probably just about keep us safe. 

 

considering how little he was backed at everton he had an almost impossible job as the fans wanted him to fail from the start. Had there not been the toxic feeling around him maybe he would have done better but i’m not sure. 

 

There’s certainly worse choices than him but he’s not the man to bring us to huge success either

...I would rather bring in a manager from the continent in the second tier to come in rather than Dyche, Benitez, Bielsa, or OGS!!!

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1 minute ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

Would be incredibly surprised if severance negotiations have reached the external firm as yet. Apart from the GC himself, negotiations around settlement would be secretive up and until a deal in principle is reached. There is actually no reason to get lawyers involved at this stage.
 

Might be true but the it’s unlikely to have been leaked this far that external lawyers are involved to know. Unless your mates, mate is the GC that is - I think he might be pulling your leg. 

You might well be right mate. He's one of my oldest mates but he is also a **** lol

 

As I say, not posting for attention or likes, more that I'm desperately hoping he actually does know something and it's true. He has worked with Premier League clubs and players in the past so I'm really hoping he does know someone who knows something.

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2 hours ago, RedSoxUK said:

 

Can't help with the public comments (though likely ego,) as for the selection decisions it's quite obvious he's trying to shure up the backline looking for the right combination as they're all, pretty awful it had to be said. 

 

His tinkering is a direct result of being as leaky as Severn Trent Water.

If he was trying to shore up the back line then he wouldn’t be playing Ward in goal. It’s absolutely clear that he’s not good enough and never was. if he was trying to shore up the back line he would be starting Castagne, he would’ve managed Soyuncu back to the player he was when he replaced and outshone Maguire. He would’ve managed the experienced international defenders he has at his disposal so they were continually improving. Instead under his leadership EVERY defensive player has regressed.  

 

 

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1 minute ago, sacreblueits442 said:

...I would rather bring in a manager from the continent in the second tier to come in rather than Dyche, Benitez, Bielsa, or OGS!!!

I think that puts us at greater risk of being in the relegation mix come the end of the season. Personal opinion though, as who knows. 

I just think these players need someone with good man management skills but also someone who knows the league and will give the players a kick up the arse and an injection of confidence. Dyche for a short-term is a good option for all that IMO. 

Looking abroad at an unknown may be more exciting, but comes with greater risks right now. They will also have to work on a shoe-string budget, whilst still making us competitive. Something Dyche is renowned for. Finishing 7th with that Burnley side was pretty impressive too. He is far from perfect, but still a good option right now. Staying in the Premier League is so important whilst we ride out these financial difficulties. 

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