Brendan Rodgers

[Finnegan]

1 hour ago, Fox92 said:

I have never rated Rodgers' subs throughout his time here. It's one thing I think he constantly gets wrong.

 

Hamza was doing well, as was Iheanacho. Two stupid subs, at stupid times, for me.

 

I'm sorry but this narrative that Hamza was doing well is starting to get a bit irritating. 

 

He was running around a lot. I know that's Foxestalk's biggest love but it was really unhelpful today in a two man midfield. He left Tielemans alone and isolated for large parts of the game, just chasing the ball around, often getting nowhere near it. 

 

He worked his socks off, he gave it his all and he can't really be held accountable too much beyond that because trying your best is all we can really demand. But he wasn't good enough today and was a part of why Palace were in so much control. 

 

He's just never where he should be. You can get away with it either in a 3 where the other two are holding shape or in a super low block where the rest of the team are always structured but in a game that's already stretched vertically he's a liability. 

 

Both of the first two substitutions Rodgers made today were probably the right calls on paper. He took a forward off for a midfielder to turn it in to a 3 man midfield and he took Hamza off for a player with more match fitness and, quite frankly, more quality to come in and play a proper holding role. 

 

Both of those things were the right thing to do it's just unfortunately the team was in the process of panicking and collapsing at the time, in large part because of some spectacularly poor work by the back four. 

 

Hamza wouldn't have stopped either goal, the full backs and wingers needed to do better shutting down the cross and the back four needed to do much better dealing with. Bertrand was largely responsible for both goals, he was as all over the fvcking place. If you want to blame Rodgers for anything it's that selection but beyond that he got today pretty much bang on on paper. 

 

It's the system he should have played and his subs were fine. There's times that, ultimately, no matter what a manager does his players just aren't up to scratch and that was us today. The performance was just largely poor from most of the team. Yes, Nacho was good in the first half and probably our Motm but he'd totally disappeared form the game in the second half and may as well have come off. 

Edited 3 October 2021 by Finnegan

[Vindaloo FOX]

Ok ok let's get serious.

 

BR deserves more time, under CR we looked like a team going down and rightly so he was sacked.

 

I think we are not looking like a team that will go down with BR but a team who will finish mid table.

 

BR has been unlucky this season, with injuries and the Youri contract still ongoing.

 

Just keep us up BR, that's all I ask from you lad.

Edited 3 October 2021 by Vindaloo FOX

[deep blue]

2 hours ago, Webbo said:

Who was the manager when we were looking at being champions league? Do you think that was just luck and then his incompetence ruined it at the end? 

 

Getting 5th is an achievement for this club. 

Apart from the top 4, which other teams had a better squad? If Rodgers was provided with the 5th strongest squad in the league, which he arguably was, then finishing 5th was par for the course.

[Pliskin]

22 minutes ago, Vindaloo FOX said:

Ok ok let's get serious.

 

BR deserves more time, under CR we looked like a team going down and rightly so he was sacked.

 

I think we are not looking like a team that will go down with BR but a team who will finish mid table.

 

BR has been unlucky this season, with injuries and the Youri contract still ongoing.

 

Just keep us up BR, that's all I ask from you lad.

The owners won’t be happy with that though, going from Europe to keeping us up? After spending £100m on a training ground and proposed new stadiums expansions?

 

our owners targets would have been. Pressure the top four and it’s quite clear that isn’t happening. 
 

Ar the end of the day the people who run this club are ruthless, of form does not improve, they will consider getting rid regardless of what is fans think, I don’t want him to go and we’re not quite there yet, but the worry is we’re losing to teams we absolutely should be beating if we want to finish in the top 6. And it simply isn’t good enough, and the longer it goes on he will be in trouble. 
 

Im still hopeful he will turn it around, but today was really a shambolic effort both on and off the pitch, it really isn’t looking very good for us at all. 

[Webbo]

15 minutes ago, deep blue said:

Apart from the top 4, which other teams had a better squad? If Rodgers was provided with the 5th strongest squad in the league, which he arguably was, then finishing 5th was par for the course.

It's that easy. 

[Buce]

It seems to me that there is a malaise throughout the whole squad; Youri, Wilf, Cags, Ricky P, Maddison, Castagne, Barnes are shadows of the players they were not so long ago. They look totally devoid of confidence and belief. Even when we went two-up today, in no way did they look like a side that expected to go on and win; the lack of belief was palpable with every mis-placed pass, every challenge lost. People are saying how shit the Southamton pair are but if we'd just signed Youri et al we'd be saying the same of them. That's how bad it is. And Rodgers looks like a man lost for ideas on how to change things. He looks as broken as the rest of them.

 

I'm wondering if the last two seasons late collapses has broken them mentally? I know we won the Cup but the league still had games to play, so instead of finishing the season on the high of a Cup win, we finished on a low for the second season running, and in the same hugely disappointing manner.

 

I think the owners will be watching the manner of our performances as closely as they are the results; it's one thing to be having results go against us but they'll want to see us competing at least. They are not seeing that at the moment, and I don't think they'll give Rodgers quite as much time as some of you suggest. Sure, there would be a financial cost to that but a drop in the ocean compared to relegation.

Relegation is not an option for them and if they reach the conclusion that it's even a possibility, I believe they'll pull the trigger.

[CrispinLA in Texas]

The new AussiGreek Celtic manager Ange Postecoglou seems to be doing wonders for them, really lifted the team spirit since he came in. I've read the players are playing great attacking football and he's really liked by them, he bought in new ideas that the players have taken in. Would really like him here when Brendan moves on

Edited 3 October 2021 by CrispinLA in Texas

[Webbo]

10 minutes ago, CrispinLA in Texas said:

The new AussiGreek Celtic manager Ange Postecoglou seems to be doing wonders for them, really lifted the team spirit since he came in. I've read the players are playing great attacking football and he's really liked by them, he bought in new ideas that the players have taken in. Would really like him here when Brendan moves on

Theyre 6th in a 2 team league. 

[Tielemans63]

10 minutes ago, CrispinLA in Texas said:

The new AussiGreek Celtic manager Ange Postecoglou seems to be doing wonders for them, really lifted the team spirit since he came in. I've read the players are playing great attacking football and he's really liked by them, he bought in new ideas that the players have taken in. Would really like him here when Brendan moves on

 6th in a two horse race is some going 

[Tielemans63]

1 minute ago, Webbo said:

Theyre 6th in a 2 team league. 

 

Great minds 

[Gazza M]

3 hours ago, Dusty said:

This is such a comical post, are you saying that Iheanacho would’ve backed up Bertrand and stopped that goal? 

No, I am saying it was an unnecessary disruption. Just let them carry on as they were. He was playing well and may well have grabbed us a third if the chance came. Just like Choudhury going off, it messed us about. Rather Rodgers sat on his subs a bit longer this time. 

[mod hero]

18 minutes ago, CrispinLA in Texas said:

The new AussiGreek Celtic manager Ange Postecoglou seems to be doing wonders for them, really lifted the team spirit since he came in. I've read the players are playing great attacking football and he's really liked by them, he bought in new ideas that the players have taken in. Would really like him here when Brendan moves on

You cannot be serious? Please explain..

[Corky]

9 minutes ago, Webbo said:

Theyre 6th in a 2 team league. 

"Doing wonders" in a league that the current manager, who isn't good enough for us, won comfortably three times in three years.

[CrispinLA in Texas]

It's the football that Ange Postecoglou is making Celtic play, attacking football with movement and pace, which insists in every match, by the way they won today, Furuhashi scored seems like a great buy

[Guest Chocolate Teapot]

Just now, CrispinLA in Texas said:

It's the football that Ange Postecoglou is making Celtic play, attacking football with movement and pace, which insists in every match, by the way they won today, Furuhashi scored seems like a great buy

Are you doing this on purpose?

[filbertway]

2 minutes ago, Corky said:

"Doing wonders" in a league that the current manager, who isn't good enough for us, won comfortably three times in three years.

Tbf it was a 1 horse race when he was in charge haha

Edited 3 October 2021 by filbertway

[Corky]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-10053929/Andriy-Shevchenko-targeting-coaching-role-UK-Celtic-high-alert.html

 

He's doing so well they are already thinking about replacing him.

[CrispinLA in Texas]

5 minutes ago, Chocolate Teapot said:

Are you doing this on purpose?

Just looking at other likely alternatives, really getting bored of Brendan's philosophy or lack of it, he seems clueless on what to do or change things around when we are playing dire football

Edited 3 October 2021 by CrispinLA in Texas

[adam95581]

I’m not even gonna engage in this Brendan out discussion as I personally think it’s nonsense at this stage. I accept that we have had a number of spells where the football hasn’t been great and we’ve managed to get by (e.g. back end of both of the previous seasons). Throughout that time we had various injuries to key players which must have contributed. 
 

What is worrying me now though is that Rodgers doesn’t seem to know his best 11 or shape. We need to come back after the international break with a clear view of how we want to play, what formation / setup and (injuries permitting) what our starting 11 should be. He seems to be tinkering every game and it can’t be good for getting us into a rhythm. 

[winteriscoming]

I see similarities to how Wolves did with Nuno in charge. Correct me if I’m wrong but they finished 7th twice and then last season finished 13th or 14th. I see us finishing mid table. Some on here calling for him to go and genuinely not suggesting anyone better or realistic. Conte would never come here and Potter isn’t the answer. Rodgers deserves more time. 

[coolhandfox]

Get Evan, Fofana and Justin fit we are a different side. 

 

 

[Guest Chocolate Teapot]

7 minutes ago, adam95581 said:

I’m not even gonna engage in this Brendan out discussion as I personally think it’s nonsense at this stage. I accept that we have had a number of spells where the football hasn’t been great and we’ve managed to get by (e.g. back end of both of the previous seasons). Throughout that time we had various injuries to key players which must have contributed. 
 

What is worrying me now though is that Rodgers doesn’t seem to know his best 11 or shape. We need to come back after the international break with a clear view of how we want to play, what formation / setup and (injuries permitting) what our starting 11 should be. He seems to be tinkering every game and it can’t be good for getting us into a rhythm. 

Good post. The more I hear him speak the less I'm reassured. The only answer is Jonny Evans apparently.

 

He must be able to get a tune out of vestergaard and soyuncu. Vestergaard can play, just not in the way we're playing at the moment.

[Blue and white]

7 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

Get Evan, Fofana and Justin fit we are a different side. 

I like to think it's down to that too, but one thing that hasn't been mentioned is how many penalties we got the last few seasons through direct running, committing defenders by turning them the other way. Other than the Charity Shield, we haven't had a single penalty this season or even any real shouts that I can remember. We are a different team to the one which was hovering around the top 4 even though we've not sold anyone.

[trabuch]

I'm massively fvcked off. When Brendan started I thought he was a god. Now I think he's a strange stubborn little man with dodgy false teeth. Just win a few matches, get the players playing, and I will deify him again. (I'm very fickle - it's part of the joy of football for me. I can be incredible fickle about parts of the team whilst being totally loyal. It's a funny old game)

Edited 3 October 2021 by trabuch

[Guest Col city fan]

It’s a good job Rodgers has a lot of credit in the bank with LCFC

If he’d joined the club at the start of this season as a relative unknown, given the signings he made in the summer and how we are playing, I think most of us, being honest, would be showing him the door.