Popular Post Jobyfox Posted 3 October 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 3 October 2022 I was Brendan "in" a lot longer than most, but have been on the side of the "outs" since the Southampton game this season. That was the second home game in a row where we failed to beat a very average side after leading the game. It convinced me change was needed. We're too easy to play through and have a weak mentality. The kind of collective change that we need is usually only made possible by a change in manager and approach. It's not about individual players, as the team as a unit has been very poor this season. A great performance tonight and Rodgers deserves to enjoy it and then see whether he can repeat it on Saturday. My instinct is that he can't and the worrying signs were still there. I'd happily be proven wrong and hope he makes a success of it - as a successful manager would mean a successful club. He's still standing on the precipice right now for me though. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 3 October 2022 Share Posted 3 October 2022 3 minutes ago, Jobyfox said: I was Brendan "in" a lot longer than most, but have been on the side of the "outs" since the Southampton game this season. That was the second home game in a row where we failed to beat a very average side after leading the game. It convinced me change was needed. We're too easy to play through and have a weak mentality. The kind of collective change that we need is usually only made possible by a change in manager and approach. It's not about individual players, as the team as a unit has been very poor this season. A great performance tonight and Rodgers deserves to enjoy it and then see whether he can repeat it on Saturday. My instinct is that he can't and the worrying signs were still there. I'd happily be proven wrong and hope he makes a success of it - as a successful manager would mean a successful club. He's still standing on the precipice right now for me though. Can’t disagree with much of this forest were poor and yet created as many decent opportunities as we did. The dreaded Xg was level. we would likely be punished by a team who had a better forward better intensity of play bit still disjointed defensively infront of the back four, especially on transition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudio Fannieri Posted 4 October 2022 Share Posted 4 October 2022 In the Percy article, he referenced that the performance and crowd reaction would be taken into consideration, so that is the reason Brendan hot-footed it down the tunnel at the end, after such a resounding score line, had he received a negative reaction it would have been very clear to Top the view of the supporters. He still seems to have the support of certain players so not sure if his race is still fully run as yet, but as others have said, this result will mean very little if we don’t follow this up with a decent run of results from this group of very winnable fixtures. Can he turn this around, I really don’t know, there has been a lot said over recent months by Rodgers, very negative things about the club, squad, board and even the supporters and I am not sure whether that is repairable. Whilst he spoke well about Madders and the England situation, his comments about the summer and season so far were still a little whiny and.negative, mentioning the horrific summer. Why not just keep it upbeat and positive something like “we have had a poor start but this is hopefully the kick start to the season, we cannot change what has gone but we can build on this performance and use as a springboard for the rest of the season” The most important question was whether the players performance was for the fans and owner or genuinely fighting to keep their Manager in his job, guess we will see on Saturday. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wasyls Pec Deck Posted 4 October 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 4 October 2022 It is puzzling after all the things that have gone on - a performance like that does clearly show the players are playing for him. I do think the set piece coach seems to be paying off. Last night we looked much more organised in both boxes and you sensed we knew what we were doing. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 4 October 2022 Author Share Posted 4 October 2022 Brilliant yesterday, back to how we should be playing, but need to keep it up now. Our games this month, aside from Man City, are all winnable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NasPb Posted 4 October 2022 Share Posted 4 October 2022 One thing i enjoyed was him actually showing human passion.. Sometimes i forget he's human. He acts like a bloody robot. COYF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazza M Posted 4 October 2022 Share Posted 4 October 2022 38 minutes ago, Wasyls Pec Deck said: It is puzzling after all the things that have gone on - a performance like that does clearly show the players are playing for him. I do think the set piece coach seems to be paying off. Last night we looked much more organised in both boxes and you sensed we knew what we were doing. Yes I felt that was the case too. Maybe that appointment is paying off. I don't think that has anything to do with Rodgers input as clear the usual team didn't know how to sort it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerblod Posted 4 October 2022 Share Posted 4 October 2022 The cameras were covering Top's reaction to a couple of the goals. He appeared enthused. We were all enthused but that shouldn't close our eyes to the fundamental issue that one player is providing the impetus to establish a toehold in each game that comes along - although several others complemented his work. Overall confidence is still paper thin and I suspect that the next few games will test how resilient we are to bigger challenges than Forest. They had two v.good chances go begging. Had we not established a strong lead early on then we might have been back in the mire this morning. Rodgers has had his temporary stay of execution. My fear is that Top lacks the clarity of vision and decisiveness to dismiss him if it becomes obvious that this result is a one off. His subs last night were not made chasing the game or trying to break a deadlock. However, there is still the matter of the team retaining its pivotal players. Should Maddison go then its difficult to envisage the individuals who can take control of a game in his place. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxxed Posted 4 October 2022 Share Posted 4 October 2022 He’s able to beat Championship sides. We saw it last season and we saw it yesterday. I’d prefer to cut our losses and start with a new manager. Let’s see what Saturday holds then 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simoken Posted 4 October 2022 Share Posted 4 October 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, Jobyfox said: I was Brendan "in" a lot longer than most, but have been on the side of the "outs" since the Southampton game this season. That was the second home game in a row where we failed to beat a very average side after leading the game. It convinced me change was needed. We're too easy to play through and have a weak mentality. The kind of collective change that we need is usually only made possible by a change in manager and approach. It's not about individual players, as the team as a unit has been very poor this season. A great performance tonight and Rodgers deserves to enjoy it and then see whether he can repeat it on Saturday. My instinct is that he can't and the worrying signs were still there. I'd happily be proven wrong and hope he makes a success of it - as a successful manager would mean a successful club. He's still standing on the precipice right now for me though. Think I’ve been the only 100% up the Rodger’s more than anyone, I deserve a medal or raise. Edited 4 October 2022 by Simoken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daggers Posted 4 October 2022 Share Posted 4 October 2022 7 hours ago, elvisfmcfly said: Not the place for you to air your dirty laundry. Surely that would ensure there’s no dirty laundry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FT Goober Posted 4 October 2022 Share Posted 4 October 2022 A win, great - but it was against a piss-poor Forest side who never really presented a test for our flaky defence. Still a no from me as far as Rodgers is concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damolcfc Posted 4 October 2022 Share Posted 4 October 2022 (edited) Personally I think he needs a new contract..... 😏 Edited 4 October 2022 by damolcfc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmer Posted 4 October 2022 Share Posted 4 October 2022 24 minutes ago, gerblod said: The cameras were covering Top's reaction to a couple of the goals. He appeared enthused. We were all enthused but that shouldn't close our eyes to the fundamental issue that one player is providing the impetus to establish a toehold in each game that comes along - although several others complemented his work. Overall confidence is still paper thin and I suspect that the next few games will test how resilient we are to bigger challenges than Forest. They had two v.good chances go begging. Had we not established a strong lead early on then we might have been back in the mire this morning. Rodgers has had his temporary stay of execution. My fear is that Top lacks the clarity of vision and decisiveness to dismiss him if it becomes obvious that this result is a one off. His subs last night were not made chasing the game or trying to break a deadlock. However, there is still the matter of the team retaining its pivotal players. Should Maddison go then its difficult to envisage the individuals who can take control of a game in his place. Top looked pleased...Rudkin on the other hand had a face like a smacked arse, looked like he was disappointed with the goals/win which ultimately keeps Rodgers in a job for longer! *all speculation of course, but that's how it looked! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grebfromgrebland Posted 4 October 2022 Share Posted 4 October 2022 Come on he's earned the right to another game. Forest were awful though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmer Posted 4 October 2022 Share Posted 4 October 2022 We definitely defended far better as a whole team but Forest were dog muck. hoping we can kick on from here. Another win at the weekend needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionator Posted 4 October 2022 Share Posted 4 October 2022 39 minutes ago, gerblod said: The cameras were covering Top's reaction to a couple of the goals. He appeared enthused. We were all enthused but that shouldn't close our eyes to the fundamental issue that one player is providing the impetus to establish a toehold in each game that comes along - although several others complemented his work. Overall confidence is still paper thin and I suspect that the next few games will test how resilient we are to bigger challenges than Forest. They had two v.good chances go begging. Had we not established a strong lead early on then we might have been back in the mire this morning. Rodgers has had his temporary stay of execution. My fear is that Top lacks the clarity of vision and decisiveness to dismiss him if it becomes obvious that this result is a one off. His subs last night were not made chasing the game or trying to break a deadlock. However, there is still the matter of the team retaining its pivotal players. Should Maddison go then its difficult to envisage the individuals who can take control of a game in his place. How many times have we said that about different players though? Mahrez? Tielemans (when at his best)? Someone else always steps up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 4 October 2022 Author Share Posted 4 October 2022 36 minutes ago, Foxxed said: He’s able to beat Championship sides. We saw it last season and we saw it yesterday. I’d prefer to cut our losses and start with a new manager. Let’s see what Saturday holds then Not in the manner we saw it last night though. Last night was probably our best performance in a year. I agree lets see what Saturday holds, as Forest are/were poor, but can't take anything away from last night as we played quick faster football and looked really up for it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majaco Posted 4 October 2022 Share Posted 4 October 2022 I fear we will be ripped apart again soon. There is a need for a fresh managerial eye. Carragher did a piece of our defending and the space we allow other teams. It's basic stuff. I don't like Carragher but he had a point and he didn't spit once during that particular piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretPro Posted 4 October 2022 Share Posted 4 October 2022 Can't judge anything on last nights game. That Forest performance was quite possibly the worst I've ever seen in the PL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerblod Posted 4 October 2022 Share Posted 4 October 2022 2 hours ago, Wasyls Pec Deck said: I do think the set piece coach seems to be paying off. Last night we looked much more organised in both boxes and you sensed we knew what we were doing. Faes is making a hell of a difference. He's focused, aggressive, mobile, decisive and appears relaxed. In short, he's taken control of his rôle in the team. Whether Rodgers will eat away at his confidence is the question. Söyüncü was also all those things at one point. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerblod Posted 4 October 2022 Share Posted 4 October 2022 1 hour ago, jimmer said: Top looked pleased...Rudkin on the other hand had a face like a smacked arse, looked like he was disappointed with the goals/win which ultimately keeps Rodgers in a job for longer! *all speculation of course, but that's how it looked! Didn't break a grin did he. Absolutely stone faced. He knows that this was no real test. Down to Madder's brilliance and Faes's confidence and ability. Had we acted two seasons ago to nab someone like Faes, instead of ignoring central defence then we might not have been in this situation. I think they won because they established a strong early lead and were able to allow themselves to flow. When you're four up it's not really important what the manager does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fox_up_north Posted 4 October 2022 Share Posted 4 October 2022 He probably keeps his job to the world cup on that performance, but... - it was against a rubbish Forest side - he probably knew it was the one game to win - if he doesn't get us out of the bottom 3 by the world cup, then he absolutely must go 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelmofox Posted 4 October 2022 Share Posted 4 October 2022 If we are being honest, if that was Dyche’s or Franks first game we would be jumping with joy saying corner turned and it’s a great new manager bounce. For now, it means that Brendan definitely gets to at least the World Cup. Got to exploit these next fixtures, and a win against Bournemouth ‘could’ get us out of the bottom 3 ( assuming Man City and Chelsea spank Southampton and Wolves). Assuming we do ok next few games, be interesting to know what happens next. Jannick and Cags don’t make squads anymore, so do we clear out to find Feas v2. Evans worries me. And does Brendan get his winger? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Fox Posted 4 October 2022 Share Posted 4 October 2022 That’s more like it, but I won’t be convinced until we produce a winning run. We have been underperforming for a while. We definitely have the players to finish in the Top 7 or better. When we are on song we are a joy to watch. That performance was much better, I don’t expect us to win every week but the desire and aggression on and off the ball was there for the first time in a while. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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