Manley Farrington-Brown Posted 7 October 2022 Share Posted 7 October 2022 1 minute ago, StanSP said: Hold up, who said anything about forgetting that?! I don't want him to stay just because we beat Forest. But I'm also sensible and sane enough not to jump on his every word since that game. Some people's hatred for him goes beyond football. And therefore they can't enjoy the win against Forest in isolation because the hate for Rodgers is superior to their love of beating our rivals... 'Sensible and sane?' On here? Lol. Surely you know that if you don't believe that Rodgers is worse than Hitler, scheming to destroy the club because of his massive ego, and must be sacked immediately (or preferably hanged from a lamp post outside the club shop) then you clearly think he's a genius coach and a manager beyond compare, and must be given a lifetime contract immediately. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazza M Posted 7 October 2022 Share Posted 7 October 2022 I think he will jump ship when the opportunity arrives. I think he is looking at these games as much as a chance to get respect back for his own career compared to getting us back in to mid table. If it works and we get back on track I wouldn't complain if he took another job. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelmofox Posted 7 October 2022 Share Posted 7 October 2022 He's a bellend who comes out with sh*t. I don't see the sense in getting annoyed by it anymore. My bother is the same, and you know what you are going to get each time. Its not worth the energy getting upset about it. He's still an out for me, but logic indicates unless we start getting trounced by Bournemouth, Palace etc he's here for a while. Top has faith in him and will hold firm. Need to get behind the team and not get annoyed with Brendanisms. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARM1968 Posted 7 October 2022 Share Posted 7 October 2022 25 minutes ago, Manley Farrington-Brown said: 'Sensible and sane?' On here? Lol. Surely you know that if you don't believe that Rodgers is worse than Hitler, scheming to destroy the club because of his massive ego, and must be sacked immediately (or preferably hanged from a lamp post outside the club shop) then you clearly think he's a genius coach and a manager beyond compare, and must be given a lifetime contract immediately. This is accurate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taupe Posted 7 October 2022 Share Posted 7 October 2022 33 minutes ago, SecretPro said: Football fans in general are fecking weird And I trust that you include yourself in that statement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretPro Posted 7 October 2022 Share Posted 7 October 2022 12 minutes ago, taupe said: And I trust that you include yourself in that statement Of course! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taupe Posted 7 October 2022 Share Posted 7 October 2022 Perso, the "vitriol" toward Rodgers doesn't upset me. Though, tbh, being a bloke of somewhat shorter stature, I do find the references to his size a little 'triggering' And I'm about as sure as I can be that it'd water off the proverbial duck's back to Rodgers himself. He's certainly confident and thick skinned enough for it not to even concern him. No, the personal insults (whilst I'd prefer they didn't happen) are to my mind just a show of passion, frustration, concern, whatever. I find invariably that people who are quick to the boil are just as quick to forgive and forget. If the results start happening, the hot water will cool and we'll all be one big happy family again (that's my pitch for the Disney movie anyway) I'm not a fan of Rodgers' tactics (too high risk for me) and I get the impression he's not someone I could call a friend but neither of those things matter if he gets us winning and playing decent football. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taupe Posted 7 October 2022 Share Posted 7 October 2022 48 minutes ago, Manley Farrington-Brown said: Surely you know that if you don't believe that Rodgers is worse than Hitler, Took longer than I'd have thought but we got there. Godwin's law has been demonstrated 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKLFox Posted 7 October 2022 Share Posted 7 October 2022 Another 2 pages of fec all, We all get it you don't like the man is this thread just staying open to create pages on every single word he utters now? He's asked questions he answers them, i watched the interview & didn't notice him just stand up & say out the blue "...yeah but no but they owe me anyways cos i turned 2 other jobs down to stay here..." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxUK Posted 7 October 2022 Share Posted 7 October 2022 11 hours ago, winteriscoming said: We bottled 2 seasons when we were 10+ points clear of 5th with 4 or 5 games to go. Liverpool were 2 or 3 nil up at palace going into the second half and ended up drawing when the win was there. I know it doesn’t suit the majority of the narrative but Rodgers bottles it when the going gets tough. If this was a foreign manager the media would be heavily criticising him. Swansea Play Off Final Leicester FA Cup Leicester Community Shield All those cup finals in Scotland He bottles it when it suits the narrative it seems... We drew and lost games, there was no bottle, we just weren't good enough come the end. Get the idea that we're some sort of destined Top 4 side out of your head, most of those players are still here, clearly we over exceeded expectations. It's not just a mainstream media Rodgers love in, we literally have been outsiders and disruptors in a big boys market for some time. Those last 2 games were against Chelsea and Spurs. The year before it was Spurs and Man U. It's fixtures over form, it's not that hard to work out. You are where you finish. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vazman Posted 7 October 2022 Share Posted 7 October 2022 1 hour ago, Manley Farrington-Brown said: 'Sensible and sane?' On here? Lol. Surely you know that if you don't believe that Rodgers is worse than Hitler, scheming to destroy the club because of his massive ego, and must be sacked immediately (or preferably hanged from a lamp post outside the club shop) then you clearly think he's a genius coach and a manager beyond compare, and must be given a lifetime contract immediately. No I'm fairly certain most posters dont think that, barring a couple. As I stated before I couldn't give a sh"%e what he says, just get on with winning, putting in a decent performance, and if we lose / draw then so be it, but if your not doing that then go, he hasn't been doing that consistently, so in alot of people's minds he should go, most think he ain't up to it and some stuff he does say, is all self preservation for him. Steve Coopers post match interview Monday, was all about the team, and Club, he even stated he loved the Club, it's all you need to hear if your a Florist Fan, to me the difference between old Brendan and a manager who actually has the heart of the club and players on his mind. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ric Flair Posted 7 October 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 7 October 2022 We could win the next 4 games and still be way off the average points per game we've got under Rodgers across the previous 3.5 seasons he's been here. That just shows how bad we have dropped off under him. Nothing has changed as far as I'm concerned, anything less than 12 points from the next 4 is unacceptable given how he instigated this demise in the first 7 games. There's no margin for error which in itself is unrealistic so for that reason its clear there's little he can do here to turn this around. I also ask the question why would we even want him to? We're not going to challenge the top 6 again under him and he's paid probably double what we will pay another manager as we attempt to cut costs so why let this play out? The longer he is here costs us more. Take the in year hit and save in the long run on a manager who has lost effectiveness, has no track record of rebuilding a side successfully and seems unable to truly put to one side the frustrations of the financial restrictions he's under here. Thanks for the memories Brendan, he's overall been a great appointment for us but far better managers than him have gone their seperate ways under similar circumstances now. Shake hands and bugger off. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manley Farrington-Brown Posted 7 October 2022 Share Posted 7 October 2022 3 hours ago, taupe said: Took longer than I'd have thought but we got there. Godwin's law has been demonstrated I don't believe it has. Wouldn't that require a direct Hitler comparison/analogy, rather than a suggestion (itself exaggerated for comic effect) that some people might make such a comparison in their own heads? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manley Farrington-Brown Posted 7 October 2022 Share Posted 7 October 2022 1 hour ago, Ric Flair said: We could win the next 4 games and still be way off the average points per game we've got under Rodgers across the previous 3.5 seasons he's been here. That just shows how bad we have dropped off under him. Or, to play devil's advocate, how well we did across the previous 3.5 seasons...! 😉 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clever Fox Posted 7 October 2022 Share Posted 7 October 2022 The difficulty I have is he shows no allegiance to the Club or Fans . He has no passion for the game like Pearson, and O'Neill. It's just a job to him and he'd be off when the next offer comes in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manley Farrington-Brown Posted 7 October 2022 Share Posted 7 October 2022 7 minutes ago, Clever Fox said: The difficulty I have is he shows no allegiance to the Club or Fans . He has no passion for the game like Pearson, and O'Neill. It's just a job to him and he'd be off when the next offer comes in. Yep. Say what you will about Martin O'Neill, but he was certainly ferociously loyal to Leicester, and not at all the type to bugger off as soon as he got a better offer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 7 October 2022 Share Posted 7 October 2022 37 minutes ago, Manley Farrington-Brown said: Or, to play devil's advocate, how well we did across the previous 3.5 seasons...! 😉 Let's say 8-9th is par for the course with this squad, it was under Puel who was dog mess and Rodgers in a disappointing season last season. Average 8-9th position is around 50-55 points. We need 4 more wins on the spin to get to the lower part of that average and then maintain it, we are somewhat off that and well in to gross underperformance territory, classic for teams that need new ideas from a new manager and/or new players. Minimum 12 points out of the next 4 otherwise its going to be a season long battle to pull away from relegation. 5 wins on the spin goes a long way to righting the wrongs of our record breaking 6 games prior to Monday, I hope we can do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_77 Posted 7 October 2022 Share Posted 7 October 2022 9 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: Let's say 8-9th is par for the course with this squad, it was under Puel who was dog mess and Rodgers in a disappointing season last season. Average 8-9th position is around 50-55 points. We need 4 more wins on the spin to get to the lower part of that average and then maintain it, we are somewhat off that and well in to gross underperformance territory, classic for teams that need new ideas from a new manager and/or new players. Minimum 12 points out of the next 4 otherwise its going to be a season long battle to pull away from relegation. 5 wins on the spin goes a long way to righting the wrongs of our record breaking 6 games prior to Monday, I hope we can do it. We’re not winning five in a row, Ric, and there’s no way anyone on the board is expecting him to do that over the next month. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKLFox Posted 7 October 2022 Share Posted 7 October 2022 18 minutes ago, Clever Fox said: The difficulty I have is he shows no allegiance to the Club or Fans . He has no passion for the game like Pearson, and O'Neill. It's just a job to him and he'd be off when the next offer comes in. he doesn't do flick flacks down the sideline = 0 passion for football omfd How should he show allegiance? he just mentioned 2 other offers he turned down to stay at the club but was pelted down for saying it. It's a job for anyone of those players also & when the times right.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filbertway Posted 7 October 2022 Share Posted 7 October 2022 31 minutes ago, Clever Fox said: The difficulty I have is he shows no allegiance to the Club or Fans . He has no passion for the game like Pearson, and O'Neill. It's just a job to him and he'd be off when the next offer comes in. He showed his allegiance to the club by taking a massive pay rise, what more do you want? :p 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 7 October 2022 Share Posted 7 October 2022 9 minutes ago, filbertway said: He showed his allegiance to the club by taking a massive pay rise, what more do you want? :p So if you got offered a new job, and your employers offered you double your money to stay, you wouldn't take it? The only real loyalty in football is from fans and that can be fickle when a team is losing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bourbon Fox Posted 7 October 2022 Share Posted 7 October 2022 5 hours ago, SecretPro said: To be fair I don't get how a win over Forest means we suddenly forget about the last 18 months of utter dross (but judging by the latest Rodgers Out poll, that seems to be the case for many). Very weird. We beat a shockingly bad team who put in one of the worst performances in the history of the Premier League. It meant nothing in the long run. I'll start believing in Rodgers again when he wins the next 4 in a row. I'm with you. A few Forest mates have said that they were expecting some digs from me this week. I've said I'll open my mouth when I'm convinced we're not f****d - a home win against that Forest side has done very little to convince me we've turned a corner and everything's alright. In the context of the last calendar year, it will take a good run of games taking points and showing sustained, significant improvement before I'm ready to think less critically of Rodgers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bourbon Fox Posted 7 October 2022 Share Posted 7 October 2022 22 minutes ago, BKLFox said: How should he show allegiance? • Not criticising the board, as he has done by implication in interviews • Not singling out individuals for confidence-destroying public criticism in order to cover himself • By speaking positively about the club, its ambitions, the fans • Not alluding to being able to leave or the possibility of 'going to war' with the board Showing allegiance is about publicly identifying with and supporting the club, rather than pointing to it as being the root cause of poor results on the pitch. Rodgers shows his lack of allegiance by appearing to want to push a narrative of himself being held back by the structure and staff of the club. It presents him as independent of the club rather than embracing it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filbertway Posted 7 October 2022 Share Posted 7 October 2022 7 minutes ago, coolhandfox said: So if you got offered a new job, and your employers offered you double your money to stay, you wouldn't take it? The only real loyalty in football is from fans and that can be fickle when a team is losing. I would not bragging to the media about my loyalty if I did accept it. Whether I'd take it or not would depend on if I want to work for the other company and what they're offering Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bourbon Fox Posted 7 October 2022 Share Posted 7 October 2022 3 minutes ago, filbertway said: I would not bragging to the media about my loyalty if I did accept it. Whether I'd take it or not would depend on if I want to work for the other company and what they're offering I wouldn't take it and then slag the company off for not investing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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