Brendan Rodgers

[Tielemans63]

Chatting to my brother in law this morning (Liverpool fan) about Rodgers and he can't stand him. He was saying that when Brendan Rodgers was at Liverpool he was given too much power and they'd lost their identity by the end of his tenure and I thought while we were talking that's exactly what's happened here - we have no real identity anymore.

 

I used to love him but he can't leave quickly enough for me now, the thought of him overseeing a squad overhaul is quite frightening.

[foxile5]

1 hour ago, FosseSpark said:

The list of failures over the past 2 years has just become too big to handle for Rodgers.

- Vestergaard and Bertrand signings clogging up squad and wage bill. Catastrophic error.

-Ostracizing of Soyuncu, Mendy when they are really needed.

- Inability to coach defence until a specialist came in.

- Appointment of Evans as captain when he has failed to play regularly for 2yrs.

- Albrighton as vice captain when he had no intention of playing him. 

- Reliance on Tielemans when he has no intention to stay and has barely been over half way in months.

- Taking Iheanacho from a 20 goal striker to barely in the squad with no explanation.

- Leaving Perez and Praet entirely out of squads and then putting them in to important games with no match sharpness.

- using Thomas, then describing our LBs (just him) as not good enough all while ignoring we could play Castagne left back and Amartey, Albrighton or someone else right back.

- Baffling articulation of injuries so that no one ever knows whats going on.

- erosion of core lcfc traits. Pace, Power, and defensive organisation to resemble a sort of quasi late wenger era arsenal with no spine, spirit or plan b.

- clear fall out in close season, but not enough courage to leave. 

- bizarre 'whispering bollocks' pre and post match approach to press conferences, totally uninspiring and not attractive to prospective players.

- describing our issue as stature and physicality and then not doing anyything about it. 

 

Well past time to go.

 

You forgot the endless and obvious lying.

[Tielemans63]

1 hour ago, FosseSpark said:

The list of failures over the past 2 years has just become too big to handle for Rodgers.

- Vestergaard and Bertrand signings clogging up squad and wage bill. Catastrophic error.

-Ostracizing of Soyuncu, Mendy when they are really needed.

- Inability to coach defence until a specialist came in.

- Appointment of Evans as captain when he has failed to play regularly for 2yrs.

- Albrighton as vice captain when he had no intention of playing him. 

- Reliance on Tielemans when he has no intention to stay and has barely been over half way in months.

- Taking Iheanacho from a 20 goal striker to barely in the squad with no explanation.

- Leaving Perez and Praet entirely out of squads and then putting them in to important games with no match sharpness.

- using Thomas, then describing our LBs (just him) as not good enough all while ignoring we could play Castagne left back and Amartey, Albrighton or someone else right back.

- Baffling articulation of injuries so that no one ever knows whats going on.

- erosion of core lcfc traits. Pace, Power, and defensive organisation to resemble a sort of quasi late wenger era arsenal with no spine, spirit or plan b.

- clear fall out in close season, but not enough courage to leave. 

- bizarre 'whispering bollocks' pre and post match approach to press conferences, totally uninspiring and not attractive to prospective players.

- describing our issue as stature and physicality and then not doing anyything about it. 

 

Well past time to go.

 

Couldn't agree more. It's mad that he's not been sacked when you look at it holistically. The last 12-18 months have been disastrous and it will take some effort to fix the various problems that we now have.

[tetly]

If we get hammered tonight he should get the sack. We are in need of fresh ideas coaching and the mentality needs to change. 

[cropstonfox]

2 hours ago, FosseSpark said:

The list of failures over the past 2 years has just become too big to handle for Rodgers.

- Vestergaard and Bertrand signings clogging up squad and wage bill. Catastrophic error.

-Ostracizing of Soyuncu, Mendy when they are really needed.

- Inability to coach defence until a specialist came in.

- Appointment of Evans as captain when he has failed to play regularly for 2yrs.

- Albrighton as vice captain when he had no intention of playing him. 

- Reliance on Tielemans when he has no intention to stay and has barely been over half way in months.

- Taking Iheanacho from a 20 goal striker to barely in the squad with no explanation.

- Leaving Perez and Praet entirely out of squads and then putting them in to important games with no match sharpness.

- using Thomas, then describing our LBs (just him) as not good enough all while ignoring we could play Castagne left back and Amartey, Albrighton or someone else right back.

- Baffling articulation of injuries so that no one ever knows whats going on.

- erosion of core lcfc traits. Pace, Power, and defensive organisation to resemble a sort of quasi late wenger era arsenal with no spine, spirit or plan b.

- clear fall out in close season, but not enough courage to leave. 

- bizarre 'whispering bollocks' pre and post match approach to press conferences, totally uninspiring and not attractive to prospective players.

- describing our issue as stature and physicality and then not doing anyything about it. 

 

Well past time to go.

 

Spot on summary of the conman

[Nick]

22 minutes ago, tetly said:

If we get hammered tonight he should get the sack. We are in need of fresh ideas coaching and the mentality needs to change. 

Ah we are back here again.

 

Let's all be Mathew Hopkins.

 

 

[Matt]

MARTIN KEOWN warned Brendan Rodgers to put his ego to one side during Leicester's 3-0 defeat to Newcastle.

 

The Foxes were brushed aside by a rampant Newcastle as goals from Chris Wood, Miguel Almiron and Joelinton put Toon 3-0 up at half-time.

 

At the break Keown, appearing as a pundit on the Amazon Goals show, told Rodgers to hold his hands up and take responsibility for the dire first half.

 

Keown said: "He strikes me as a man with a huge ego and he won't want Eddie Howe to get one over on him.

 

"He would have seen this as a really big opportunity to start properly and to be fair Newcastle have just controlled proceedings.

 

"I look at Brendan, and Brendan will take this personally. He doesn't need to.

 

"It doesn't need to be about Brendan at half-time and I'd be telling him if I was a member of staff 'we've got this wrong, collectively, you need to stand up here. It's not just about the players it's about us. It's not an us and them situation' - which it probably will be come half-time because Brendan will be infuriated by what he's seen.

 

"But they've got to find a way to get out of this now and I think they do that by being collective, put the basics right and Newcastle are showing them that."

 

Rodgers' half-time instructions did stem the flow of goals but Leicester failed to find a way back into the match.

 

The 49-year-old has overseen a disappointing campaign at the King Power stadium and risked being sacked a few months ago.

 

The Foxes were bottom of the league after seven games and Rodgers took responsibility for their struggles.

 

He thanked the owners for their continued show of faith but accepted he needed to perform better.

 

He said: "Whatever happens I’ll have a huge amount of respect for them [the owners] because they’ve given me great support.

 

“They’ve given me brilliant support. Whatever happens to me at Leicester, whether I stay and fight on, I’ll always respect them.

 

“I come in every day and do my work. I totally understand the frustration of supporters. I can’t hide from that. It’s my responsibility."

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I mean i'm no fan of Keown but atleast it's a pundit in the media seeing what we see.

 

Edited 30 December 2022 by Matt

[filbertway]

He can have all the respect he wants. I have 0 respect for the man and the people that have allowed him to dismantle the fantastic ground laid out by Puel and Macia.

 

Not quite Peter Taylor levels but similar in that he will be leaving the club with a weaker squad and in financial trouble.

[Nick]

The level of hate on here is just ridiculous 

[filbertway]

12 minutes ago, Nick said:

The level of hate on here is just ridiculous 

I remember Puel getting it much worse. People crying because he had the balls to get rid of the players at the right time and actually bring in class replacements that improved us.

[st albans fox]

1 hour ago, tetly said:

If we get hammered tonight he should get the sack. We are in need of fresh ideas coaching and the mentality needs to change. 

A big loss at anfield shouldn’t bring the axe .  A failure to beat Fulham next Tuesday however ………….

[Matt]

1 minute ago, st albans fox said:

A big loss at anfield shouldn’t bring the axe .  

You're right.

 

Should have gone months ago.

[Nick]

19 minutes ago, filbertway said:

I remember Puel getting it much worse. People crying because he had the balls to get rid of the players at the right time and actually bring in class replacements that improved us.

I hated Puel - The football was toothless boring rubbish and he was a terrible man manager. Brendan at least has delivered during his tenure.

[Tommy Fresh]

1 minute ago, Nick said:

I hated Puel - The football was toothless boring rubbish and he was a terrible man manager. Brendan at least has delivered during his tenure.

Let's be honest though the work Puel did enabled Rodgers to succeed. No way had Rodgers came in at the time Puel did he'd of gone on to do what he has done for us. Puel clearly had an objective to overhaul the squad and he did just that and did it very well, he treated some players badly like King etc which is what makes him a tit in my eyes more than the football.

[Ric Flair]

19 minutes ago, Tommy Fresh said:

Let's be honest though the work Puel did enabled Rodgers to succeed. No way had Rodgers came in at the time Puel did he'd of gone on to do what he has done for us. Puel clearly had an objective to overhaul the squad and he did just that and did it very well, he treated some players badly like King etc which is what makes him a tit in my eyes more than the football.

EDUARDO MACIA

[JimmyC74]

Harsh reality of football is that you are judged on your recent record and BR’s has been indifferent. And unlike previous seasons we haven’t so far been able to turnover one of the Big 6.

 

He has had a number of mis-steps and the real question is can he re-build the team and push on in the second half of the season. 

 

knowing Youri and possibly Madders could be gone in the Summer he needs a good window, get a settled side and winning formation / winning mentality quickly and push for the European places.
 

Tinkering now with the squad ain’t enough.

[lifted*fox]

57 minutes ago, Nick said:

The level of hate on here is just ridiculous 

 

fickle guys

 

went dead quite for the couple of months we stuck some decent results together

 

but FT got it's xmas wish and the loss on boxing day gave everyone a reason to fire up the hate machine again 

 

'support' pshh.

 

i get it, we get some pathetic results under rodgers, but that's football. every team in the league bar one or two get some pathetic results.

 

be disappointed by all means but some of the posts on here verge on obsessive hatred and it's sad lol, go outside and touch grass ffs. 

[Tommy Fresh]

3 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

EDUARDO MACIA

Still needs someone to be the face of it and work with him ultimately

[Nick]

18 minutes ago, Tommy Fresh said:

Let's be honest though the work Puel did enabled Rodgers to succeed. No way had Rodgers came in at the time Puel did he'd of gone on to do what he has done for us. Puel clearly had an objective to overhaul the squad and he did just that and did it very well, he treated some players badly like King etc which is what makes him a tit in my eyes more than the football.

If we are talking 'in all honesty', I think if the helicopter hadn't gone down he'd have been sacked after the 0-0 with West Ham. I didn't rate him at all and never bought in to the transition argument being honest. 

 

What I will say is that my passion for Puel going was probably as great as the hate many of the posters in this thread have for Rodgers... it's just that my hate was more rational in my mind... but I would say that, right!

[Ric Flair]

10 minutes ago, Tommy Fresh said:

Still needs someone to be the face of it and work with him ultimately

Puel was hideous, its absolutely fascinating how time can put a nostalgic tint on a period of unpleasantness. 

 

Rodgers has a very poor track record in the transfer market and has worked with some appalling head of recruitment's but as a coach he is light years ahead of Claude Puel. 

 

Rodgers has outstayed his welcome here though and due to the power he's been given here will now leave the club in a worse state than he found it as the under performance under Puel was easier to fix than it will for the next man as financially the club have shit the bed.

 

 

[coolhandfox]

Imagine if Brendan was Moyes, spent 180m this summer, he would have been burned alive. 

 

Moyes spent 70m last summer, 54m the summer before, that's 300m (230m net spend), only 6th, 7th and a 16th places a Qtr final and Euro semi to show for it.

 

Rodgers has spent 216m (61M net spend) has 5th, 5th, 8th, FA Cup win, Community Shield win, Semi Finals x 2 (Euro 21/22 and League Cup 19/20) Otr Final x 2 (FA cup 19/20 and League Cup (21/22).

 

He time is more then likely up, but the the hate is over the top.

 

 

Edited 30 December 2022 by coolhandfox

[coolhandfox]

14 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Puel was hideous, its absolutely fascinating how time can put a nostalgic tint on a period of unpleasantness. 

 

Rodgers has a very poor track record in the transfer market and has worked with some appalling head of recruitment's but as a coach he is light years ahead of Claude Puel. 

 

Rodgers has outstayed his welcome here though and due to the power he's been given here will now leave the club in a worse state than he found it as the under performance under Puel was easier to fix than it will for the next man as financially the club have shit the bed.

 

 

I think the club is to blame as much as Rodgers, they gave him power over thing he isn't very good at.

 

The should have keep him out of recruitment and left him to just coach.

[cruzFOX]

Feels like We are stuck between a rock and hard place with BR. I’m nervous with him at the helm for the rest of the season but I’m also frightened if the club get it wrong by sacking him and not getting the right replacement. Surely the club’s problems are bigger than just the manager?

everything seems stale and out of sync.

it’s strumming along but how long can we keep it up? Win some lose some. Maybe we have to face facts as fans that the remainder of this season will be topsy turvy and we just might survive relegation!

[coolhandfox]

2 minutes ago, cruzFOX said:

Feels like We are stuck between a rock and hard place with BR. I’m nervous with him at the helm for the rest of the season but I’m also frightened if the club get it wrong by sacking him and not getting the right replacement. Surely the club’s problems are bigger than just the manager?

everything seems stale and out of sync.

it’s strumming along but how long can we keep it up? Win some lose some. Maybe we have to face facts as fans that the remainder of this season will be topsy turvy and we just might survive relegation!

We need around 7 wins from 22 games to say up if we can't do that we want shooting.

[SkidsFox]

2 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

I think the club is to blame as much as Rodgers, they gave him power over thing he isn't very good at.

 

The should have keep him out of recruitment and left him to just coach.

I agree that he can sometimes do well on the coaching side. But his biggest weakness is his tendency to sideline players. He has a habit of having unfavourites -  players he won't pick even when the team is struggling. Soy, Perez, Kel, Mendy, Praet have all had spells where you know they won't be picked.